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    The Spurs had the first Jumbotron!

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    Well, since the ENTIRE state started out as Mexico, this doesn't seem like too much of a stretch, or a problem, to me.
    Hey people of Mexican descent have just as much right to be Texan as people who are white.

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    When I lived on the East Coast, all I wanted was Texas-themed stuff People couldn't believe how much crap there is in the shape of the state. I personally want one of those waffle irons in the Texas shape.

    My parents have one of those dinner bells (think: one of those triangles where you yell "come and get it"), in the shape of Texas. Awesome.

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    Hey people of Mexican descent have just as much right to be Texan as people who are white.
    That was kinda my point.

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    It's also home to Jasper, where they drag black men from a pick-up truck until they die.

    Texas is Mexican food like nowhere else, not even Mexico.
    That's because the Mexican food in Texas sucks ass.

    Texas is world-class universities in College Station and Austin.
    What, no love for The University Of Texas at San Antonio (a.k.a. UTSA-Austin)?

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    Maine reminds me of all the ed up Stephen King novels I was reading 13 years ago.
    I want to go to Bangor, Maine only because of his stories.

    I wish Castle Rock was a real city.

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    That was kinda my point.
    DOH! Sorry, I didn't mean to reply to your post, I meant to reply to sommerset's post. You actually made the same point.

    On a side note, my uncle moved to Concord, MA about 15 years ago and he is well known for having big BIG 4th of July parties. Well he wanted to continue the tradition up there, and when he started to go shopping for it . . . . NO BRISKET!! He said he spent a couple hours on the phone calling stores and asking them about it, many didn't even know what it was. Luckily my grandfather was flying up there and he went on base and got a ton of it. Then my uncle let my grandfather cook it (uncle makes it good, grandfather is the freakin KING). Well, my uncle made a lot of friends that July 4th, everyone who came to that party asked him "WHAT IS THIS?", "THIS IS THE BEST BBQ I HAVE TASTED." Essentially everyone was completely blown away by this thing that is completely normal down here. Can you imagine life without Brisket? I mean come on, or even worse, having brisket at someone's july 4th party, and having to wait until the next july 4th party to have it again. I love living here.

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    Nothing beats Texas BBQ.

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    There is one problem with all this Texas pride. Half of the state is really Mexico and in another 15-20 years they will have the whole thing. Enjoy the pride for lil bit longer.
    That sounds so ignorant.

    Look up the history.

    Americans moving east were actually the illegal immigrants and the mexicans let them in. Then the Americans had this whole "manifest destiny" thing and stole the Mexicans land....pretty much you don't know your own states history.

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    Texas is alright. I've now lived in 8 different states and 2 different country's and it ranks higher up on my list then say Ohio, and North Dakota, but far lower then Colorado and Idaho (IMO).

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    And San Antonio sucks ass by the way. It brings down Texas ranking (IMO).

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    DOH! Sorry, I didn't mean to reply to your post, I meant to reply to sommerset's post. You actually made the same point.

    On a side note, my uncle moved to Concord, MA about 15 years ago and he is well known for having big BIG 4th of July parties. Well he wanted to continue the tradition up there, and when he started to go shopping for it . . . . NO BRISKET!! He said he spent a couple hours on the phone calling stores and asking them about it, many didn't even know what it was. Luckily my grandfather was flying up there and he went on base and got a ton of it. Then my uncle let my grandfather cook it (uncle makes it good, grandfather is the freakin KING). Well, my uncle made a lot of friends that July 4th, everyone who came to that party asked him "WHAT IS THIS?", "THIS IS THE BEST BBQ I HAVE TASTED." Essentially everyone was completely blown away by this thing that is completely normal down here. Can you imagine life without Brisket? I mean come on, or even worse, having brisket at someone's july 4th party, and having to wait until the next july 4th party to have it again. I love living here.
    I used to live in Virginia, and at this bbq join I ordered a bbq sandwich. I guess I expected brisket and sauce, but what I got was dry pork with a vinegar-based sauce. It tasted pretty good, but it was craziness to me for bbq sauces to be either vinegar or mus -based. They had never heard of brisket, or ranch-style beans for that matter.

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    And San Antonio sucks ass by the way. It brings down Texas ranking (IMO).
    really? have you ever been there...if so why does it suck glutes?

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    Texas is alright. I've now lived in 8 different states and 2 different country's and it ranks higher up on my list then say Ohio, and North Dakota, but far lower then Colorado and Idaho (IMO).

    CO is practically Texas. It is Texas historically, and plenty of Texans live there.

