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    To some varying degree they already do. NBA players must get insurance in order to play in these compe ions. I'm not privy exactly to what kind of insurance that needs to be, specifically, but I do recall the CABB had to go knock on a few sponsor doors in order to get enough money to pay for Ginobili's insurance.
    That's interesting. I didn't know that. Thank you for posting.

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    I don't think Manu playing in the Olympics was necessarily his downfall this year.

    He was hurt in last year's playoffs. He was cleared by doctors to play in the summer, and was told that eventually the problem would happen and he'd need surgery. He knew that. The Spurs knew that. He was cleared medically and give permission by the team to go.

    Let's say that he didn't play in the Olympics and just stayed home to rest.

    Then training camp would come around, and sometime in the season, the injury would happen and he'd be sent off to have surgery DURING the season, then miss subsquent months in rehab.

    So, to me, either way Manu's 2008-09 NBA season was f'd up because of the injury that began in last year's playoffs... not because of the Olympics.

    I completely agree. It was bound to happen just a matter of when!

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    In fact, the Spurs told him they'd give him a $20M+ extension if he just didn't play for Argentina.
    I thought that was against nba rules?

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    I agree. International basketball has probably cost the Spurs at least one championship. Even though I understand the appeal, I'd be happy if international basketball ceased to exist. F it

    Regarding Manu, Harvey had a piece earlier this season that suggested Manu would have had the surgery in June or July if he hadn't gone to the Olympics. The MRIs at the time were showing that the injury wasn't healing ... but he was cleared because he supposedly couldn't hurt himself any further. Even if Manu would have returned without going down in Beijing, he was going under the knife anyways.

    So yeah, Manu gets the surgery in June or July. He returns by training camp. He slowly is able to prepare his body for the regular season instead of having to be thrown into the fire. And there's probably a decent to good chance that he doesn't suffer this current injury that appears to be an overcompensation injury.

    If you want to use even more hindsight, with Manu helping out all season, Duncan likely doesn't have to carry the team on his own and he's probably healthier than he is right now. So yeah, the latest round of international basketball screwed the Spurs something vicious.

    All that said, I don't blame Manu for playing for Argentina. TD would have played for the Virgin Islands in the same situation. TP would have played for France. Pop would coach for the US. Bowen would play for the US. David Robinson would and did play for the US. This team is good at winning because they don't back down for challenges and put nothing ahead of winning. Manu knew that he could lose millions upon millions of dollars by playing. In fact, the Spurs told him they'd give him a $20M+ extension if he just didn't play for Argentina. But, in true Spur fashion, the hunger of winning ultimately meant more to him than money.

    You blame Manu for playing, you go against the very fiber of the Spurs championship banners.














    But that doesn't mean I'd shed a tear if international basketball was outlawed


    well when spurs low ball him he better not rip the spurs and accept a very low salary he turned the money down to play in the games
    and he will pay now

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    well when spurs low ball him he better not rip the spurs and accept a very low salary he turned the money down to play in the games
    and he will pay now

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    I thought that was against nba rules?
    What part would be against the rules?

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    I think basketball players from other countries view international basketball as their own version of Soccer's World Cup. Obviously, basketball is not as popular worldwide as soccer, but I think the players have the same amount of pride and passion. This is what you are going to get with good international players, and all the whining on here isn't going to change a damn thing about it.

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    I don't see the Spurs negotiating anything with Manu until after his contract ends.

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    A Gold Medal representing my Country would mean more to me than an NBA le. But that is just me.
    that's total bull .
    an olympic medal means all compared to a championship ring.

    Im sure charles barkely wears his gold medal everywhere.

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    sorry for being off topic but HOLY CRAP 1 million posts????

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    sorry for being off topic but HOLY CRAP 1 million posts????
    Subtract 1 million. Then what you have left over is the total - 5000 repeated " I hate Spurs fans" posts.

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    that's total bull .
    an olympic medal means all compared to a championship ring.

    Im sure charles barkely wears his gold medal everywhere.
    I said for ME and I don't give a damn what charles barkley thinks.

