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I loved Sean as a player, but sometimes he just makes me cringe when he's broadcasting the games with Land. Gotta love the enthusiasm they bring, but I usually just turn the TV sound down and listen to Bill Schoening make the call on WOAI.
who thinks we have the best broadcat team with bill land and sean elliott?
i love those two!
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I loved Sean as a player, but sometimes he just makes me cringe when he's broadcasting the games with Land. Gotta love the enthusiasm they bring, but I usually just turn the TV sound down and listen to Bill Schoening make the call on WOAI.
Sean is funny but too much homerism is annoying.
He pisses me off at times cause he tends to say a game is over when its far from over.
I think Elliott comes off like a tool.
I love those guys... I love the homer too
I used to think Stockton and Sean couldn't be topped, but I've learned to love Bill Land more, he loves the Spurs more.
Why wouldn't you want homerism? I don't yell out during games "Great flop Manu!" "Nice defense Kobe!" "Timmy obviously fouled Dirk" I say "Manu draws the charge", "Mason needs more lift on that shot" and "That was the most re ed call I've seen all night."
Now after the game, we can be nice and objective. Theres few things worse than an exclusive national broadcast game where I have to hear the announcers give the Spurs few props. The games where they talk about something totally un-related to basketball when we bring it up the floor but when the Celtics do something its '"OHHHHH KEVIN GARNET WITH THE <SUPERFLOROUS ADJECTIVE> SLAM DUNK!!!!!".
I'll take Bill and Sean.
Elliott and Land are my favorite combination of all-time. It used to be Barnett and Dietrick but Elliott and Land are now tops.
Yes, Elliott is a homer and he's obviously not the most well prepared color commentator of all-time but he's still damn good. He's basically a part of the coaching staff so his knowledge is firsthand. He's friends with most of the players. He knows the game and he's played recently enough to know exactly what the players are going through and what Pop is thinking. And while he's a homer, he's also constantly riding Duncan to make faster decisions, for Parker to control the offense more, etc. It's not like he doesn't give his fair share of criticism.
Land is goofy but he has good chemistry with Elliott. And both of them obviously care about whether or not the Spurs win. A lot of people in the business not only don't care, they end up resenting the teams they cover. Elliott and Land are two of the bigger Spurs fans on the planet. Elliott might be the biggest. He lives and dies with the team.
If you can't take Elliott's homerism and overconfidence (the same trait he had as a player) with everything else he brings to the table, you must not be much of a Spurs fan. Elliott flows with pertinent Spurs knowledge throughout his broadcasts.
/rant
funny, but that is how i usually watch the games. its why i cant stand to watch spurs games with random spurs fans. it becomes a bit grating watching a spurs player take 5 step, get called for the travel, and then have to listen to 2 minutes of random spurs fan ranting about how the refs are blind/stupid/biased.
most times, id rather watch a game with someone who is a legit/knowledgeable basketball fan, who may or may not be a spurs fan (being a spurs fan would just be a bonus).
Elliott and Land are my favorite combination of all-time. It used to be Barnett and Dietrick but Elliott and Land are now tops.
Yes, Elliott is a homer and he's obviously not the most well prepared color commentator of all-time but he's still damn good. He's basically a part of the coaching staff so his knowledge is firsthand. He's friends with most of the players. He knows the game and he's played recently enough to know exactly what the players are going through and what Pop is thinking. And while he's a homer, he's also constantly riding Duncan to make faster decisions, for Parker to control the offense more, etc. It's not like he doesn't give his fair share of criticism.
Land is goofy but he has good chemistry with Elliott. And both of them obviously care about whether or not the Spurs win. A lot of people in the business not only don't care, they end up resenting the teams they cover. Elliott and Land are two of the bigger Spurs fans on the planet. Elliott might be the biggest. He lives and dies with the team.
If you can't take Elliott's homerism and overconfidence (the same trait he had as a player) with everything else he brings to the table, you must not be much of a Spurs fan. Elliott flows with pertinent Spurs knowledge throughout his broadcasts.
/rant
Word...
Oh mama!
Damn right.
Elliott and Land are my favorite combination of all-time. It used to be Barnett and Dietrick but Elliott and Land are now tops.
Yes, Elliott is a homer and he's obviously not the most well prepared color commentator of all-time but he's still damn good. He's basically a part of the coaching staff so his knowledge is firsthand. He's friends with most of the players. He knows the game and he's played recently enough to know exactly what the players are going through and what Pop is thinking. And while he's a homer, he's also constantly riding Duncan to make faster decisions, for Parker to control the offense more, etc. It's not like he doesn't give his fair share of criticism.
Land is goofy but he has good chemistry with Elliott. And both of them obviously care about whether or not the Spurs win. A lot of people in the business not only don't care, they end up resenting the teams they cover. Elliott and Land are two of the bigger Spurs fans on the planet. Elliott might be the biggest. He lives and dies with the team.
