Vassilis Spanoulis Thread

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Name one, and we'll compare Spanoulis' stats to him..we'll see who's fit to shine whose shoes.

You are just pathetic. Spanoulis is like 20 times better than Calderon and I am completely serious.

[Spursfan092120]

lmfao this is ridiculous. Some of these players you list are not fit to shine shoes of Spanoulis.

You know at Olympics in TV it was Doug Collins that says how great Spanoulis is and then say that coaches of Team USA say he is best player that Team USA faces in whole Olympics. Of course you know better than all of them.

You are an absolute idiot. You have GOT to quit making up. I watched every damn US game. Collins never said that. Not even close. Manu Ginobili, Dirk Nowitzki, Chris Kaman, Rudy Fernandez, Luis Scola, Andres Nocioni, Carlos Delfino, Pao Gasol, Yao Ming..I could go on and on..all are MUCH better players than Spanoulis. Please...stop..you're making yourself look like an idiot. Actually, you know what? Don't stop...we're all rather enjoying it.

[Spursfan092120]

You are just pathetic. Spanoulis is like 20 times better than Calderon and I am completely serious.

Calderon averages 13 points and 9 assists per game in the NBA...Spanoulis? Once again...2.7 points and .8 assists. Next?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You are an absolute idiot. You have GOT to quit making up. I watched every damn US game. Collins never said that. Not even close. Manu Ginobili, Dirk Nowitzki, Chris Kaman, Rudy Fernandez, Luis Scola, Andres Nocioni, Carlos Delfino, Pao Gasol, Yao Ming..I could go on and on..all are MUCH better players than Spanoulis. Please...stop..you're making yourself look like an idiot. Actually, you know what? Don't stop...we're all rather enjoying it.

This is so funny it really is. I hope this is a joke.

Craziest one of all is Fernandez? This is unreal. Spanoulis has owned him just about every single time they have ever played each other. In fact to tell truth Spanoulis has owned Gasol just about every time Greece plays Spain.

Kaman, Delfino, Nocioni, Fernandez? Bunch of jokes compared to Spanoulis. Spanoulis is an elite, ELITE play maker. Do you not understand this?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Calderon averages 13 points and 9 assists per game in the NBA...Spanoulis? Once again...2.7 points and .8 assists. Next?

Calderon is a better 3 point shooter and free throw shooter than Spanoulis.

In every other part of game Spanoulis is better and not by a little bit but by a tremendous amount. Calderon is not even worthy of being put in the same discussion with Spanoulis.

Calderon is a piece of crap compared to the 18 year old kid Rubio. I can see you have a very extreme limit in your basketball knowledge. You remind me of most Rockets fans. Your lack of basketball knowledge is not disturbing it is actually amusing because it is beyond bad.

[Spursfan092120]

Calderon is a better 3 point shooter and free throw shooter than Spanoulis.

In every other part of game Spanoulis is better and not by a little bit but by a tremendous amount. Calderon is not even worthy of being put in the same discussion with Spanoulis.

Calderon is a piece of crap compared to the 18 year old kid Rubio. I can see you have a very extreme limit in your basketball knowledge. You remind me of most Rockets fans. Your lack of basketball knowledge is not disturbing it is actually amusing because it is beyond bad.

What the are you talking about? I'm not talking about Rubio. I agree Rubio has the ability to be better than Calderon. Whether he will, we'll find out. You can't just say because the guy is talented that he'll be great in the NBA. It just doesn't work that way. Ask Sam Bowie. Injuries happen. Sometimes your game doesn't transfer. And about my knowledge...I've told you my credentials before...I have no need to tell you again. I just dropped more NBA knowledge in the toilet with my supper than you'll ever have. And about Calderon...last time I checked, Calderon was starting with an NBA team while Spanoulis couldn't hack it on two teams. I would say, as of right now, Calderon is a of a lot better, and until you have stats to prove otherwise, consider yourself wrong.