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    jesus, what a nonsense.

    hey, why not close the NBA for international players?
    no more problems with players going to the olympics and world championships during summer.
    ah, and US sends only the college kids to this compe ions and tell the world that an olympics medal doesn't mean much. well, not in basketball. swimming still counts. or do you want that Michael Phelps also stays at home?

    and MB, of course your man Mr. Steven Gerrard also won't play for the national team any more. I will love to see the fans reaction around England when he declares his retirement from the team at 28, because he fears to get injured in international play. he won't need to leave Anfield to learn how being booed by 50.000 sounds. he will walk alone.

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    Subtract 1 million. Then what you have left over is the total - 5000 repeated " I hate Spurs fans" posts.
    I thought most of my posts were draft threads?

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    I thought most of my posts were draft threads?
    Even when you subtract 1 million, then another 5000, that still leaves a lot of good solid post by a wide margin.

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    jesus, what a nonsense.

    hey, why not close the NBA for international players?
    no more problems with players going to the olympics and world championships during summer.
    ah, and US sends only the college kids to this compe ions and tell the world that an olympics medal doesn't mean much. well, not in basketball. swimming still counts. or do you want that Michael Phelps also stays at home?
    The Olympics are the premiere event for swimming. In basketball, they are not.

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    jesus, what a nonsense.

    hey, why not close the NBA for international players?
    no more problems with players going to the olympics and world championships during summer.
    ah, and US sends only the college kids to this compe ions and tell the world that an olympics medal doesn't mean much. well, not in basketball. swimming still counts. or do you want that Michael Phelps also stays at home?
    Christ man I don't give a about Phelps.


    and MB, of course your man Mr. Steven Gerrard also won't play for the national team any more. I will love to see the fans reaction around England when he declares his retirement from the team at 28, because he fears to get injured in international play. he won't need to leave Anfield to learn how being booed by 50.000 sounds. he will walk alone.
    F English fans.

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    The surgically repaired ankle was fine. It was the
    OTHER ankle that gave out.
    Was that your point??

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    the Olympics. Don't give me any garbage about how much it means to Americans either after the way the country threw Michael Phelps under the bus for being photographed with a freaking bong.

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    The surgically repaired ankle was fine. It was the
    OTHER ankle that gave out.
    Was that your point??
    You don't believe that was an injury due to overcompensating one ankle for the other? That's the point. Another is that he could have started the healing process much earlier and avoided this mess.

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    that's total bull .
    an olympic medal means all compared to a championship ring.

    Im sure charles barkely wears his gold medal everywhere.
    Well, for US players, a gold medal was a bit of coronation more than a compe ion in the past. For an Argentinian, Slovenian, etc, I think a gold medal means more than an NBA le. For sure, it represents a bigger accomplishment.

    Now that a gold medal isn't an automatic, you can see the US players taking more pride in winning it. Still, most would probably view an NBA le has more significant.

    I think a lot of it is cultural.

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    In fact, the Spurs told him they'd give him a $20M+ extension if he just didn't play for Argentina.

    Has this been confirmed somewhere? I could see the Spurs making an offer like this, but I just haven't seen it reported anywhere.

    And BTW, I agree. I cannot fault Manu or any of the guys for playing in the Olympics. They are simply putting their countries ahead of their jobs.

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    Why?? What a BS. Its a matter of pride to play for your country, you dont want foreign players to play for their Nt's but you dont mind americans playing for usa team?? lol

    It's great we have national teams and its wonderful big players in the nba want and can play for the national teams. That sometimes one of those players comes out of nt games with a injury, well, that's just bad luck. it could have happen in other games too.

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    Why?? What a BS. Its a matter of pride to play for your country, you dont want foreign players to play for their Nt's but you dont mind americans playing for usa team?? lol

    It's great we have national teams and its wonderful big players in the nba want and can play for the national teams. That sometimes one of those players comes out of nt games with a injury, well, that's just bad luck. it could have happen in other games too.
    What part of "No Spur Should Ever Play For Their National Team Again" does not include US players?

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    Why?? What a BS. Its a matter of pride to play for your country, you dont want foreign players to play for their Nt's but you dont mind americans playing for usa team?? lol
    Had Lebron, Kobe, or any of the other franchise players on last year's team blown an ACL, you would be hearing alot more complaints from the American side...

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