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What's interesting is that Popovich is basically admitting that they effed up by taking Hill in the 1st round. You would think that he could give the Spurs more than Vaughn?
I found myself yelling at my tv about Drew. I kept saying to myself that he was the only one taking shots outside of the offense. It is very evident when you watch him. He can score, but he takes a lot of shots outside the flow of a structured offense.
What's interesting is that Popovich is basically admitting that they effed up by taking Hill in the 1st round. You would think that he could give the Spurs more than Vaughn?
Very true.
That is not true at all. Hill was a late 1st, those guys are not expected to do anything anyways. Is Portland admitting they were wrong because they are starting Joel over Oden? Or Miami because Haslem is starting over Beasley?
Dont pay attention to tlong he never has anything good to say.
When he's making most of his shots and this "structured" offense can't do outside of TP, how the is that a bad thing?
BECAUSE we need to gel as a team, and win in a structured way, else game 7 in the PO, gooden is going to lay an egg. I can just see Gooden, single handedly winning game 7 on the road, by doing Iso's.
Rather get a loss if it means we get some semblance of system going, or die trying, but i WILL NOT SETTLE FOR some cheap regular season wins right now. If we do get our system right, it wont matter what seed we have, we hav already clinched a spot.
now everyone stop running around panicing ..... if the system doesnt work, it doesnt. They will retool, duncan will rest up and return, (just a few months back he was a top 5 MVP candidate and now hes old, and time has caught up to him).
It is like when a player takes really bad shots, but makes them. Ya, it is good for one or two games, but over the long haul, it does not bode well.
he was hurt should have never played
but begged pop and pop gave in
another selfish moment for manu
hurting the spurs just so he could play
god its just getting worse and worse isnt it. something needs to change soon or spurs are in for a quick first round exit
The Spurs system this season is to jack up open 3s. I'd rather have Gooden driving amd possibly getting foul calls, even if he isn't in the O. I hope that can be corrected, of course. Him playing in the O, and continuing to do what he has would be devastating, but I doubt there is enough time. Sorry, I'm on the GAS, I have to back #90.BECAUSE we need to gel as a team, and win in a structured way, else game 7 in the PO, gooden is going to lay an egg. I can just see Gooden, single handedly winning game 7 on the road, by doing Iso's.
Rather get a loss, if it means, we get some semblance of system going, or die trying, but i WILL NOT SETTLE FOR some cheap regular season wins right now. If we do get our system right, it wont matter what seed we have, we hav already clinched a spot.
DVR gets no love tonight.
A structured offense based almost exclusively on open 3s doesn't bode well either. And he is taking high percentage shot.
Gooden is not going to fit on this team. I'm officially off the bandwagon. However....since we're playing the worst of any spurs team in recent memory heading into the playoffs, his scoring is keeping us from looking like a total joke in the final scores.
I just will never understand how players like him, with solid athleticism and size, can suck ass at defense. It's beyond me. He's more physically talented than any secondary bigman we've had in this era. And he blows goats for quarters on the defensive end.
How can a professional bball player suck so much ass at knowing how to play D?
I like Gooden. He was a no risk signing and has shown some flashes. He is EXACTLY what we thought he was when we got him. If he can just keep up the energy and rebound at a good clip and continue score in spurts, he can help a little. Not enough to invest in him long term, but...
No , this guy was a joke on D in 07 and some people think he'll come in and be some kind of savior in a starting role. Our stater Cs aren't as good as him talent wise but they play better light years better within the system than he does
Drew gooden is scoring whenever he gets the ball, or at least trying, because his scoring is going to earn him more money next year. His defense is not.
His only chance to earn a paycheck next year is for a team to think he is the answer to their need for post scoring. He is not going to learn the spurs defense in 10 games. So his only chance to up his paycheck is to score whenever he gets the ball.
This game showed what we all secretly know, but don't want to admit: the spurs are fools gold. The 3 point shooting, which earlier in the season was carrying this team, has been exposed, and we have little to no scoring outside the big 3 without it.
Unless it resurfaces, we are 1 and done, at best.
Pop is letting Gooden be a ballhog as sort of a Duncan-lite, but we've seen nothing resembling good team defense when both Duncan and Gooden are on the floor together. Gooden wasn't even active on the boards against the Cavs today.
I wanted to believe this could work, but now it's just way too obvious he won't fit in. I think we'll throw him chump change and he'll turn it down for something better.
Where did anyone say he begged Pop to play today?he was hurt should have never played
but begged pop and pop gave in
another selfish moment for manu
hurting the spurs just so he could play
I think ducks is as senile as hubie brown
Psst... Pop doesn't care about D anymore apparently. Otherwise Bonner wouldn't be starting and Bowen/Hill wouldn't have their asses glued to the bench.
if he was that sore and pop knew it
he either was an idiot for playing him
or he was an idiot for letting manu talk him into it
manu wants to play
would not surprise if he did not tell pop he was sore
or if pop knew begged him to play
the only problem playoffs are what matters not cavs game today
Okay, so your previous post was just a made up lie (assumption) on your part.
Got it.
The Gooden move that is most un-Spur-like is when he gets the ball about 18 feet out on the perimeter and instead of making the simple pass to run the offense, he literally dribbles down into the post to post himself up
It should be a clue that if Tim Duncan never dominates the action like that, it's not what Drew Gooden should be doing. His low basketball IQ combined with his questionable motives and ball hoggish ways can make him downright disruptive to the team, even if he's scoring well. And that's not even talking about his defensive shortcomings.
All that said, this is exactly what any person who has watched Gooden in his career should have expected. Drew Gooden is playing like Drew Gooden. But if he's used properly, he could still be an asset. Kinda like how Pop used Nazr in 2005, except a better offensive player and a worse defensive player.
Give him five minute bursts here and there where he can dominate the action. Don't expect any cohesion from him and don't expect him to do much defensively other than hopefully rebound. It's tricky but it's possible for Pop to get the good out of Gooden while living with the bad.
Like I've said the whole time, I like the idea of Gooden starting. Put him in the starting lineup and go to him early and often in both halves. That allows the Big Three to ease into the game and not have to dominate for 48 minutes. Obviously you don't want Gooden anywhere near a basketball court when the fourth quarter begins but at the beginning of both halves, he can help lessen the pressure.
Gooden off the bench just overwhelms the rest of the bench unit. It turns into Gooden vs. 5 on the offensive end. By putting him into the starting lineup, he's not going to overwhelm the better players on the team.
And finally, Gooden in the starting lineup would allow Pop to go with either Thomas or Bonner depending on what is needed. That way, it'd actually be possible to trim the bigman rotation down to three without completely taking one out of the mix.
Your hatred for Manu turns into delusion fairly quickly. You should see a professional.
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