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    I bet it did.

    WH23 salutes your confiding spirit of self-disclosure (brava!) and respects your personal testimonial.

    Cheers.
    Thank you.

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    naw, I like AL and I'd feel worse if I picked on her than if I picked on the girl that was eating the microphone while trying to spell her words.

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    The tradition sucks, and social darwinism is merely the default philosophy of bullies.
    Adapt and overcome then! Crap, I was a skinny geek when I was a kid too, got into a few fights and didn't date at all in high school. But I developed a sense of humor, so that I might eventually find a mate and procreate (a process that is about three months along now, woohoo).

    Now, I'm not advocating beating the crap out of him. But he's probably making fun of the jocks, or dumb people, or any numerous amount of people he thinks are 'weird'. Life's about celebrating the differences between people, and sometimes you celebrate that you're better than others, whether it be in economic standing, social skills, or just that someone sucks overall more than you.

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    I'm getting so tempted here.....

    get thee behind me johnsmith
    Oh, go ahead. Give in. In your heart, you already did!

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    Oh, go ahead. Give in. In your heart, you already did!
    aaaaggh. twist my arm.

    hey AL, did your mom's science curriculum consist of one sentence: "God did it."?





    That's all I can muster......I already feel so dirty.

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    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
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    Angel Luv can take care of herself.

    I'll just watch from a safe distance, promise.

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    Adapt and overcome then! Crap, I was a skinny geek when I was a kid too, got into a few fights and didn't date at all in high school.
    Oh you should be glad you never had to play soccer against me. I was undersized and a late bloomer, so I took it out on people plenty once I matured physically. I was a big ol bully on the pitch.

    But I developed a sense of humor, so that I might eventually find a mate and procreate (a process that is about three months along now, woohoo).
    L'Chaim.

    Life's about celebrating the differences between people, and sometimes you celebrate that you're better than others, whether it be in economic standing, social skills, or just that someone sucks overall more than you.
    I used to be more concerned about the open sadism of American culture, but I've since become jaded and accept it more or less as a fact.

    It is satisfying to point and laugh. In pars, it's what message boards like this exist for.

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    Oh you should be glad you never had to play soccer against me. I was undersized and a late bloomer, so I took it out on people plenty once I matured physically. I was a big ol bully on the pitch.

    L'Chaim.

    I used to be more concerned about the open sadism of American culture, but I've since become jaded and accept it more or less as a fact.

    It is satisfying to point and laugh. In pars, it's what message boards like this exist for.
    No need to be jaded! Embrace it! Sometimes America is great because we protect the weak, and sometimes America is great because we make fun of the weak.

    Like you said, when you could, you took advantage of the situation your greater size presented you. Now, I'm not advocating running over some kid half your size as a rule of thumb. But if he's being a , sure, nail him.

    I don't think that the kid in the video was JUST awkward. Listen to the way he phrased his responses. They made him sound haughty and standoffish. "I don't know what my mom would think. Go ask her." "If you don't say it right, I can't spell it." Instead of the normal "Oh, I think she'd say blah blah blah" or "Could you pronounce that again please? It's important for me to hear it clearly in order to spell it."

    The kid had a lack of manners coupled with his obvious weirdness. Whether that's due to upbringing or autism, I don't know. But it's certainly not going to get him a pass in my book.

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    The kid had a lack of manners coupled with his obvious weirdness. Whether that's due to upbringing or autism, I don't know. But it's certainly not going to get him a pass in my book.
    FWIW, it makes a difference to me.

    The behavior problem is plain as day. But isn't it usual for twelve year olds to be haughty, contrary and conceited? Not to excuse it, but adolescence is not a gentle change even for the beautiful and well-socialized. Anxiety gets expressed in weird ways, as evidenced upstream. Both of those kids are pretty tightly wound. I know I was.

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    Yeah, a little. To be clear, I am not making fun or "trashing" this kid. I am not even laughing at him as if this had some comedic value.

    It actually kind of pisses me off, if anything. His parent's are to blame. Theyve created a barrier in this boys life that didnt need to be there in the first place.

    Like 101A said, maybe hes slightly autistic. Also, what someone else said, homeschooling isnt what it used to be. They have remedial sports with other homeschooled kids, gatherings, field trips, etc.

    But it doesnt *seem* this young man has had much social interaction outside his family circle. Thats the way it seems...doesnt mean Im right, just my snap observation. Could be wrong, could be waaaaay wrong. I hope I am wrong about his social skills, I really do.


    So, let me get this straight, if a person is awkward, nerdy, lacking in "social" skills, then it's because they are home-schooled? Have you never met a person like this in a public school? You probably have, and they are usually picked on and bullied, which REALLY improves their social skills.


    One of my neighbors home-schools her two kids and they are absolute model citizens.


    Just saying.


    This thread fails miserably.

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    FWIW, it makes a difference to me.

