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Amundson, Barbosa, Dragic, and Amare. Amare is still young enough to teach if you get the right coach.
Since today sealed their fate... Who do you keep?
Amundson? Barbosa? Will both nash and amare have to go or keep one? What about shaq and richardson? There's a lot of work to do. Does barnes come back? How about Hill?
Amundson, Barbosa, Dragic, and Amare. Amare is still young enough to teach if you get the right coach.
Keep everyone. The team's been playing historically good offense since the coaching change. You can't break up this great of an offensive team. You just have to have them buy into an "average defensive philosophy"
As 2001 showed w/ the Lakers and 2006 showed w/ the Mavs, you don't need elite defense to win a championship if your offense is efficient enough.
Shaq played well this year, but Amare didn't. Last year Amare played well but Shaq didn't. You have a fearsome front court if you have both playing well at the same time.
If it still isn't working out by trade deadline 2010, have a fire sale.
The one thing to watch out for is Shaq though. Players who have significant rises in production after the age of 28 typically come back down the Earth the next year (according to Hollinger). It could be possible Shaq reverts to 07-08 form next year.
^Too many old dogs to teach new tricks.
Can they get this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqoSdFdVlzo
I don't even know if Amare is worth keeping.
Jettison Nash, Richardson, Shaq.
Just start from scratch basically. PHX will literally have to rebuild from almost nothing. It's going to take a few years, but if they play their cards right they can be back in the thick of things as the Lakers start to decline.
Keep everyone. The team's been playing historically good offense since the coaching change. You can't break up this great of an offensive team. You just have to have them buy into an "average defensive philosophy"
As 2001 showed w/ the Lakers and 2006 showed w/ the Mavs, you don't need elite defense to win a championship if your offense is efficient enough.
Shaq played well this year, but Amare didn't. Last year Amare played well but Shaq didn't. You have a fearsome front court if you have both playing well at the same time.
If it still isn't working out by trade deadline 2010, have a fire sale.
The one thing to watch out for is Shaq though. Players who have significant rises in production after the age of 28 typically come back down the Earth the next year (according to Hollinger
your argument would make sense but...THE MAVS LOST!!!!
Jared Dudley.
Everybody else is expendable.
No they didn't. Basketball is a 5 v 5 game. 8 v 5 is not basketball therefore the Mavs did not lose.your argument would make sense but...THE MAVS LOST!!!!
nash for ai?
nash needs to go
he created chemistry problems and did not show respect to porter
amare is not going to get much in the market tell he proves he can see again in basketball games
shaq is stuck to do his contract
lol lakers decline? they havent even been to the top yet. Hopefully they dont blow the opportunity in the finals again. Best of luck.
If the aim is winning championships, they need to blow up this team and start from scratch. Rebuild with prospects and draft picks.
Nash and Shaq will be valuable expiring contracts next year. Trade them for cap space, youth, picks.
Amare: Depends on whether he wants to stay or bolt for greener pastures. The Knicks, among others, will have a ton of cap space and will likely sign at least one other big-name player (LeBron or Wade). Better to trade Amare for a few solid players and perhaps a pick.
Barbosa: Try and keep him, although he is terrible on D. He has the quickness and the range, and his defensive shortcomings can be masked if you have right inside shot-blocking presence. Of course, if the right deal came along you could package him with any of the aforementioned assets for some value in return.
Richardson: His contract will make it tough to trade him. He does have his athletic ability and skills, so you could keep him
Keep Amundson, Lopez and Dragic. Dragic seems to have some tools, best to let him develop while carrying a bad team (a la Kevin Martin in Sacto). Groom Amundson and Lopez as your bench bigs.
Try to resign Hill, although he might bolt to a team with better le prospects.
Barnes and Dudley: WGAF. They dont make much anyway.
It's probably going to take 3 years at the least and I'm not sure if Kerr is the right guy for the job.
All those years of dumping draft picks has really come home to roost. All you can hope for is to find the likes of Amare, Deng, Rondo, Rudy Fernandez or Sergio Rodriguez in the next 2-3 drafts.
