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    I know there are home school coops where kids interact with other kids their age in classroom settings at least 3 days out of the week. Parents that are strong in some subjects teach those subjects and others teach in other strengths.. all the kids are in very social setting and interact in sports and other subjects like theater and music.
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    I know there are home school coops where kids interact with other kids their age in classroom settings at least 3 days out of the week. Parents that are strong in some subjects teach those subjects and others thech in other strengths.. all the kids are in very social setting and interact in sports and other subjects like theater and music.
    Highly dependent upon the quality of participation like all other forms of homeschooling, but viable. I wish there was more of it.

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    This has got little to do with homeschooling, its the spelling bee kids. There is a great do entary on this subject called spellbound or something like that, where you can clearly see what kind of pressure those kids are beeing subjected.

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    I was thinking about this for a while yesterday.

    Winning the spelling bee is a great accomplishment. Requires great diligence and hardwork.

    But why the put so much emphasis on spelling? When i was a young boy in school

    we used to have tests over spelling on a regular basis. As i progressed and had to take notes in classes

    handwriting and spelling got worse than it had ever been, but i have always been a straight A student.

    If it was a compe ion on Vocabulary, History, or other subjects it would be completely

    understandable because that MAY benefit you. But these kids really aren't getting much

    out of spelling, and I'm not talking about the money they win from the compe ion. Its

    kind of like getting a good grade in a useless class. It'll help your GPA out but in reality it

    doesn't play a role in developing your intellect.

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    If there's anything I've noticed about the ten or so people I've known who were home-schooled, it's a higher than average ratio of self-starters. Ultimately, everything in education depends crucially on the exertions of the student.
    Actually, I believe that first it depends on the value of education that is instilled from the parents. I would guess that many who home school think they are giving their kids a better education than what they can get elsewhere. Most who are successful from any form of schooling- be it home, private or public- come from families that support how important education is in the first place. Home schooling surely has a higher percentage of this type as do private schools, with public schools having a lower percentage.

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    I was thinking about this for a while yesterday.

    Winning the spelling bee is a great accomplishment. Requires great diligence and hardwork.

    But why the put so much emphasis on spelling? When i was a young boy in school

    we used to have tests over spelling on a regular basis. As i progressed and had to take notes in classes

    handwriting and spelling got worse than it had ever been, but i have always been a straight A student.

    If it was a compe ion on Vocabulary, History, or other subjects it would be completely

    understandable because that MAY benefit you. But these kids really aren't getting much

    out of spelling, and I'm not talking about the money they win from the compe ion. Its

    kind of like getting a good grade in a useless class. It'll help your GPA out but in reality it

    doesn't play a role in developing your intellect.
    Well, although i agree spelling has little use, in reality all you need is 20% of the beginning and 20% of the end of the word to know it in most cases, kids that do this stuff develop could work habits

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    understandable because that MAY benefit you. But these kids really aren't getting much

    out of spelling, and I'm not talking about the money they win from the compe ion. Its

    kind of like getting a good grade in a useless class. It'll help your GPA out but in reality it

    doesn't play a role in developing your intellect
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    I played Putt-Putt compe ively for two years. I know exactly what you mean.

    Srsly, orthography is for pussies. Or academics. Usage is king.

    This judgment comes from a person who thinks knowledge of Anglophone roots and derivations helps precision and is very important. Next to actual usage, etymology is nothing. It's always way more important to understand what people are actually saying to you.

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    Well, although i agree spelling has little use, in reality all you need is 20% of the beginning and 20% of the end of the word to know it in most cases, kids that do this stuff develop could work habits
    Crndsr wtrng stnncs wtht vlws, thn srcnwg p th odrr f th csnsnnts, bt lnvg th fsrt nd lts cnsntns th sm.
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    Actually, I believe that first it depends on the value of education that is instilled from the parents.
    For me, part of the attraction of education is that it took me away from my parents. Not that they were uneducated, but my own love of learning did not come from them.

    I would guess that many who home school think they are giving their kids a better education than what they can get elsewhere. Most who are successful from any form of schooling- be it home, private or public- come from families that support how important education is in the first place. Home schooling surely has a higher percentage of this type as do private schools, with public schools having a lower percentage.
    Sounds like a reasonable guess to me. Those who care about education will do a little better. That is no guarantee for their kids though.

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    whoa, that's rain man if he was a speller...LOL

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    I played Putt-Putt compe ively for two years. I know exactly what you mean.

    Srsly, orthography is for pussies. Or academics. Usage is king.

    This judgment comes from a person who thinks knowledge of Anglophone roots and derivations helps precision and is very important. Next to actual usage, etymology is nothing. It's always way more important to understand what people are actually saying to you.
    Exactly, i don't understand why they don't do a compe ion about the definitions.

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    Well, although i agree spelling has little use, in reality all you need is 20% of the beginning and 20% of the end of the word to know it in most cases, kids that do this stuff develop could work habits
    http://help.com/post/220484-this-proves-spelling-doesnt


    This proves spelling doesn’t matter…

    I cdnoult blveiee taht i cluod aulacity uesdnatnrd waht i was rdgnieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to rsceearch at Cmabrigde Uinervisy, it deosn’t mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae.