    The behavior problem is plain as day. But isn't it usual for twelve year olds to be haughty, contrary and conceited? Not to excuse it, but adolescence is not a gentle change even for the beautiful and well-socialized. Anxiety gets expressed in weird ways, as evidenced upstream. Both of those kids are pretty tightly wound. I know I was.
    Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps. All I know is, at this moment in time, he seems like a weird jerk.

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    So, let me get this straight, if a person is awkward, nerdy, lacking in "social" skills, then it's because they are home-schooled? Have you never met a person like this in a public school? You probably have, and they are usually picked on and bullied, which REALLY improves their social skills.


    One of my neighbors home-schools her two kids and they are absolute model citizens.


    Just saying.


    This thread fails miserably.
    I'm surprised at all the support for homeschooling. A lot of people taking this seriously.

    I don't really know anything about the habits of homeschoolers. I'm just ripping on this one kid.

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    Like you said, when you could, you took advantage of the situation your greater size presented you. Now, I'm not advocating running over some kid half your size as a rule of thumb. But if he's being a , sure, nail him.
    I had a physical playing style generally, but I tended to target players even bigger than me. Naploeon complex. I still pick on bullies a little bit.

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    I was home schooled from kinder all the way through 12th grade graduation.
    Angel- isn't your mom a professor- though? Lots of people home school who have not the knowledge or experience to be doing it.

    The main things that home schooled students miss educationally are learning how to speak in front of groups and how to work on group projects. I also feel that often they grow up without exposure to people who are different from them and that is not a good thing.

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    Pro-Choice!

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    The main things that home schooled students miss educationally are learning how to speak in front of groups and how to work on group projects.
    Public school kids miss out on this too.

    I also feel that often they grow up without exposure to people who are different from them and that is not a good thing.
    Isn't this what college and the rest of your life is for?

    Some kids who are home-schooled become miserable shut ins or else have unreasonably overprotective parents. Others become self-motivating and self-regulating. The relative absence of drugs and the sex selection pool in the educational scenario can be a good thing. It's not for everybody. But it is one option for kids who have stubborn developmental problems or are otherwise too weird to survive for long in public schools. Some kids could get short-changed by incompetent teachers, but this is just as true of public education.

    If there's anything I've noticed about the ten or so people I've known who were home-schooled, it's a higher than average ratio of self-starters. Ultimately, everything in education depends crucially on the exertions of the student.

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    ^^ I couldn't have said it better myself. I will suc b to the fact that Home schooled students understand the conceptual area of most subjects better and do perform better academically. Interacting with your peers and making your own decisions with the right guidance exceeds everything. The Real Life experiences you get from School can not be taught anywhere else. Most of these kids collapse within themselves when they are released from the cage. Kids that are overly sheltered are the same way.

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    Angel- isn't your mom a professor- though? Lots of people home school who have not the knowledge or experience to be doing it.
    True.
    My mom teaches English at a Chinese University and is a highly intelligent person in general, so I was exceptionally blessed that she was the one who educated me.


    My dad taught me history. It was his favorite subject and he also was a college graduate and highly intelligent.

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    I was home schooled.

    I turned out fine, minus the part where I don't have any friends. Especially on these forums.
    Eh, you could do better. I'm just guessing you're on the younger side here, but regardless I recommend you start by befriending yourself. It costs very little and it might not suck as much as you think.

    There's cool peeps if you hang around, like anywhere else on ST.

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    IMHO, homeschooling is not a good idea . . .

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    Judging a kid by a three minute blurb on national TV makes perfect sense.

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    We need brand new educational ins utions. Homeschooling is one. But we can do much better.
    We need better parents who don't think their kids should never have an upsetting experience like being grounded or having privileges revoked when they don't perform in school, and who are willing to take the teacher's side when they say their kid is a problem, or has a problem.

    Teachers aren't going raise your kid or turn them into a good person. That's your job.

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    Teachers aren't going raise your kid or turn them into a good person. That's your job.
    Agree 100% with your emphasis on poor parenting. If more parents felt the same way about education, maybe public schools would be a little better.

    If the schools function in loco parentis that doesn't make them the parents. For better and for worse, past a certain age public school socialization starts to overtake home training in both relevance and efficacy. So get your licks in early. Waiting too long to get involved is a recipe for fail.

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    IMHO, homeschooling is not a good idea . . .
    I find that a pretty dangerous way of thinking, to believe that parents are not at all qualified to teach their own children. Might just as well hand them over to the government immediately upon birth.

    I wonder if it's possible the kid is homeschooled because of his lack of social skills, not that he lacks social skills because he is homeschooled.

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    I wonder if it's possible the kid is homeschooled because of his lack of social skills, not that he lacks social skills because he is homeschooled.
    There's that, sure, then there's kids who honestly make better use of their time away from school, while getting their education at home. Once upon a time, it was normal. In principle, technology plus the various distance learning formats makes it possible again.

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