[Spursfan092120]

This is so funny it really is. I hope this is a joke.

Craziest one of all is Fernandez? This is unreal. Spanoulis has owned him just about every single time they have ever played each other. In fact to tell truth Spanoulis has owned Gasol just about every time Greece plays Spain.

Kaman, Delfino, Nocioni, Fernandez? Bunch of jokes compared to Spanoulis. Spanoulis is an elite, ELITE play maker. Do you not understand this?

All NBA players...all are on NBA teams, and have good stats as NBA players, while Spanoulis couldn't make it...yeah..yeah, I'd say they're better.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

if you think Floperon is better than Spanoulis it is very simple you have never see either of them play ever.

[urunobili]

Wfc

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

What's really funny is that a lot of people here might have actually liked Spanoulis if it wasn't for KBP's mindless drivel. He's made everyone irrationally despise the poor lad, underrate him and insult him.

In fact Spanoulis is neither as good as KBP says, nor as bad as a lot of people here think, he just had a tough year in Houston and is a bit slow and unathletic, which is why he's better in Europe than in the NBA, much like Oberto.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

What's really funny is that a lot of people here might have actually liked Spanoulis if it wasn't for KBP's mindless drivel. He's made everyone irrationally despise the poor lad, underrate him and insult him.

In fact Spanoulis is neither as good as KBP says, nor as bad as a lot of people here think, he just had a tough year in Houston and is a bit slow and unathletic, which is why he's better in Europe than in the NBA, much like Oberto.

Spanoulis is not slow or unathletic. He is actually quite fast and athletic. And this is proven how he blows past any defender and finishes at the rim whenever he plays against Team USA.

[mathbzh]

This is so funny it really is. I hope this is a joke.

Craziest one of all is Fernandez? This is unreal. Spanoulis has owned him just about every single time they have ever played each other. In fact to tell truth Spanoulis has owned Gasol just about every time Greece plays Spain.

First, I would like you to explain me how a guard can own Gasol.
Then, I checked the last games between Greece and Spain.

2004 Olympics: no game Greece-Spain
2005: Greece is European champion but they didn't play against Spain.
2006: World Championship Finals
Spain 70 - 47 Greece
Spanoulis 4 pts (1/10) 2ast

Gasol didn't play, Fernandez barely play... but this is not exactly "ownage".

2007: Euro series
Spain 76 - 58 Greece
Spanoulis 8 pts (3/10) 2ast

Fernandez 20 pts (6/9) 2ast
Gasol 15 pts (5/8) 5 rbds 5ast

Euro semi finals
Spain 82 - 77 Greece
Great game from Spanoulis 24 pts (10/14) / 5ast

Fernandez played only 12 minutes for 2 pts (0/1) 1 ast.
But Gasol had 23 pts (7/11) 6 rbds 1 ast

2008 Olympics:
Spain 81 - 66 Greece
A good game for Spanoulis 15 pts (6/11) 1 ast in 26 minutes

But also for Fernandez 16 pts (5/9) 1 ast in 22 minutes
And not a bad one for Gasol 11 pts (4/8) 7 rebounds in only 20 minutes.


So:
4 games, 4 win for Spain (average: Spain 77 - 62 Greece)
Only one game were he is really better than Fernandez (not Gasol).


But you are right

Spanoulis has owned him (Fernandez) just about every single time they have ever played each other. In fact to tell truth Spanoulis has owned Gasol just about every time Greece plays Spain.

Edit:

And I think Spanoulis is really good.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

First, I would like you to explain me how a guard can own Gasol.
Then, I checked the last games between Greece and Spain.

2004 Olympics: no game Greece-Spain
2005: Greece is European champion but they didn't play against Spain.
2006: World Championship Finals
Spain 70 - 47 Greece
Spanoulis 4 pts (1/10) 2ast

Gasol didn't play, Fernandez barely play... but this is not exactly "ownage".

