Big deal. The Chinese guards suck ass.
Big deal. The Chinese guards suck ass.
so in your conclusion, even though USA commentator could not stop talking about himm, he is nothing special?
He's surrounded by stars.
No he is not. This is stupid comparison. He is not going to be scoring 70 points in games. He is not type of player to try domination just with scoring.
You can forget spamlongII posting 87 threads slurping off Ricky Rubio.
I was referring to his handles and showmanship.
unless Rubio is somehow drafted by blazers
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It will be interesting to see how he can get his shot off in the NBA.
He cannot get his jump shot off in the Euroleague so he cannot in the NBA either even though NBA has weaker defense in perimeter. Rubio must change everything about his shot. He have no elevation on his shot, horrible form, terrible release, it is a set shot and his release is one of slowest I have ever see at pro levels.
But he is 18 so this is really no surprise. He will have to work on his jump shot even to become good player in Euroleague or NBA. He can get his shot by driving in NBA any time but of course he will also be blocked some like he is even in ACB level because he plays below rim.
None of this really matters because he can pass the ball and make offense happen. He is like Kidd he does not need to shoot so much. But also like Kidd in half court teams will just leave him open all the time. But I think though when he is open he would be more effective than Kidd was. Maybe like Kidd is now where he can at least make some shots when left wide open.
Anyway Rubio is for sure better than Rudy and Floperon.
He is not in same level at this time as the better point guards in Euroleague like Dimitris Diamantidis, Theo Papaloukas, JC Navarro, Vassilis Spanoulis, Pablo Prigioni, Terrell McIntyre, Nikos Zisis and some of the guards like that but he is already better I think than ones like JR Holden, Jaka Lakovic, Carlos Arroyo, Omar Cook, Sarunas Jasikevicius, Raul Lopez, Carlos Cabezas, Pepe Sanchez, Aaron Miles, Earl Calloway, Travis Best, Mantas Kalnietis, Sergio LLull, Jannero Pargo, Ibby Jaaber, Brandon Jennings, Milos Vujanic, Davor Kus, Morris Finley, Dee Brown, Demond Mallett and the others.
So at 18 he is already better than some good Euroleague points guards and some that have played in the NBA before. It is only very best Euroleague point guards that is better than him. But still I think he is already better than Rudy Fernandez and Jose Calderon.
Teodosic and Rubio is a little harder. I am not sure what to make of Teodosic. Teodosic should really be a two guard in defense because he cannot guard one because of speed I think. And he is not so big for two position a bit small for this spot. Is hard to say he should maybe be consider better than he is at his age but then again I think talent is there. Teodosic has potential to be as good as Rubio or even better probably but he seems not to use his ability at all so he is maybe a lost cause.
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Hey Kill Bill what do you think of Sergio Llull out of Real Madrid. You think he looks like a good triangle PG to you?
I am not sure really. But he is definitely a scoring and shooting guard not a passing one. And he has good size for point position. Yes probably he is more type of "point guard" that Phil Jackson likes. Might be a good fit in this type of offense.
I agree and his defense is actually pretty good for a youngster. I think he'd be a great fit on the Lakers. Hope he stays on the board till when the Lakers pick.
Now that I think of him he actually is maybe like a more athletic and weaker version of Fisher. Style is kind of similar.
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Hopefully he can finish better than him at the rim. As of right now he does need to hit the weight room, but he's still young so it's understandable. And yeah they're style is a little similar but Llull is much more athletic, his shot not as dependent, but a better defensive player. And he can pass even though he gives the ball up a lot in the half court set. Like Fish giving the ball up to Kobe. They are kinda similar. And LLull has nice height for a PG.
Yep this is pretty good assessment. But I don't think finishing around rim he would be any better than Fisher although maybe it would be because he is taller and more athletic.
Yeah I noticed he did have a little problem with that. Hard to say now because of his age and how skinny he looks. If he hits the weight room it will help him absorb contact better. He has a problem taking contact and finishing. Either way he would be a real nice pickup at the end of the first round. He also seems to have that big shot mentality like Fisher does as well.
No way he's better than Rudy. Not now anyway. Rudy can jump and he can hit the 3-ball.
Please enough already. Rudy is a nice player to have on your team and he can be a role player in a top club. You know he the championship type role player or whatever. But he is NOTHING compared to Rubio.
Rudy is an average player in talent and his basketball skills are incomplete.
Yes I give you that he is a much more athletic and better shooter than Rubio that is definitely true. But believe me as overall players Rubio is way better. Overall offense Rubio is better for sure and in defense Rubio is so much better it is a joke to even compare them.
Believe me Rubio is easily better than Rudy is. Rudy is a role player in Blazers, he is a role player in Spanish national team and he would be a role player in any of the biggest Euroleague clubs.
Give Rubio some time and and he can be much more than that. He is also a role player in same scenarios now so it is closer in time now but still even now he is better.
Rubio is better now that Rudy and Calderon. Because as an overall player his offense is better and his defense is so much much better by a lot. So now Rubio is better than them and give him a few years and it won't even be close.
I think rubio is going to be a really good Pg in this league no doubt. hes got great playmaking and ball handling and is a pretty decent defender also.. hopefully it all translates over to the NBA fine.. probably going to take some time but i think its going to work out for him, I see him going 3rd.
Kill Bill pana, even though we have certain differences, i really want to give you credit for your motivation, knowledge of all these players and such a huge interest in basketball, and taking the time to write such big posts.
Gia mas!
Thanks. I have many years in training as a player and coach.
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