I know plenty of fans might view ^this as a hater hating, but it's the right analysis.
First thing's first, take Barnes into the back, tie him to a chair, light his body on fire, and then shoot him like they did to that guy at the beginning of American Gangster.
Then here's where the dump truck does work. Nash, Shaq, and Amare all need to go. Only reason I include Shaq is because the only thing he has to offer next season is distractions. Nash and Amare have instilled a lethargic defense mentality and the only way we're getting rid of it is dumping both of them.
Dump Gentry, hire Avery Johnson.
I'd love to see J- get traded but I doubt anyone would want that contract, maybe Kerr will surprise us. I'm gonna assume he stays.
Barbosa needs to go as well. He has things he does well but he tries to force the issue way too much and is just too stupid to play a major role on a deep playoff team.
Refuse to resign Grant Hill because of how much you ed him with this crud roster.
Basically, the only asset this team has is the 14th pick in a crud draft and Goran Dragic. Yikes.
Trade Shaq to Burger King
And people like Pauls931 might call me a pessimist for that analysis, but I'm not one to sugarcoat things. Like it or not, and I don't in like it at all, this is what's on the Suns plate for 3-5 years. Deal with it, or go cheer for 76ers if you like 1st round exits every year.
Speaking of Sixers, they have some VERY nice young players. Williams, Young, and Speights. Iggy's only 25 too.
Is that Brand signing EVER gonna work out for them!? Will they resign Miller?! Decisions, decisions
If Brand doesn't work out my God they're ed, dudes getting paid big bucks until 2012-2013, would be a shame if that young talent is held back by the Brand cancer factor.
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I love Jared Dudley. He's my new Raja Bell.
Yeah keep Dudley too, I would have never thought Dudley would be a bigger asset than J- at the time of that trade.
Knowing Sarver, however much money can be saved, that's the way the team is gonna go. I think they're going to have to suck up Shaq's contract because I don't know that they can move him, but I think everyone else is fair game.
Stackhouse/Carroll for J-
Trade Amare for a first round pick (top 10). Trade Shaq just to get his contract out of the way. Get Hill out of there. Keep Barbosa, Amundon ,Dragic, Barnes. Just get all of the old players out and get new players in.
The shaq part has me worried whether anyone will take him on. Since contending next year is out of the question maybe the suns can risk giving him to a Lakers/Spurs or wherever lebron is at.
I love nash, but he'll probably bolt after having to put up with this management. Maybe he can try boston/GS. He's old enough that I'm not sure Dantoni would risk having him in NY since NY is rebuilding unless he's willing to have nash sculpture their next PG. (ideally that was supposed to be dragic)
Amare, I vote for keeping him too, he's still young, has playoff experience. (could of had more...)
Richardson, I like him, not as much as both Diaw and Bell, but I'd say keep him.
Dragic, yes after porter left, he's starting to show potential. Still needs a couple years of bk pg time.
Amundson, just pure hustle, keep him. But yes, he's a career bench role player.
Hill, I like him, he's been playing well outside of one catch. I wouldn't mind him staying, but I think he bolts for a contender.
Lopez... *sigh*
Dudley, not sure what to make of him, he seems to be able to hit the long ball so maybe he's worth keeping since management forgot that a dominant bigman needs shooters.
Barbosa, at this point, yes he's a must keep player. I've been wanting to trade him in the past(pre diaw and bell departing), but the way things have evolved, they must keep him now.
Barnes, I like some at ude and if he's cheap, keep him. for now...
Either way I can't pin this on a single player, but just the chemistry and effort requires a high turnover. And Kerr.... I vastly underestimated the impact of the shaq trade and so did he and everyone else. I thought they could continue to play smallball and just wait for shaq to come down if they could not strike quickly. Unfortunately, I think we just witnessed how good a perimeter defender marion was/is. Too bad he and Amare couldn't have got along...
Suns still plan to offer Nash a multi-year contract extension.
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