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  1. #26
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    We need to resign Kidd if we wanna try and turn this sinking ship around IMO.

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    Wow, you really don't know basketball. Lack of post scoring has been the biggest thorn in the Mavericks' side for years.
    Yup it was the 06 and 07 season too huh? Wasn't that how Phoenix thought Shaq would solve their problem? You can't just look at it on paper and say you are lacking post scoring. The fact is it opens up a lot of lanes for you as well. That is phoenix's problem. They can't get easy looks and easy transition baskets because of it.

    Loading meaningless talent won't do anything for you. I said that about the suns and the mavs last season.

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    First you said the Suns were contenders

    Then you said Amare > Dirk

    Then you compared T-Mac's affect on his team to Manu's on teh Spurs

    And now this bull

    Shut the up.
    Nothing needs to be said to this post.

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    I'm not a huge fan of Kidd in Dallas, but if we lose him were REALLY ed.

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    i think he wants to come back, but rumor has i think the Lakers will try and throw some money his way. the Lakers would be even more dominant if that happened
    Kidd is an obvious upgrade over what the Lakers have now, but I don't know if he is a true Tri point guard.

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    What are the chances of the Lakers throwing enough money at Kidd to lure him away?

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    Yup it was the 06 and 07 season too huh? Wasn't that how Phoenix thought Shaq would solve their problem? You can't just look at it on paper and say you are lacking post scoring. The fact is it opens up a lot of lanes for you as well. That is phoenix's problem. They can't get easy looks and easy transition baskets because of it.

    Loading meaningless talent won't do anything for you. I said that about the suns and the mavs last season.
    I'm pretty sure mavfans know what his team has been missing over the years, and it's not a pg.

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    Regardless of what happens to Kidd, we need a PG in the draft. Eric Maynor might still be around when the Mavs pick, but his draft stock is probably going to start going up. Brandon Jennings might start falling since he sucks in Europe.

    Ty Lawson will probably be there, but please let someone else make that mistake.

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    Please let it happen as if they mavs aren't already a bunch of loose screws. What that team needs is a better PG, not a better C. Bring back Devin or a PG that can shoot lights out, didn't you guys see how good you played vs phoenix when Kidd was shooting well?
    Devin Harris shoots lights out?

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    Yup it was the 06 and 07 season too huh? Wasn't that how Phoenix thought Shaq would solve their problem? You can't just look at it on paper and say you are lacking post scoring. The fact is it opens up a lot of lanes for you as well. That is phoenix's problem. They can't get easy looks and easy transition baskets because of it.

    Loading meaningless talent won't do anything for you. I said that about the suns and the mavs last season.
    You ing moron. It was exactly the problem in 06 and 07. Lack of a balanced scoring threat allowed Miami to smother the out of Dirk. And in 07, the reason Golden State beat us was because they were allowed to send out a high powered lineup of guards and run all over the place without the drawback of being punished at the other end. That's how you beat a team of guards, you pound the ball inside and make them pay, otherwise they'll simply just burn you at the other end.

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    if kidd wants a le he will come to the lakers. if he wants a paycheck he will stay with the mavericks for the full MLE. his choice

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    You ing moron. It was exactly the problem in 06 and 07. Lack of a balanced scoring threat allowed Miami to smother the out of Dirk. And in 07, the reason Golden State beat us was because they were allowed to send out a high powered lineup of guards and run all over the place without the drawback of being punished at the other end. That's how you beat a team of guards, you pound the ball inside and make them pay, otherwise they'll simply just burn you at the other end.
    Yup and your theory is obviously proven correct due to what you guys were saying about Kidd being an "Obvious " upgrade. Maybe Shaq can help. Chances are he's not though. He is still a monster but hes at that point in his career where he will do best as more of a 2nd or 3rd man.

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    if he wants a paycheck he will stay with the mavericks for the full MLE.
    Cuban's going to offer him much more than that. Yeah, I know.

