Any atheists here?

[easjer]

Personally, I find that to be quite a downer. There's people in the world that need eternal salvation now, in this life, not after it.

Who is to say that they can receive that from religion? Mother Teresa was among the blessed poor and helped the blessed poor, and was happy.

Again, Christianity is deceptively simple. It's the humans who complicate it.


Also - I find that religion is rarely a pure motive for anything. The Crusades, for example, while religious in theory, were more often about glory and riches for the Crusaders, and the romantic appeal, rather than true Christianity (which, if they'd reflected truly upon it, would probably have been dissuaded - blessed are the peacemakers -- but that's the disadvantage to a society that cannot read their scriptures themselves).

Motivations nearly always go back to self interest on some level, and that should be noted. One of the greatest things about religion (ought to be true of Christiantiy, and I believe of most religions) is that is intended to get one to think beyond one's self. That is most beneficial for everyone when applied properly.

[jcrod]

Then maybe heaven isn't such a great place after all. I think if I die and find out there is a Christian god, I will be sad. Not because I missed out on heaven, but because a Christian god is a shallow god.

How can any version of Heaven be bad? Don't know why you would call him a Christian God, instead of just GOD, how is he shallow? Because he wants you to worship him? I believe worshiping him is just believing he is the reason were here and to follow is simple rules. Which I believe makes Heaven a wonderful place. Love thy neighbor, don't kill, steal, lie, etc. How is believing in this wrong in any shape or form wrong??? Of course we will fail from time to time, but that's why Jesus died for our sins. We will be forgiving if we have faith and believe.


This is my point of view.
I'm just a believer, I do go to a Catholic church, born and raised. But I don't necassarily pratice Catholic. I don't believe I need to go to church every Sunday, I believe I can go to just about any church and pray, as well as my home. I do not need a church to pray to God or for him to know I believe.

[usckk]

BishopRyan, I agree that religion was created to give people hope and peace.

[cheguevara]

Good to know Heaven is not gonna be overcrowded.

[tlongII]

Personally, I find that to be quite a downer. There's people in the world that need eternal salvation now, in this life, not after it.

I have heard that you can buy salvation for 800 bucks.

[SWC Bonfire]

Good to know Heaven is not gonna be overcrowded.

...because everyone knows only Mormons go to heaven.

This thread reminds me of an old advertizing campaign:



In case you can't read it, it says "Yes, God is a man".

[easjer]

^

[jcrod]

Personally, I find that to be quite a downer. There's people in the world that need eternal salvation now, in this life, not after it.

This life is a blink of an eye compared to eternal life after death. How is this a downer????

[Marcus Bryant]

Personally, I find that to be quite a downer. There's people in the world that need eternal salvation now, in this life, not after it.

Again, if you're looking for a payoff in this life you're not going to find it. It's akin to expecting you to pay your debts.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I believe that children are the future.

To this day I still believe this.

[IronMexican]

I'm atheist.

[Bigzax]

i don't believe in atheists.

[dirk4mvp]

Listen to me! You have to consider the possibility that God does not like you. He never wanted you. In all probability, he hates you. This is not the worst thing that can happen.

[DAF86]

I'm an atheist. I stopped bealiving in God when I found out that Santa doesn't exist.

[xtremesteven33]

I'm an atheist. I stopped bealiving in God when I found out that Santa doesn't exist.

Simple as that huh??

[DAF86]

Simple as that huh??

Yep, pretty much. I hope I'm wrong though.

[IronMexican]

Look at what Manu is doing to the Argies. He makes me sick.

[xtremesteven33]

Yep, pretty much. I hope I'm wrong though.

I dont think you wanna be wrong.

[Blake]

I dont think you wanna be wrong.

what if he is?

[xtremesteven33]

what if he is?

According to the Bible all sinners spend eternity seperated from God. I dont want to get into a religious debate over the internet though.....if you want to talk serious religion (im not a practicing Christian) PM me and we can talk.

[DAF86]

I dont think you wanna be wrong.

And why would you think that?

[Dr. Gonzo]

According to the Bible all sinners spend eternity seperated from God. I dont want to get into a religious debate over the internet though.....if you want to talk serious religion (im not a practicing Christian) PM me and we can talk.

What fun is that?

[Dr. Gonzo]

And why would you think that?

Dude is that your picture in your avatar?

[IronMexican]

If I am right, then I saved myself hours of being bored in church.

[dirk4mvp]

According to the Bible all sinners spend eternity seperated from God. I dont want to get into a religious debate over the internet though.....if you want to talk serious religion (im not a practicing Christian) PM me and we can talk.

Can you just start a thread instead and entertain everyone?