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why'd you ask for "your expert opinion" if you didn't want it?
And you compared doctors to patients.
why'd you ask for "your expert opinion" if you didn't want it?
It was a leading question to show you are, in fact, not an expert.why'd you ask for "your expert opinion" if you didn't want it?
Thanks for the follow through.
I've created a monster.
Are you an expert?
what's your problem with what is said in this thread ? do you have some member of your family who works in the spurs medical staff ?
if we need to be doctors ourselves to even say a word about the medical staff, i guess anyone who dare to criticize any Pop's choice needs to have coached basketball at the highest level. your agument doesn't make sense.
they probably kinda sucked on Mahinmi and the unease which could be seen then about this stuff seemed to confirm that.
after this ... I suspect those docs are Mav's fan
I wouldn't be so hard to be a doc, just need to read some books and speak complicated
And in the VERY next post
I'd say that was a comment on the Spurs medical staff, and NOT a figment of my imagination or an invention
It's an overall symptom of the decline of this board. It's not just the medical staff, who have to train for like 10 years. Everyone on this board thinks they're smarter than the Spurs coaching staff, and know more physics than Hawking. They just to , not because they know anything themselves.
How is that a comment on the spurs staff, and not a mere statement of fact?
Because you're not a doctor in a position to render a second opinion?How is that a comment on the spurs staff, and not a mere statement of fact?
what the are you talking about?Because you're not a doctor in a position to render a second opinion?
How can I be in a position to render a second opinion, when I have not stated my opinion on the matter oncesoever?
Explain how this is a comment on the abilities of the Spurs Medical Staff:
I went to the trouble of finding the definition to a word you clearly don't understand. You don't have to thank me.
1joke
Pronunciation:
\ˈjōk\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Latin jocus; perhaps akin to Old High German gehan to say, Sanskrit yācati he asks
Date:
1670
1 a: something said or done to provoke laughter ; especially : a brief oral narrative with a climactic humorous twist b (1): the humorous or ridiculous element in something (2): an instance of jesting : kidding <can't take a joke> c: practical joke d: laughingstock
2: something not to be taken seriously : a trifling matter <consider his skiing a joke — Harold Callender> —often used in negative constructions <it is no joke to be lost in the desert>
The Spurs Medical Staff misdiagnosed Mahinmi. If you want to imply it wasn't their fault that's fine, but the fact remains.
If you have that little grasp on the English language, I can't help you with this, but if you polled 100 random posters on this board, the verdict against you would be somewhere in the 90s.
make your poll, and quickly find out its you who does not understand English.
DUNCANownsKOBE, I think both of our responses have gone over his head.
1 vote for Ecstatic and Chumpdumper.
The burden of proof lies on the side of those people who claim that the Spurs Medical Staff screwed up. This means that you must prove that with the knowledge that they had in hand at the time, their medical diagnosis and treatments were unjustifiable and clearly wrong or that they should have been able to obtain better information and then make the correct diagnosis and prescribe the correct treatments.
So far, I don't think that anyone here has come close to meeting the burden of proving either one of those things.
The exploratory surgery was the only way to learn about Ian's condition. So, the only way to obtain better and more accurate information was to order the exploratory surgery sooner. So, you have to prove that the exploratory surgery was far later than it should have been and that the Spurs medical staff had sufficient information at the time to know it (ie they should have known it but didn't).
There's plenty more work where that came from. But that will keep you busy for some years to come.
My bad. It's not your lack of English language skills, it's your astounding ing arrogance, z0sa. You think that if you say it, it's a fact, and not a comment, in spite of the fact that you have no medical training and are not a doctor.
I think so.
I guess I shouldn't be making jokes like that less than a week after Manu's injury or some of the more uptight people on this board will throw a temper tantrum.
You were joking, which I missed. Unfortunately, Dr. z0sa think's it's opinion is fact, and that I did NOT miss.
I guess I shouldn't be making jokes like that less than a week after Manu's injury or some of the more uptight people on this board will throw a temper tantrum.
If you state an opinion long enough it becomes a fact. Haven't you learned that already?
Who needs medical training anyway. It's not like those people study for years to become a doctor. All you have to do is become famous and they'll give you an honorary doctorate. Or you could just play one on TV.
BTW that looks like a comment on the Spurs Medical Staff. You see, when you write the words "Spurs Medical Staff" and then follow it up with a comment, well, you know, if it looks like a duck...
my astounding arrogance? this is ridiculous.
you do know that Mahinmi really was misdiagnosed, don't you?
maybe providing an article on the issue will refresh your memory?
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/M...-10_weeks.html
Hmm ... so before the surgery was done, they actually did not know what the problem was. Common knowledge, or so I thought . . .
Only one problem: the bone fragment. Not an ankle sprain that 'rest' would heal. Isn't this what you would call a misdiagnosis?The arthroscopic procedure revealed no other cartilage defects throughout Mahinmi's ankle or distal tibia.
Again, these are facts, not opinions I'm stating. Why am I so ing arrogant, as to say there could be merit to the argument??
Here's Pop's reasonings and thoughts:
They couldn't find the problem and approached the problem in a couple different ways (including another D-League stinti feel sorry for Ian's ankle. This clearly shows that there's some reason to question the team's health decisions) but, according to Doctor ChumpDumper, it was their last option so they decided to wait out this "ankle sprain" as long as they could.
Cut through the BS, what you all are claiming is that the Spurs staff is incompetent. THis is just irresponsible. Furthermore, if every test conducted doesn't find a problem, and you claim you don't know what's wrong, that's not a misdiagnosis.
It was called a sprained ankle after test revealed nothing. More test revealed nothing. At one point, the Spurs claimed they didn't know what was wrong. Since a single test they were doing revealed nothing, you can't claim to find something if nothing was to be found. Finally as a last resort they did the surgery and low and behold there it was.
As for Gino, he has a history of lying about injuries, just like Duncan and Robinson before him. If a test says the player is okay, and the player lies and claims he's okay and pain free, what do you propose a doctor do to make sure he's not lying?
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