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    If I understand correctly, it's too protest against the TARP, the EESA, the Recovery and Investment Act and government provided bailouts and corporate welfare in general.
    I wonder if they'll have any economists speaking.

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    I wonder if they'll have any economists speaking.
    Why? Only economists are apt to talk about these issues?

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    Why? Only economists are apt to talk about these issues?
    I didn't say anything about only economists talking. Thats all you bud. But if you don't see the value in the opinion of economists on the actions during an economic crisis then I don't know what to say.

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    I wonder if they'll have any economists speaking.
    As far as I can tell, the featured speaker is the author of the book Our Grandpa Was an Alien.

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    Why does this get libs' panties all in a wad?


    You don't agree with them, don't go. Simple as that.

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    Why does this get libs' panties all in a wad?
    I see bemusement, not anger.

    You don't agree with them, don't go. Simple as that.
    If they end up in Breckenridge Park, it might be a nice day for a picnic.

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    I didn't say anything about only economists talking. Thats all you bud. But if you don't see the value in the opinion of economists on the actions during an economic crisis then I don't know what to say.
    Have I ever said I don't see the value in the opinion of economists? Let's keep the discussion civilized, please refrain yourself of using strawman arguments.

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    So where was the Tea Party in those years?
    That's like saying where was the American revolution in 1770. The tea tax wasn't the first tax imposed on the colonies, it was just the tipping point from passive resistance at a philosophical level to active resistance and expression.

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    ............But if you don't see the value in the opinion of economists on the actions during an economic crisis then I don't know what to say.
    do you value opinions of economists that oppose obama's economic plan?
    do you value opinions of scientists that say global warming is false?

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    do you value opinions of economists that oppose obama's economic plan?
    Yes - in fact if you read my posts you'd see that.
    do you value opinions of scientists that say global warming is false?
    Yes I do. You have no idea how I feel about climate change do you?

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    Why? Only economists are apt to talk about these issues?
    Have I ever said I don't see the value in the opinion of economists? Let's keep the discussion civilized, please refrain yourself of using strawman arguments.
    Um, who pulled the strawman card? If you have to ask why it would be of value to have an economist to talk at an event like this then you either don't see the value in the economists opinion or your asking questions that don't need to be asked. And as I said before, I never said anything about only economists speaking at the event so would you like you reevaluate your statement on strawman arguments?

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    Yes - in fact if you read my posts you'd see that.
    Yes I do. You have no idea how I feel about climate change do you?
    thanks. i tend to ignore you as much as possible so sorry for not being abreast of your stance on everything. hence the questions.

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    That's like saying where was the American revolution in 1770. The tea tax wasn't the first tax imposed on the colonies, it was just the tipping point from passive resistance at a philosophical level to active resistance and expression.
    Except this isn't a revolutionary war, CC. Its the FIRST step anyone takes - organization. 8 years is a long time to sit around and be mad and not even organize when they cared so much. You can stop acting like this is anything but an anti democratic measure, CC. You don't have to hide it. And there's nothing wrong with that. The San Antonio Tea Party's banner tells you right away who they oppose. There's not a single GOP lawmaker on there even though many of them have made a huge effort to continue deficit spending.

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    thanks. i tend to ignore you as much as possible so sorry for not being abreast of your stance on everything. hence the questions.

    The only person who responds to more of my posts is John Smith so I pretty much laugh at that statement.

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    The only person who responds to more of my posts is John Smith so I pretty much laugh at that statement.
    Damn Straight!

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    Um, who pulled the strawman card? If you have to ask why it would be of value to have an economist to talk at an event like this then you either don't see the value in the economists opinion or your asking questions that don't need to be asked. And as I said before, I never said anything about only economists speaking at the event so would you like you reevaluate your statement on strawman arguments?
    But I didn't make that question, did I?

    And I never accused you of saying that only economists should speak at the event.

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    But I didn't make that question, did I?

    And I never accused you of saying that only economists should speak at the event.
    Oh so your question was removed entirely from the context of this thread and was simply a question on the validity of economists opinions compared to anyone's in general?

    Right.

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    "him abdicating all fiscal responsibility to congress."

    for 6 years, it was a REPUG-controlled Congress, where dubya vetoed nothing, so Exec and Congress were in perfect accord on spending.

    Again, Repugs trying to remove ALL responsibility for anything from dubya.

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    "him abdicating all fiscal responsibility to congress."

    for 6 years, it was a REPUG-controlled Congress, where dubya vetoed nothing, so Exec and Congress were in perfect accord on spending.

    Again, Repugs trying to remove ALL responsibility for anything from dubya.

    Yes, that REPUG spent money like a drunken liberal. I was against out-of-control spending then, and I'm against it now.

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    So where was the Tea Party in those years?
    Wasnt there like some sort of anti-Bush march every other week back then?

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    every day on msnbc, but it was pro-american back in the day.

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    I'm seeing more and more Gadsdens around and about, yet I see no actual things being done to prevent the treading on

    Anyways...I should get back to mailing my little tea bags to the capital so some bum off the street can make an honest buck with his broom.

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    Why does this get libs' panties all in a wad?


    You don't agree with them, don't go. Simple as that.
    Because the silenty majority is getting politically active, they aren't supposed to do that. they are supposed to go to work build the nation pay taxes, obey the laws, and let the more intelligent more morally enlightened run the country.They are supposed to know their place, and if for one minute the thought crosses their mind that they have a right to self determination, the more intelligent more morally enlightend people ridicule and debase them,trivialize them as humans. if that fails more violent methods are deployed. The people cave.

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    Except this isn't a revolutionary war, CC. Its the FIRST step anyone takes - organization. 8 years is a long time to sit around and be mad and not even organize when they cared so much. You can stop acting like this is anything but an anti democratic measure, CC. You don't have to hide it. And there's nothing wrong with that. The San Antonio Tea Party's banner tells you right away who they oppose. There's not a single GOP lawmaker on there even though many of them have made a huge effort to continue deficit spending.

    How is the people exercising their right of assembly and free speech anti democratic, Democracy is not a spectator sport, it requires we all get involved. I see this as more of statement by the people that they feel the political class and the ruling elite have pushed them way to far. I was in the streets against Bush how come I am called anti democratic when I get in streets against Obama.

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    How is the people exercising their right of assembly and free speech anti democratic, Democracy is not a spectator sport, it requires we all get involved. I see this as more of statement by the people that they feel the political class and the ruling elite have pushed them way to far. I was in the streets against Bush how come I am called anti democratic when I get in streets against Obama.


    Who called you anti democratic?

    I'll answer for you, no one.

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