2007: Euro series
Spain 76 - 58 Greece
Spanoulis 8 pts (3/10) 2ast

Fernandez 20 pts (6/9) 2ast
Gasol 15 pts (5/8) 5 rbds 5ast

Euro semi finals
Spain 82 - 77 Greece
Great game from Spanoulis 24 pts (10/14) / 5ast

Fernandez played only 12 minutes for 2 pts (0/1) 1 ast.
But Gasol had 23 pts (7/11) 6 rbds 1 ast

2008 Olympics:
Spain 81 - 66 Greece
A good game for Spanoulis 15 pts (6/11) 1 ast in 26 minutes

But also for Fernandez 16 pts (5/9) 1 ast in 22 minutes
And not a bad one for Gasol 11 pts (4/8) 7 rebounds in only 20 minutes.


So:
4 games, 4 win for Spain (average: Spain 77 - 62 Greece)
Only one game were he is really better than Fernandez (not Gasol).


But you are right




Edit:

And I think Spanoulis is really good.

In 2006 finals Spanoulis was awful .The whole Greek team was awful except Papaloukas. I will not argue that. They had just beat USA and went out and got drunk as they drunk all night and never slept and stayed up all night. And with Gasol injury they just played easy.

So I am not talk about that game everyone knows what a failure and stupid thing they did after the beat USA and acted like that was all that mattered. Papaloukas was only player that did not get drunk and party whole night.

But in games since then..........

Spanoulis is by far best player on court when two teams play. And if stats show this or not doesn't even matter to me. The only guard Spain has that has even been close to Spanoulis when they play in last 2 years was Rubio. He was able to at least make it harder for Spanoulis to drive the ball. Of course when Rubio had the ball Spanoulis really played very good D on him. Still Spanoulis was outplaying Rubio very clearly, but for a 17 kid Rubio was impressive.

Spanoulis in each game in last 2 years honeslty made Navarro, Rudy, and Calderon look like jokes. Like scrubs. You should know that in the last game in Olympics you could hear Spain announcers praying "please God do not let Spanoulis get the ball. Every time he touches the ball he kills us he is one of best 4 or 5 guards in the whole world"

Never did they say anything like that when they play against Team USA. I do not think fans understand what Spanoulis can do. There is a few maybe in Greece but then it is only the ones that saw him in junior national team or when he was at Maroussi. Other Greeks don't know about him either. PAO fans do not have slight clue about what he can do.

I was able to see him play in person when he was in Maroussi and let me assure you he is in the very most elite of one on one players in the world. And his point guard skills is in the very highest you will ever see anywhere.

He is so much better than players like Rudy Fernandez and Jose Calderon that it is just ridiculous really how people say someone like that is better than him.

[Spursmania]

When do we sign him?

[Keepin' it real]

Va who-who Spa what-what?

[Spursfan092120]

When do we sign him?

lol..we already did. He made it a whole month here.

[Indazone]

I doubt if Vspan's feet actually made it to San Antonio. He had his Houston apt packed left so fast it would make one's head spin.

[mathbzh]

In 2006 finals Spanoulis was awful .

So in a 4 game data sample you just discard the one that bother you.

Spanoulis is by far best player on court when two teams play. And if stats show this or not doesn't even matter to me. ...
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Spanoulis in each game in last 2 years honeslty made Navarro, Rudy, and Calderon look like jokes. Like scrubs.

You know, my problem is not that you consider Spanoulis better than those players (in a FIBA game that may be true). My problem is that you just come and say something definitive as "Spanoulis owns them".
In 4 blowouts it is not easy to believe he owned someone.

in Olympics you could hear Spain announcers praying
"please God do not let Spanoulis get the ball. Every time he touches the ball he kills us he is one of best 4 or 5 guards in the whole world"

I don't know if it is true... but seriously I would not base my opinion on what annoucers say. They love to be dramatic... "we are up by 16 to start the 4th... but be carefull... Spanoulis is killing us... he is one of best 4 or 5 guards in the whole world

[mountainballer]

Spanoulis would be one of the best point guards in the NBA right now. He is by far and away the top talent in Europe.

quote with picture on!