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    Yup and your theory is obviously proven correct due to what you guys were saying about Kidd being an "Obvious " upgrade. Maybe Shaq can help. Chances are he's not though. He is still a monster but hes at that point in his career where he will do best as more of a 2nd or 3rd man.
    What do you think he'll be in Dallas? He's not going to Dallas to have the offense revolve around him. This isn't Phoenix. Amare's not good or smart enough to have a team run through him so it had to go through Shaq.

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    Yup and your theory is obviously proven correct due to what you guys were saying about Kidd being an "Obvious " upgrade. Maybe Shaq can help. Chances are he's not though. He is still a monster but hes at that point in his career where he will do best as more of a 2nd or 3rd man.
    Either way, we need low post scoring. If Shaq can't provide that, then it's another failed experiment. It's too hard to overcompensate for lack of a post threat, it opens things up for everyone. We don't have the talent to compensate for that, and Shaq would make things easier for everyone, especially Dirk.

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    Shaq never fit in with the Suns. He'd fit in just fine with the Mavericks. The Mavs play a traditional lineup, and after all, we're trying to roll with Erick Dampier at Center right now. Shaq is an easy upgrade over that.

    Not saying we're le contenders with Shaq, but we'd definitely move up in the standings with him.

    But he's not coming to Dallas.

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    What do you think he'll be in Dallas? He's not going to Dallas to have the offense revolve around him. This isn't Phoenix. Amare's not good or smart enough to have a team run through him so it had to go through Shaq.
    What was he supposed to be in phoenix? He claimed he was going to be a 3rd or 4th man and he was already complaining about touches halfway through the season.

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    Either way, we need low post scoring. If Shaq can't provide that, then it's another failed experiment. It's too hard to overcompensate for lack of a post threat, it opens things up for everyone. We don't have the talent to compensate for that, and Shaq would make things easier for everyone, especially Dirk.
    True. If you are looking at it that way yea, i can understand. The approach of "We aren't going anywhere so might as well" justifies it a lot better. But the fact that he could catapult you 4 seeds up is just false.

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    What was he supposed to be in phoenix? He claimed he was going to be a 3rd or 4th man and he was already complaining about touches halfway through the season.
    All Carlisle has to do is motivate Shaq to go for offensive rebounds. Because with the brick factory the Mavs are right now, Shaq will have so many putback opportunities it's not even funny. It's really a shame he won't be coming to Dallas.

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    True. If you are looking at it that way yea, i can understand. The approach of "We aren't going anywhere so might as well" justifies it a lot better. But the fact that he could catapult you 4 seeds up is just false.
    If he plays like he has late this season for Phoenix then he could definately put us in the mix, if we're able to also move Josh for another swingman of equal value. What's interesting about it is the way Shaq and Dirk's game compliments eachother perfectly. Shaq dominates the low post, while Dirk dominates the high post. Shaq is simply too strong to be guarded one on one inside, you have to double down and make him pick up his dribble, so that means teams can no longer double team Dirk. He might average 32 ppg.

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    Am I the only one that's a fan of luring in Ramon Sessions?

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    Am I the only one that's a fan of luring in Ramon Sessions?
    That guy has put up some insane stats when given minutes. He ended last season by averaging close to 20 and 20 in his last 8 games or so, it was insane.

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    I wonder how great Sessions really is when he's fighting for minutes with Luke Ridnour, and oftentimes he's put at SG while Ridnour runs the point....but I'd still like to see the Mavs go after him. He can fill up a stat sheet with the quickness.

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    btw I'm having a really gay evening. For whatever reason I downloaded that Katy Perry song that's all "you're hot then you're cold, you're yes then you're no" and I've got it on repeat. so so so so so gay. I have no idea why I'm sharing this.

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    btw I'm having a really gay evening. For whatever reason I downloaded that Katy Perry song that's all "you're hot then you're cold, you're yes then you're no" and I've got it on repeat. so so so so so gay. I have no idea why I'm sharing this.
    neat song.

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