    The reset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lterter by istelf, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig eh? And I awlyas tohghut slpeling was imporantt…! And for thsoe of you wtih mroe tmie tahn ohrets, you wlli ntocie taht not olny are msot of the wrosd a mses but smoe of tehm are cpmlpoetley msiseplt awslel…!


    ************************************************** ************** ***********************

    I couldn’t believe that I could actually understand what I was reading. The phenominal power of the human mind, according to research at Cambridge University, it doesn’t matter what order the letters in a word are, the only important thing is that the first and last letter be in the right place.

    The rest can be a total mess and you can still read it without a problem. This is because the human mind does not read every letter by itself, but the word as a whole. Amazing, eh? And I always thought spelling was important! And for those of you with more time on your hands than others, you will notice that not only are most of the words a mess but some of them are completely misspelt as well!

    Yup.

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    bodi miller was home-schooled and he's a

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    Judging a kid by a three minute blurb on national TV makes perfect sense.
    , I judge people within seconds. Technically, we all do. Usually it's subconscious, but not always. After all, if a guy cuts me off in traffic, I immediately judge him as a bag. Maybe he just got back from giving $10,000 to a local charity. Who knows? I am still judging him as a bag from my vantage point.

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    Crndsr wtrng stnncs wtht vlws, thn srcnwg p th odrr f th csnsnnts, bt lnvg th fsrt nd lts cnsntns th sm.
    http://help.com/post/220484-this-proves-spelling-doesnt


    This proves spelling doesn’t matter…

    I cdnoult blveiee taht i cluod aulacity uesdnatnrd waht i was rdgnieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to rsceearch at Cmabrigde Uinervisy, it deosn’t mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae.

    The reset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lterter by istelf, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig eh? And I awlyas tohghut slpeling was imporantt…! And for thsoe of you wtih mroe tmie tahn ohrets, you wlli ntocie taht not olny are msot of the wrosd a mses but smoe of tehm are cpmlpoetley msiseplt awslel…!


    ************************************************** ************** ***********************

    I couldn’t believe that I could actually understand what I was reading. The phenominal power of the human mind, according to research at Cambridge University, it doesn’t matter what order the letters in a word are, the only important thing is that the first and last letter be in the right place.

    The rest can be a total mess and you can still read it without a problem. This is because the human mind does not read every letter by itself, but the word as a whole. Amazing, eh? And I always thought spelling was important! And for those of you with more time on your hands than others, you will notice that not only are most of the words a mess but some of them are completely misspelt as well!

    Yup.
    This is absolutely untrue. They specifically chose words and letter orders that your mind can resolve without needing the spelling as much. It's a myth and has been debunked several times.

    Do your research next time before automatically taking something for truth.

    (and just for you doubters)

    Iltnsegnetiry I'm sdutynig tihs crsrootaivnel pnoheenmon at the Dptmnearet of Liuniigctss at Absytrytewh Uivsreitny and my exartrnairdoy doisiervecs waleoetderhlhy cndairotct the piczbeliud fdnngiis rrgdinaeg the rtlvaeie dfuictlify of ialtnstny ttalrisanng snnteeecs. My rsceeerhars deplveeod a cnionevent ctnoiaptorn at hnasoa/tw.nartswdbvweos/utrtek:p./il taht dosnatterems that the hhpsteyios uuiqelny wrtaarns criieltidby if the aoussmpitn that the prreoecandpne of your wrods is not eendetxd is uueniqtolnabse. Aoilegpos for aidnoptg a cdocianorttry vwpiienot but, ttoheliacrley spkeaing, lgitehnneng the words can mnartafucue an iocnuurgons samenttet that is vlrtiauly isbpilechmoenrne.

    Or, if you prefer:

    Interestingly I'm studying this controversial phenomenon at the Department of Linguistics at Aberystwyth University and my extraordinary discoveries wholeheartedly contradict the publicized findings regarding the relative difficulty of instantly translating sentences. My researchers developed a convenient contraption at http://www.aardvarkbusiness.net/tool that demonstrates that the hypothesis uniquely warrants credibility if the assumption that the preponderance of your words is not extended is unquestionable. Apologies for adopting a contradictory viewpoint but, theoretically speaking, lengthening the words can manufacture an incongruous statement that is virtually incomprehensible.
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    I threw it out as a curiosity, not as authoritative. Whatever. Your own refutation is not more authoritative than what it refutes. Indeed, the claim actually made above is rather weak:

    My researchers developed a convenient contraption at http://www.aardvarkbusiness.net/tool that demonstrates that the hypothesis uniquely warrants credibility if the assumption that the preponderance of your words is not extended is unquestionable. Apologies for adopting a contradictory viewpoint but, theoretically speaking, lengthening the words can manufacture an incongruous statement that is virtually incomprehensible.
    Tricky condition (all big words) plus a weasel word qualifier. It's not sporting to set the bar so low, but perhaps I should rest content you did not dig a trench to bury it in.

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