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A pyrrus victory that is
I guess I didn't explain myself real well. The war in the first place wasn't a good idea. I'm all for getting rid of Saddam but we went about that in the wrong way in that we should have been worrying about Iraq's citizens and their perception of the United States.
You like to throw around the "hearts and mind" stuff and as much as I hate that phrase, it should have applied before we went in, and hopefully it's applied now because that's the only way we "win".
A pyrrus victory that is
How do you figure?
There is some hope yet.
Keep in mind that our "war on terror" is waaay broader than Iraq.
Honestly, I tend to think of the whole thing as being something of a Low Level Conflict on a global scale. The tactics/strategies involved that won the surge are the same ones that need to be applied globally.
Our real struggle with al Qaeda is one of ideas more than killing or weapons. Killing some of the murderous s in Al Qaeda while necessary, is not sufficient to defeat them. Just as killing some insurgents was necessary in Iraq, but not sufficient.
We are fighting the idea that we are evil and "out to get" Islam. This is the core ideology of Al Qaeda.
To defeat this ideology, we MUST do things that combat the idea that we are evil.
This would include a whole range of things that a lot of people in the US will not like, such as increased foreign direct aid.
We need to get out into the muslim world, and build schools, medical clinics, and do a host of other similar things that are as closely associated as possible with either the US government or our people directly, such as giving money to certain charities or similar.
It is waay more complicated than this, of course, but that is a beginning.
Bush's 'folly' is ending in victory
By Jeff Jacoby Globe Columnist / March 25, 2009
'MARKETS without bombs. Hummers without guns. Ice cream after dark. Busy streets without fear." So began Terry McCarthy's report from Iraq for ABC's World News Sunday on March 15, one of a series the network aired last week as the war in Iraq reached its sixth anniversary.
A nationwide poll of Iraqis reveals that "60 percent expect things to get better next year - almost three times as many as a year and a half ago," McCarthy continued. "Iraqis are slowly discovering they have a future. We flew south to Basra, where 94 percent say their lives are going well. Oil is plentiful here. So is money."
In another report two nights later, ABC's correspondent characterized the Iraqi capital as "a city reborn: speed, light, style - this is Baghdad today. Where car bombs have given way to car racing. Where a once-looted museum has been restored and reopened. And where young women who were forced to cover their heads can again wear the clothes that they like."
One such young woman is dental student Hiba al-Jassin, who fled Baghdad's horrific violence two years ago, but found the city transformed when she returned last fall. "I'm just optimistic," she told McCarthy. "I think we are on the right path."
ABC wasn't alone in conveying the latest glad tidings from Iraq.
"Iraq combat deaths at 6-year low," USA Today reported on its front page last Wednesday. The story noted that in the first two months of 2009, 15 US soldiers were killed in action - one-fourth the number killed in the same period a year ago, and one-tenth the 2007 toll. The reduction in deaths reflects the reduction in violence, which has plummeted by 90 percent since former President Bush ordered General David Petraeus to implement a new counterinsurgency strategy - the "surge" - in early 2007.
Even in northern Iraq, where al-Qaeda is still active, attacks are down by 70 percent.
In the wake of improved security have come political reconciliation and compromise. Iraq's democratic government continues to mature, with ethnic and religious loyalties beginning to yield to broader political concerns.
The Washington Post reports that the country's foremost Shiite politician, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, has formed an alliance with Saleh al-Mutlak, an outspoken Sunni leader. It is a development that suggests "the emergence of a new axis of power in Iraq centered on a strong central government and nationalism" - a dramatic change from the sectarian passions that fueled so much bloody agony in 2006 and 2007. In the recent provincial elections, writes the Post's Anthony Shadid, Maliki's party won major gains, with the prime minister "forgoing the slogans of his Islamist past for a platform of law and order." Despite his erstwhile reputation as a Shiite hard-liner, Maliki now echoes Mutlak's call for burying the hatchet with supporters of Saddam Hussein's overwhelmingly Sunni Baath Party.
Those elections were yet another blow to the conviction that cons utional democracy and Arab culture are incompatible. For the 440 seats to be filled, more than 14,000 candidates and some 400 political parties contended - a level of democratic compe ion that leaves American elections in the dust. A Jeffersonian republic of yeoman smallholders Iraq will never be. But over the past six years it has been transformed from one of the most brutal tyrannies on earth to an example of democratic pluralism in the heart of the Arab world.
For a long time the foes of both the Iraq war and the president who launched it insisted that none of this was possible - that the war was lost, that there was no military solution to the sectarian slaughter, that the surge would only make the violence worse. Victory was not an option, the critics declared; the only option was to par ion Iraq and get out. Time and again it was said that the war would forever be remembered as Bush's folly, if not indeed as the worst foreign policy mistake in US history.
Even now, with a stubbornness born of partisan hostility or political ideology, there are those who cannot bring themselves to utter the words "victory" and "Iraq" in the same sentence. But six years after the war began, it is ending in victory. As in every war, the price of that victory was higher than we would have wished. The price of defeat would have been far higher.
Per conservative logic, if that poll happened during Obama's term, then he is directly responsible for the uptick in Iraqi confidence.
Also, I thought I remembered that name. Jeff Jacoby is a hack. I put him right up there with Thomas Sowell. :p
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jacoby_(columnist)
Kirkuk.
Obama consults me for everything! Just look at the economy!
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