Who, outside of the Controllers, would support...

[LockBeard]

A committee approving or disapproving of YOU receiving a life saving/altering medical drug, procedure, etc regardless if you can afford out of pocket said drug, procedure, etc...?

[ChumpDumper]

Premature fear mongering thread.

[LockBeard]

Head in the sand reply.

[clambake]

healthcare insurers have been doing that forever.

[ChumpDumper]

Head in the sand response.

If it's in any legislation, let's see it.

[LockBeard]

If it's in any legislation, let's see it.

I'm just going on the models of other country's that America is foolishly trying to be like.

Chump, you should broden your horizons and educate yourself on what lil' mikey moore doesn't tell you.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm just going after the models of other country's that America is foolishly trying to be like.

Chump, you should broden your horizons and educate yourself on what lil' mikey moore doesn't tell you.

So there is no legislation.

Thanks.

Lockbeard, you should lie less.

[LockBeard]

The Government doesn't give a about you.

You are a number.

You will be a number.

You will just be another cost.

Happy Health caring America.

[LnGrrrR]

I'm just going on the models of other country's that America is foolishly trying to be like.

Evidence would be nice. Facts, figures, sources... you know.

[LockBeard]

Evidence would be nice. Facts, figures, sources... you know.

Talk to people outside of America.

[ChumpDumper]

The Government doesn't give a about you.

You are a number.

You will be a number.

You will just be another cost.

Happy Health caring America.

Replace "government" with "insurance company" and you have today's system.

[ChumpDumper]

Talk to people outside of America.

They are free to change their systems if they are so bad.

[Oh, Gee!!]

A committee approving or disapproving of YOU receiving a life saving/altering medical drug, procedure, etc if you cannot afford out of pocket said drug, procedure, etc...?

it happens

[LockBeard]

Listen. Chump, I understand how optimistic and confident one can get when their beloved Government whom they have idolized ever since becoming indoctrinated as a little boy promises them the "same health care as their elected officials".

That is no excuse to never question the hand that feeds you, my friend.

[ChumpDumper]

Listen. Chump, I understand how optimistic and confident one can get when their beloved Government whom they have idolized ever since becoming indoctrinated as a little boy promises them the "same health care as their elected officials".

That is no excuse to never question the hand that feeds you, my friend.

What is wrong with the health care our elected officials get?

Is their health care rationed like you are trying to say ours will be?

And whom should I be asking about their health care in other countries? The ones with a longer life expectancy than the US?

[ChumpDumper]

Listen. Chump, things are so awful in Canada that they live two years longer than Americans.

Take that!

[Extra Stout]

There once were coherent conservative proposals for how to do health care, for example, insurance pools for those who can't get good employer-based health care because they work for/own small businesses, are self-employed, work for companies that don't offer benefits, are unemployed, etc.

I don't see conservatives in 2009 making those cases. What I see are falsehoods and scaremongering.

There are two possibilities:
A) Most conservatives don't believe people will prefer their proposals if they communicate them straight, so they resort to falsehoods and scaremongering instead.
B) Most conservatives are no longer capable of making rational coherent arguments, since anti-intellectualism is now a party plank, so falsehoods and scaremongering are all they are capable of doing.

[clambake]

ouch

[baseline bum]

Is LockBeard Cool Hand's alter-ego troll?

[LnGrrrR]

Talk to people outside of America.

I did. They disagreed with you. I win.

[micca]

There once were coherent conservative proposals for how to do health care, for example, insurance pools for those who can't get good employer-based health care because they work for/own small businesses, are self-employed, work for companies that don't offer benefits, are unemployed, etc.

I don't see conservatives in 2009 making those cases. What I see are falsehoods and scaremongering.

There are two possibilities:
A) Most conservatives don't believe people will prefer their proposals if they communicate them straight, so they resort to falsehoods and scaremongering instead.
B) Most conservatives are no longer capable of making rational coherent arguments, since anti-intellectualism is now a party plank, so falsehoods and scaremongering are all they are capable of doing.

It sounds as if your saying that people that don't share your political views aren't as intelligent as you and other non conservatives.

[PixelPusher]

"non-conservative"

...interesting choice of words.

[ChumpDumper]

It sounds as if your saying that people that don't share your political views aren't as intelligent as you and other non conservatives.

To be fair, pretty much nobody is as intelligent as ES.

Don't hate.

[Oh, Gee!!]

To be fair, pretty much nobody is as intelligent as ES.

I don't know. Cosmic Cowboy might be smarter.

[Extra Stout]

It sounds as if your saying that people that don't share your political views aren't as intelligent as you and other non conservatives.

My frustration is not that conservatives today are stupid; my frustration is that too many see stupidity as a virtue.