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

So in a 4 game data sample you just discard the one that bother you.



You know, my problem is not that you consider Spanoulis better than those players (in a FIBA game that may be true). My problem is that you just come and say something definitive as "Spanoulis owns them".
In 4 blowouts it is not easy to believe he owned someone.



I don't know if it is true... but seriously I would not base my opinion on what annoucers say. They love to be dramatic... "we are up by 16 to start the 4th... but be carefull... Spanoulis is killing us... he is one of best 4 or 5 guards in the whole world

Coach Obradovic is one of best coaches in the world. Popovich has asked him how can he get better as a coach and for help and advice.

He is one of the best coaches that has ever lived. He has coached players like Dimitris Diamantidis, Dejan Bodiroga, Peja Danilovic, Vlade Divac, Arvydas Sabonis, Alberto Herreras, Zoran Savic, Sasha Dordevic, Zeljko Rebraca, Fragiksos Alvertis, Zarko Paspalj, Ferran Martinez, Jordi Villacampa, Denis Marconato, Jaka Lakovic, Saras Jasikevicius, Darryl Middleton, Johnny Rogers, Antonis Fotsis, Lazo Papadopoulos, Ibrahim Kutluay, Mike Batiste, Nikola Pekovic, Nikos Hatzivrettas, Damir Mulamerovic, Dejan Tomasevic, Sani Becirovic, Dimos Dikoudis, Ramunas Siskauskas, Milos Vujanic, Drew Nicholas

All these players at one time or another considered among the best Euroleague players. And Obradovic said that Spanoulis is the most talented player he has ever coached. Some of those players he has coached is in the list of best European players that ever lived.

[mogrovejo]

In another message board (euro basketball oriented), more than half of KBP posts are Spanoulis hagiographies. It's absolutely amazing. Spanoulis problem is that he's too selfish and he wasn't able to translate his game to the NBA: in Europe he can get everywhere he wants in the floor due to his superior athleticism and ballhandling, in the NBA he was just another guy in terms of quickness and unable to shoot.

Anyway, where's the Splitter thread? I have bad news for Spurs fans: the local council of Vitoria decided to give a $8 millions bailout to Splitter's club. That will make up for the financial struggles of their main sponsor.

[Indazone]

Don't see Splitter coming over anytime soon.

[superbigtime]

News flash: No one gives a about obscure, marginal Greek players who aren't in the league and don't wish to be. Piss off.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

In another message board (euro basketball oriented), more than half of KBP posts are Spanoulis hagiographies. It's absolutely amazing. Spanoulis problem is that he's too selfish and he wasn't able to translate his game to the NBA: in Europe he can get everywhere he wants in the floor due to his superior athleticism and ballhandling, in the NBA he was just another guy in terms of quickness and unable to shoot.

Spanoulis is not perfect he has some issues as a player like all players in history well maybe prime Jordan was perfect but other than him. Anyway, Spanoulis is much better than most NBA point guards. It really does not matter if NBA fans and their arrogance cannot figure it out.

You know in Panathinaikos fans they call Spanoulis "Mistake Machine" and he is probably one of the most hated players even in PAO. It is because of his skills and his ability.

If there is a player in the world as hated as Kobe it is Spanoulis. Some even call him "Euro Kobe". There are some that recognize such talent for what it is then some who insanely hate such players and only call them "selfish" "ball hogs" and things like this. It is just difference between stupid fans and smart ones. Just like stupid coaches like Van Gundy who can only use robots or smart coaches like Jackson who understand how to control such players.

[ambchang]

The most amusing thing is that KBP's English gets better when he responds quickly.