An IPod?

[Oh, Gee!!]

Historically speaking - he IS a bas - that's the term for a child born to unwed parents right?

presently speaking, you are a .

[Crookshanks]

Pot? Meet kettle. More hypocrisy. And, FYI, what bothers me is how transparent you are.



What a nice slippery slope you've put yourself on there. So let's be clear -- name calling is okay as long as you don't object to it? But if you're offended, well that's a different story and totally out of line and you have EVERY RIGHT to be upset by the nasty things that evil man said!

Now you're just being deliberately obtuse. You can't really expect me to believe you don't see the difference between calling someone Einstein and the names balli called me. And if you don't see the difference, there's no reason to try to have a dialogue with you.

[Crookshanks]

presently speaking, you are a .

Yeah - well dealing with idiots like you and trying to defend my opinions all day long with some of the others here can do that to you.

I'm tired and I've had enough for one day - so adios to all of you!

[Vinnie_Johnson]

God save the Queen.

[Cry Havoc]

Now you're just being deliberately obtuse. You can't really expect me to believe you don't see the difference between calling someone Einstein and the names balli called me. And if you don't see the difference, there's no reason to try to have a dialogue with you.

You know what? You're right about that. I withdraw my comment. But you still called Obama a bas .

But even so, why would I want to have a dialogue with you after you've shown a complete lack of ability to have a rationale debate with any POTENTIAL openness to anyone with an opposing point of view? Your participation in a thread like this is proof that you have no ability to objectively view our President. You are so biased and ridiculous that I think pretty much this entire forum is through trying to discuss things in an adult manner with you. The fact that there are people over the age of 16 in a political forum ripping on Obama for a gift (note the idea implied in that word, as in, an unrequired gesture of friendship or companionship) is proof positive that we will never make any progress until you stop this obscene hate-mongering. You aren't here to debate, you're here to gang up with people about how horrible them damn liberals are. You will find any and everything to give you just the tiniest bit of leverage about the president so that you can talk about how horrible he is.

I'm not even a liberal (though people label me as such because I try to stay in the middle in these things, which is completely liberal to any conservative I've seen on these boards) and it makes me sick. I said I was leaving the political forum earlier, I think I might actually do that now. Nothing positive comes out of this. The conservatives hate Obama to the point of celebrating if he was assassinated, and the left hates them for such overwhelming spite.

[Don Quixote]

Well, not quite. I personally dislike Obama and his politics -- he is a narcissist, he is a liberal (and all that entails), and is not at all experienced enough for the job of President. That said, I would not celebrate an assassination or anything close to it. This is America, not some banana republic.

And ... I can't even say Vice President Biden without throwing up in my mouth a little. Could you imagine him as President?

[Don Quixote]

Thats why Rush is so loved and revered across this country. Because of his endless ability to reach people and make them see his point of view.

Yeah no. Rush reaches a certain demographic and that demographic really feels a resonance with what he has to say, but please don't mistake that for somehow having actual debating skills or an overall appeal to the average person. Most people dont find him appeal at all.

I see I have violated ST Politics Rule #3: Rush is a stupid buffoon, and if you listen to/like him, that makes you a stupid buffoon too. Well, I didn't expect everyone to agree with me. But let's face it, personal politics aside, he has as great a speaking ability as the President, and can do it without a teleprompter. Moreover, I share his love of liberty, limited govt, low taxes, and respect for traditional values. It was partly due to him that I turned Right -- he helped make a convert out of me and a great many other former liberals.

And he has a broad appeal to the average guy. His ratings attest to that. He also has an appeal to educated, somewhat intelligent conservatives, like me. I am proud to say I am a Rush listener.

(But don't take my word for it. Take the Rush challenge! Listen to him for a couple of weeks. Even if you don't agree with him, he'll entertain the out of you. And you'll get a better idea of what he is saying than what the MSM says that he says.)