If you can't take Elliott's homerism and overconfidence (the same trait he had as a player) with everything else he brings to the table, you must not be much of a Spurs fan. Elliott flows with pertinent Spurs knowledge throughout his broadcasts.
/rant
I love Sean Elliott, homer glasses and all.
Bill Land is a decent analyst and commentator, but I hate how the guy talks like my grampa sometimes.
"Shucks..."
"Oh mama!"
"Golly, Sean!"
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Oh Mama!!
Nothing gets me more pumped.
Great broadcast team, or Greatest broadcast team? Thats how I would of worded the question.
I can dig the homerism but not too much of it. And Sean has that tendency to over do it. Also who can forget his infamous "Its Over" rant against the Celtics last year and we lost the game...he still does that at times and it does get me upset. Thats because im a hardCore Spurs fan
I love Bill and Sean. Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_ is a huge homer and Land is a really nerdy white guy, but like Timvp said, they have great chemistry and truly care about the Spurs.
Oh MAMA!!!!
did anyone catch this during the last game: while Tony was going off in the fourth, Sean was commenting on Tony's dramatic improvement from when he first came into the league, and Tony hit something like 2 or three shots in a row and Bill yells out, "Keep talking Sean and Tony'll keep hitting em!"
Sean makes Spurs loosing more bearable. He's a homer yes, but the right kind. More power to both guys
they are the best.
I was waiting for it.
People here know that I absolutely can not stand Bill Land.
To those who think they are the best ever- how much do you watch other teams' telecasts? (not you LJ)
As to homerism, I prefer objective analysis and credit where credit is due over homer broadcasts.
That is how I watch games, too, and I can not stand fans who whine and complain about every call. If a guy makes a great play, no matter whom he is playing for, I will admit it and appreciate it. Then again, I admit that I am a basetball fan, then a player fan, and then a team fan.
yeah.
Elliott and Land are my favorite combination of all-time. It used to be Barnett and Dietrick but Elliott and Land are now tops.
Yes, Elliott is a homer and he's obviously not the most well prepared color commentator of all-time but he's still damn good. He's basically a part of the coaching staff so his knowledge is firsthand. He's friends with most of the players. He knows the game and he's played recently enough to know exactly what the players are going through and what Pop is thinking. And while he's a homer, he's also constantly riding Duncan to make faster decisions, for Parker to control the offense more, etc. It's not like he doesn't give his fair share of criticism.
Land is goofy but he has good chemistry with Elliott. And both of them obviously care about whether or not the Spurs win. A lot of people in the business not only don't care, they end up resenting the teams they cover. Elliott and Land are two of the bigger Spurs fans on the planet. Elliott might be the biggest. He lives and dies with the team.
If you can't take Elliott's homerism and overconfidence (the same trait he had as a player) with everything else he brings to the table, you must not be much of a Spurs fan. Elliott flows with pertinent Spurs knowledge throughout his broadcasts.
/rant
I think Bill and Sean are great. I could see how non-Spurs fans could be annoyed by their homerism (particularly Sean's), but as a Spurs fan I thoroughly enjoy them.
As for the sub-conversation going on here, I try to watch the game objectively. If Timmy takes 4 steps and they call a travel on him, I don't get upset with the refs at all (unless they're not calling it both ways). The major difference is if Kevin Garnett gets tapped by Duncan and they call the ticky-tack foul, I'll yell at the refs ("What in the world are you looking at??!"). If the foul happens the other way around and goes in the Spurs favor, I'm more likely to calmly turn to the person I'm sitting next to and say, "I'm not too sure about that call." (Shrug and smile.)
i love them. i don't understand the "too much homerism" argument. they like YOUR team, they're cheering for YOUR team.
Elliott has always been overconfident. That's part of what made him such a good player. In 1995 when the Spurs fell down 0-2 against the Rockets, he said that they'd go win both in Houston. And they did. Even in 2001, he said the Spurs still had a good chance to climb out of the 0-3 hole against the Lakers.I can dig the homerism but not too much of it. And Sean has that tendency to over do it. Also who can forget his infamous "Its Over" rant against the Celtics last year and we lost the game...he still does that at times and it does get me upset. Thats because im a hardCore Spurs fan
And last time I checked, a color commentator doesn't control how a team plays on the court. Spurs fans melting down after that Celtics game was one of the dumbest Spurs fans meltdowns of all time .... and that's saying something.
I love Sean too much as a person/ex-player to see him make a fool of himself in public on a regular basis. That, in a nuts , is my only gripe with him as a color commentator. It's actually the complete opposite of what our franchise has been about since Pop took the helm.
He runs his mouth when we're up 10-12 points in the 1st quarter, and I'm already thinking to myself...
He's still not at Heinsohn level blind homerism yet, but he can get damn close at times.
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