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If Udoka gets Bowens minutes in the playoffs....
This from ESPN.com's recap of the game:
"He told the ref before, like, 'Look man, I'm going to shoot the ball if they come in and foul me,'" Hornets forward David West said. "It's a tricky play to make, but he knows how to be in the act of shooting when those guys are coming to make sure he gets those extra free throws."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=290329003
It's official everyone! Paul and the ref had planned this before the play! es!
If Udoka gets Bowens minutes in the playoffs....
I come here tonight and see a lot of people with a lot of emotion on this loss.
Regardless, I think it's pretty good right now after our own injuries. It's honestly changed, the power is in the East so they say, and the Lakers/Spurs are marked for a repeat WCFs. Question is will we have our boys healthy? Will Gooden be an impact and can we get Mason and guys to step up? I'm coasting right now for the playoffs. I would love a 2 seed but we need to just get in and be healthy when it arrives.
After this game, I think the season will be a success if we can face L.A. in the WCF's and hold them to 6 games.
Hey its a punch in the gut but we can do better. We'll be ok in the playoffs.
do you truly believe that if we face L.A.?
Udoka out there was absolutely HORRIBLE. He did pretty much NOTHING right. He had about 3 or 4 wide open 3 ptrs and bricked the out of them. One or two of them couldve upped our lead to 10 or 11, but he missed em. I want more Gooden/Thomas, less Bonner. I want Hill at backup point, and Mase clearly as a 2-guard gunner. I want less Udoka, and more Bowen. All these things and this team will be just fine! Do it Pop!
I think the bottom line is that most of us here with a realistic understanding of the Spurs know that they CAN be a force when all big 3 are healthy. The thing is, in the past 2 years that situation just hasn't happened very often.
There's a reason I pushed for the Vince Carter trade and it has to do with this team's chances as they stand and their margin for error if they want to make any noise in the post season. Right now that margin of error is razor thin and the Spurs are no where near the level of perfection that is going to be required for them to succeed. There are too many things going against them and they're simply not good enough to overcome much of that as it stands. If they had been willing to part with RMJ it likely gives them a much larger margin of error heading into the playoffs. They can afford to have Manu at less than 100 percent and maybe they can even have Tim playing a bit weaker because others can step up and pick up the load. I will be pleasantly surprised if the Spurs are the team to come out of the West this year because they're simply not good enough to overcome Duncan and Manu's health situation combined with the inconsistent play of Bonner, RMJ, and Hill.
And that's the crux of everything here. While the Spurs have the potential to beat the Lakers in a seven game series it requires the perfect set of cir stances which become less likely by the day. As it stands, the Spurs need to show marked improvement over the last several weeks of the season if they expect to make it out of the first round.
When your superstar gets outplayed by Sean Marks you're in trouble.
Actually, I've seen a couple of NO games and Marks is playing good minutes for them, not like when he was furniture in his stint at SA. He blocked three shots, twice on Tim in the same series. He's very mobile for a 7 footer and runs the court well.
Never thought I'd see the day when I wished he was a backup center here.
I agree. Having Mason in this role is ruining him, and costs the Spurs two players every time he runs the point. There's just not any way Hill could be worse in this role.
The Spurs turned into a jump shooting team in the second half, and they got beat for it. Couple that with their sudden inability to secure a rebound or take care of the ball and you get a game they very much deserved to lose.
I reiterate my previous call to have Udoka run the point. He is a GREAT passer, and has very good court vision. Since he doesn't really do anything else well, and he's already on the floor taking minutes from Bowen...
Not having Bowen in the game at all makes no sense to me whatsoever. If Pop doesn't trust his rookies, then why was Hill on the floor at the end to play defense instead of Bowen?
Lost their first real game in 6 weeks? Didn't they just lose an important game against Houston like 2 weeks ago?Meltdown because the Spurs lost their first real game in six weeks?
Hopefully this debacle ends when Manu is deemed up to speed.
I can't stand Chris Paul.
I hope we don't choke like this in the playoffs... the losses to the Rockets, Celtics, OKC and this one were simply pathetic...
Spurs have to figure out how to make Gooden more effective in offensive. He did well this game, but had to create his own offense.
Gooden needs to know how to play Spurs defense. To many silly reach in fouls. Though, I thought it guarded West well enough. You can see than when Gooden is one-on-one guarding West, West isn't as aggressive.
Interesting that when Hill was on CP3, CP3 was passive offensively. I honestly believe that playoff time, Hill is going to give Paul a lot of problems. Too bad we didn't see that Hill play in the 2nd half.
Mason seems to lose confidence when playing against teams with tight defense. He had very few open looks, and wasn't aggressively looking for his shot.
Manu and Tim simply didn't show up in the final period.
Bonner for some reason seems to miss shots in the critical games.
Udoka, he's inconsistent, at times he's gutsy but because of his lack of athleticism, can't seem to create good shots for himself.
Again.... the Spurs biggest weakness are against athletic guys like Wright and Areza (Lakers).
Ain't it sad that the Hornets and the Rockets are using our former players against us!
That final f...g foul, the only thing I can think
You know what?
I kinda used to loses ...
Don't know if it's good thing though
Mostly agree. I think somehow nabbing the 2 seed, limping into a WCF showdown with the Lakers, and getting swept or faceplanted 4-1 by them is the best case scenario with this crew. I don't know if I'd call that a success -- the Black & Silver has won les, remember?
If we were the Mavs or Suns, then our threshold for success would be much lower, and I suppose they could call that a success. But that wouldn't be success for us.
So that's our best-case scenario, a WCF bow-out. Worst case scenario: we limp along, catch the wrong team in the first round (e.g., Portland, Houston) and get knocked out right then.
Manu can no longer get to the rim.
TP chokes late in games when playing important ones against winning teams... you're is getting old...
Sounds like a very simple solution, which is why Pop isn't going to do it.
Remember when Mason was having early success as a starter, then Pop inexplicably moved him to the bench and he struggled. Pop later decided to move him back into the starting lineup and he flourished again. I wish the same would happen here with George Hill.
I still can't believe this is the same coach that entrusted his team to a 19 year-old rookie, some years back. Of course, that trust didn't come over night or even within the first couple of seasons, as he flirted with the idea of replacing him with J-Kidd.
Therefore, I do agree that this probably has more to do with Pop's inherent mistrust of rookies - no matter how much he gushed over Hill at the beginning.
Just gotta trust in the process.
Enjoy the moment instead of worrying about the future. (but do plan for it)
This line of thinking will save the lot of you from needless angst (and arguements, unless you enjoy that then by all means).
True dat X2. Look, this team lives and dies by the 3. Last night we hit 24% of 3s, and most of those misses were on wide open looks. If we had shot our season average on 3's (39%), we'd have won by 8 points. Or like he says above, if two more had gone in we win.
Bonner and Mason were 1-7 on 3s. That's game right there. I think Pop should shelve the Mason as backup PG idea and get Hill his reps there before the playoffs start. Mason is a gunner, pure and simple.
I'VE waited for you to bash manu. here we go again. gtfo, hater.
No a terrible loss? The Hornets were missing players. The Spurs sucked, especially Mason, Thomas, Bonner and Duncan in the 2nd half. They were ing awful.
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