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    I used to live in Virginia, and at this bbq join I ordered a bbq sandwich. I guess I expected brisket and sauce, but what I got was dry pork with a vinegar-based sauce. It tasted pretty good, but it was craziness to me for bbq sauces to be either vinegar or mus -based. They had never heard of brisket, or ranch-style beans for that matter.
    No ranch style beans? Wow, that just seems crazy to me. There are maybe 6 states in the union that actually BBQ, all of the rest only participate in grilling. Each one does it a little differently and each one has its strengths. That being said, I love brisket and BBQ sauce (tangy, not sweet), so I am glad I am from this 1 of the 6.

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    really? have you ever been there...if so why does it suck glutes?
    I live between SA and Austin. I avoid SA like the plague because of what a dirty, worn down, ty city it is.

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    CO is practically Texas. It is Texas historically, and plenty of Texans live there.
    Plenty of Texans live everywhere. Coloradoans vehemently hate Texans, trust me, I lived there for 9 years. Colorado has virtually nothing in common with Texas other then the fact that they also have a stock show.

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    I live between SA and Austin. I avoid SA like the plague because of what a dirty, worn down, ty city it is.
    And we appreciate it!

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    And we appreciate it!
    That's another awesome part of SA. The locals are all "old-fashioned" folk that help to try and drive away big business when the businesses were all about SA because of how cheap everything is there.

    SA natives hate progress with a passion.

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    Plenty of Texans live everywhere. Coloradoans vehemently hate Texans, trust me, I lived there for 9 years. Colorado has virtually nothing in common with Texas other then the fact that they also have a stock show.

    Yeah, that is actually one of the main reasons why CO's hate Texans, because there are so many Texans there (Largest out of state pop in CO is from TX). What they seem to forget is that they are Texans as well. Classic case of self-loathing.

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    That's another awesome part of SA. The locals are all "old-fashioned" folk that help to try and drive away big business when the businesses were all about SA because of how cheap everything is there.

    SA natives hate progress with a passion.
    Like what, PGA? That is the only example I can think of. I mean we redeveloped Kelly in about a year. It was that quick. We just got one of the most coveted new car plants. Really, other than PGA, what examples?

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    That's another awesome part of SA. The locals are all "old-fashioned" folk that help to try and drive away big business when the businesses were all about SA because of how cheap everything is there.

    SA natives hate progress with a passion.
    I actually agree with you on this to an extent. But I hardly think driving you out of town is getting in the way of progress.

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    Yeah, that is actually one of the main reasons why CO's hate Texans, because there are so many Texans there (Largest out of state pop in CO is from TX). What they seem to forget is that they are Texans as well. Classic case of self-loathing.
    No, what they hate is when they go skiing in the winter and some jackass Texan in a full on Spandex snow suit comes flying down a run and either hurts himself, or others. It happens every hour in Colorado.

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    NY baby!

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    That sounds so ignorant.

    Look up the history.

    Americans moving east were actually the illegal immigrants and the mexicans let them in. Then the Americans had this whole "manifest destiny" thing and stole the Mexicans land....pretty much you don't know your own states history.
    It's not as simple as you make it either.

    Texas was controlled by the Comanches and Apaches. Spain and then Mexico claimed it, but only had limited success settling it. Mexican Texas was mostly just lines on a map. Mexicans had little interest in venturing north into unfamiliar semi-arid lands populated by tribes keen on killing them.

    The Mexican government expanded the empresario program to include American Anglos, thinking that they would establish sufficient control of the land to fend off the native tribes and allow for widespread settlement by Mexicans. It had its eyes open to American ambitions on the land, and took the risk anyway.

    Mexico hoped that over time the settlers would assimilate to Mexican ways, but it never happened. The settlers assumed that the way things were done in America were the way things were done everywhere, and got bent out of shape when Mexico enforced Mexican law. Ethnic Mexicans never settled in any large numbers. San Antonio in the 1830's was an island of Hispanics in a sea of Anglos.

    There absolutely were Texians eager to break off from Mexico and join the U.S. The U.S. had its agents in Texas to rouse up sentiment in that direction. It offered multiple times to buy Texas from Mexico. Little independence movements flared up here and there, but none got very far, because the settlers, for all their grousing, never cared enough to organize and unite.

    When Santa Anna came to power, he saw various provinces, both south and north, only loosely adhering to authority from Mexico City, and he decided to crack down and centralize power. This may have been feasible for someplace like Sinaloa, but for a northern frontierland like Texas where his control was only tenuous at best in the first place, it was a disastrous idea, and he sent the province straight into American hands.

    The number of Hispanics who can claim Texas as any kind of ethnic homeland from pre-1836 days numbers in the tens of thousands at best. For all other Hispanics who hold bitterness about Anglo 'theft,' they are clinging to nationalist myth.

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