[Cry Havoc]

I see I have violated ST Politics Rule #3: Rush is a stupid buffoon, and if you listen to/like him, that makes you a stupid buffoon too. Well, I didn't expect everyone to agree with me. But let's face it, personal politics aside, he has as great a speaking ability as the President, and can do it without a teleprompter. Moreover, I share his love of liberty, limited govt, low taxes, and respect for traditional values. It was partly due to him that I turned Right -- he helped make a convert out of me and a great many other former liberals.

And he has a broad appeal to the average guy. His ratings attest to that. He also has an appeal to educated, somewhat intelligent conservatives, like me. I am proud to say I am a Rush listener.

(But don't take my word for it. Take the Rush challenge! Listen to him for a couple of weeks. Even if you don't agree with him, he'll entertain the out of you. And you'll get a better idea of what he is saying than what the MSM says that he says.)

"Limbaugh is the most awful piece of the world has spawned....in the medium of talk radio."

That quote courtesy of my extremely conservative friend.

[MannyIsGod]

I see I have violated ST Politics Rule #3: Rush is a stupid buffoon, and if you listen to/like him, that makes you a stupid buffoon too. Well, I didn't expect everyone to agree with me. But let's face it, personal politics aside, he has as great a speaking ability as the President, and can do it without a teleprompter. Moreover, I share his love of liberty, limited govt, low taxes, and respect for traditional values. It was partly due to him that I turned Right -- he helped make a convert out of me and a great many other former liberals.

And he has a broad appeal to the average guy. His ratings attest to that. He also has an appeal to educated, somewhat intelligent conservatives, like me. I am proud to say I am a Rush listener.

(But don't take my word for it. Take the Rush challenge! Listen to him for a couple of weeks. Even if you don't agree with him, he'll entertain the out of you. And you'll get a better idea of what he is saying than what the MSM says that he says.)

The Rush you have in your head is not the Rush in reality. His ratings? His approval rating was measured at 19% not even a month ago. His radio ratings reprent - just like i said - a very small segment of the population. How many people listen to talk radio? Very few. How many of those listen to Rush? And even smaller number.

Oh, and lol @ Rush having values. Rush is a pill popping blowhard but to each his own. You can try to elevate him to the level of the POTUSA (whomever it may be - not just Obama) but that is simply laughable.

[Don Quixote]

Wow. You should have written Bagdad Bob's speeches. You would also fit in at Pravda. Good grief. No, Meester Limbaugh has no audience, peeeple is turning off thee radio, hees leeseners are surrenduring een droves.

Very well then. I would retort that the Obama you have in your head is not the Obama of reality. First of all, I have read his approval rating down in the 50ies, still good for a Pres, but hardly the stuff of Hope and Change, let alone the One. And they're down quite a bit from the 80s he was in around Inauguration. Stock market mini-crashes and a habit of selecting tax cheats for his Cabinet have a way of doing that. And the American people are rightly su ious of the government running any segment of the economy. And did I mention this onerous budget, full of pork? Hope and Change indeed.

(I know alot of non-liberals who voted for the guy are wondering right now -- is this what I voted for? Well, I tried to warn you!)

Second, do you really want to go down the "drug" road with a conservative? Really? I will reply that, unlike the liberals who either flaunt their drug use or are in and out of rehab, Rush got hooked on Rx stemming from surgery. I've known guys that happened to. He owned up to it, got help, and he beat it. (Are you aware the kind words he had for Al Gore's son when he had drug problems?)

And lastly ... I'm not elevating him to the Messiah's level. Lord No! Barack H. Obama is the greatest man ever! No one can reach that holy mountain. I do suggest however, that Rush could stand toe to toe with him in a debate, no teleprompters. And as for the values, yes, he generally has them and preaches them. Hard work, no gummint handouts. Respect for life and traditional values. A realistic view of the world -- seeing radical Islam and communism as the horrible systems they are, refusing to compromise with them. And America as the world's best hope of overcoming them.

But hey, we Rush listeners are all knuckle-draggers. Not at all in touch with reality.

