It depends on whether you include Amare on the roster
PG - Steve "I feel like Kidd's wife after his beating" Nash
SG - J-
SF - Grant "No one else cares" Hill
PF - Amare "gorilla " emire
C - Shaquille "The Nash lovers hate me cause I'm not an emo like Marion" O'neal
Seems pretty stacked.
LOL @ the 35-43 Bobcats being better than the Suns right now. The Suns would be the 5th seed if they played in the East, or better since they'd play the Eastern Conference teams more than the West. Give me a break.
Porter had a full roster at his disposal and didn't know how to best utilize what he had, while Gentry has created an extremely potent offense without two of his most explosive scorers. Amare and Barbosa have been out with injury for most of Gentry's tenure. Anyone who's watched the Suns recently would say they're better under Gentry, regardless of how bad the defense is sometimes. It's like night and day.
What do you have against fat girls, huh?
It's not Porter's fault the players hated him from the get-go. It's what you get when a bunch of fans blindly support a player and put pressure on the GM to keep the player happy at all costs.
The Suns were 11-5 under Porter when Nash decided to say he wasn't having enough fun and that he wanted to have more fun. The fans quickly backlash against Porter for no reason and go into "Poor Widdle Stevie" mode and the season quickly falls apart once more than half the locker room decides having fun is more important than listening to the coach.
When a GM enables a player to have more power in the locker room than the coach, bad things will always happens. That's the case with the Suns right now.
Congrates to Gentry, he's figured out a system which enables his team to run up the score against the Clippers, Wizards, Thunder and Kings. GENIUS!!!!
Steve Nash is a great player and a first ballot hall of famer
That makes sense because a little sissy cuckold fairy like you would like an emo- player who decided to and moan like a baby rather than just do what he agreed to do (play basketball for the team paying him) after his gay lover got traded to Charlotte.Steve Nash is a great player and a first ballot hall of famer
Great ing player, and should've been an NBA Champion in 2003 if Dirk didn't get hurt.
He took over a team in turmoil 2/3 of the way into the season, a team anchored by three ancient players (Nash, Hill, and O'Neal) with Matt ing Barnes playing the 4-spot. The Suns have beaten the Jazz, Nuggets, Rockets, and Hornets in the last two weeks and change, proving they can beat winning teams.
DOK, for someone who calls himself a Suns fan, there are very few members on this board who dislike the Phoenix Suns more than you do. Maybe you should give basketball a break, or pick a new team already.
Disliking the Suns and disliking the players on the Suns are two completely different things. I'm not saying Porter is a good coach, I'm saying we'll never know what kind of coach he is because he never had players who listened to him.
It's not like I'm constantly criticizing a 60 win team, I'm criticizing a team that sucks and has absolutely no future, forgive me for being a little pissed off about it.
And it's not like I hate every player. There are plenty of players on this team that I will miss (Hill, Shaq) once they're gone.
How can you hate the two time MVP
It happens to the best of us. Every franchise has a peak and a decline.
The Timberwolves were solid for a few years and went into the ter.
Mavs/Spurs/Pistons have experienced declines this year (Mavs last as well) despite being Top 5-6 teams in the league for a good portion of the decade.
Those Nets teams, those Kings teams, it happens.
You just gotta look back, and remember the good times. I'm sad about the Mavs decline myself, but I'm not mad a the players. They gave us Mavs fans the joy ride of a 2006 NBA Championship,. We may have no immediate future, but we do have a past. which is more than some teams can say.
Conclusions: ing great player
Okay, then why hate on Gentry? It's difficult for an interim coach to have a lot of success so late in the season. Porter might be a good coach, but he's a horrible fit for this team. He tried to stuff a roster of square pegs into round holes and rightfully got fired for it. Reports are that he wasn't a very good leader, wasn't respected by the players, and was a large reason why the locker room atmosphere was so toxic. Under Porter, it was like watching the Suns play in a graveyard.
nothing...
By fat I mean morbidly obese.....I actually like Jennifer Hudson. I have nothing against a thick chick, when I say fat.....I mean FAT.
How fat are you, yourself?
sons even though last night they gave us the with no lube .... I must say to the MOTHA ING NO
I guess my hatred towards Gentry is unwarranted, it's more my hatred towards the crud basketball I'm watching and the veteran players on this team that have been acting like 5 year olds all season. That coupled with the GM that has acted like the crappy parent who decides to give the 5 year old whatever he wants just to make him stop crying rather than ignoring the 5 year old's temper tantrum so he eventually thinks crying won't get him .
So yeah Gentry does fit this group better and in the short term it was undoubtedly beneficial to hire him, but was it really smart to send the players the message that if you complain enough about a coach that makes you play defense we'll fire him and hire a coach who won't hold you accountable for D?
I'm not pissed about the Porter Gentry change because of some weird opinion I have that Porter > Gentry. Gentry is, when you factor in everything, a better coach than Porter. Porter's defensive scheme and half court offensive scheme blew complete and were easily scored on/defended. Gentry's D is horrible but not a whole lot worse than Porter's.
I'm pissed about the change because I think it only perpetuates the "Having fun is more important than doing what the coach tells you to do" mentality. If Porter is still coach, they still would be missing the playoff's regardless, and yeah it would have been PAINFUL to watch for the rest of the season, but at that point the players would have started to play defense and started to play within the offense knowing that whining about it will get them nowhere.
Again, their lack of effort and execution at the end keeps me from even considering then a best 9th seed of all time. And let me guess without going back, dok has about 10 nash sucks posts...
After that Dallas game I sure as don't have 10 Nash 4 MVP!!! posts.
How can you hate the two time MVP
It happens to the best of us. Every franchise has a peak and a decline.
The Timberwolves were solid for a few years and went into the ter.
Mavs/Spurs/Pistons have experienced declines this year (Mavs last as well) despite being Top 5-6 teams in the league for a good portion of the decade.
Those Nets teams, those Kings teams, it happens.
You just gotta look back, and remember the good times. I'm sad about the Mavs decline myself, but I'm not mad a the players. They gave us Mavs fans the joy ride of a 2006 NBA Championship,. We may have no immediate future, but we do have a past. which is more than some teams can say.
Conclusions: ing great player
In sports, the question is "what have you done for me lately?"
Nash has done nothing significant the past two seasons. His season in 2006 and 2007 means compared to 2008 and 2009.
And whether or not Nash is a great player, he's made it pretty clear he doesn't have the hunger for a championship the best player on a championship team needs.
no, they are now in the position they belong to….. what’s the point of making it to the play offs if you get you ass kicked by the Spurs every time…. Now that the Spurs are banged… they don’t even get the 8 seedthat’s hilarious.
Other than pride, what are the financial awards to a franchise for winning the le? More games played? I sometimes wonder if some franchise owners are perfectly happy with getting to the second round of the playoffs... In phoenix's case they get booted in the first round, then all breaks loose.no, they are now in the position they belong to….. what’s the point of making it to the play offs if you get you ass kicked by the Spurs every time…. Now that the Spurs are banged… they don’t even get the 8 seed
Some owners maybe but I still think winning a le does so much for the franchise's publicity and image that it makes them more money than being a 3-7 seed every year.
Good point, probably sponsorship, jersey sales and so forth.
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