[ChumpDumper]

Wow. You should have written Bagdad Bob's speeches. You would also fit in at Pravda. Good grief. No, Meester Limbaugh has no audience, peeeple is turning off thee radio, hees leeseners are surrenduring een droves.

The new straw shipment has arrived, I see.

[Don Quixote]

Gotta hand it to him though, it was a better idea then the "reset" button.

(bowing to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia)

What!? Is the President his subject now? Is this going to be the norm for our era of Hope and Change?

Somewhere, Hillary is laughing ...

[Don Quixote]

I understand that Team Obama has not yet appointed a chief of protocol? Is this true? If it is, that might explain some of this.

"Oh, yeah, did I forget to tell y'all about that? So sorry about that. Gooooo, Team!"

-Hillary

[ChumpDumper]

You're an idiot.

[Creepn]

Well, not quite. I personally dislike Obama and his politics -- he is a narcissist, he is a liberal (and all that entails), and is not at all experienced enough for the job of President. That said, I would not celebrate an assassination or anything close to it. This is America, not some banana republic.

And ... I can't even say Vice President Biden without throwing up in my mouth a little. Could you imagine him as President?

Says the guy who supports Sarah Palin.

[LnGrrrR]

We finally have a classy president back in the White House and Mic e is now officially proud of her country.

The next head of state is getting a six pack of Schlitz and a Sham Wow.

lol Sham Wows rock.

[Winehole23]

I want a ShamWow. I want the six pack of Schlitz, too.

[LnGrrrR]

In an actual debate, no teleprompters, I would predict a Limbaugh rout over Obama, or pretty much anyone. He is that good. The inspirational, and biting, and sarcastic, and funny stuff he can say off the cuff is unrivaled.

It's easy to win over the masses with emotional appeals using poor arguing and logical fallacies.

Now, I'd definitely like to see a scored debate between Obama and Limbaugh, with people who can appreciate the things I mentioned above. THAT would be interesting.

[LnGrrrR]

(But don't take my word for it. Take the Rush challenge! Listen to him for a couple of weeks. Even if you don't agree with him, he'll entertain the out of you. And you'll get a better idea of what he is saying than what the MSM says that he says.)

I've listened to Limbaugh and he just sounds trite. O'Reilly is somewhat entertaining, but only because I picture him getting home and saying, "Man... my listeners are a bunch of rubes."

[Viva Las Espuelas]

muslims look at this as a sign of "submission".

this is done as a sign of respect. all presidents/leaders do this. with the exception of muslim leaders.

apples and oranges, really.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I mean, come on!

Did it have a Presidential seal? That would rock!

[George Gervin's Afro]

muslims look at this as a sign of "submission".
this is done as a sign of respect. all presidents/leaders do this. with the exception of muslim leaders.

apples and oranges, really.

so now your'e an expert on muslims? Do all muslims feel this way?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

The conservatives hate Obama to the point of celebrating if he was assassinated, and the left hates them for such overwhelming spite.

that's a pretty f'n stupid ass statement to post. post what you will. it's your opinion, but you're trying to scold crookshanks about her debating skills, her close-mindness, and her name calling yet you make that jackass statement. not some conservatives...not most conservatives...not conservatives from the south, but conservatives in general. i, for the most part, am fairly conservative and your asinine statement is far from the truth for me. before every meal, when i wake up and when i go to bed i pray to God for my family, friends, this country and our president. no, i didn't leave out "the assassination" between "our" and "president" in my previous sentence. sorry to dissapoint you and proving you wrong based off your jackass statement. i truly pray that he does good for us. i don't hold him on a pedestal like most people, here and abroad, do. believe me. mccain would more than likely be doing the same. sorry to reveal that shocker.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

so now your'e an expert on muslims? Do all muslims feel this way?

no, not an expert. i should've used "muslim leaders" instead of saying "muslims" in general. sorry.

<sarcasm begins now> boy, that was a cry havoc-like jackass move on my part.<sarcasm stops>

thanks for calling me out, GGA

[Don Quixote]

Well ... Americans never bow to any royalty whatsoever. They shouldn't anyway. We're not their subjects.