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no..I don't see any reason to think he'll get anything more than spot minutes once in a while..
I'm seriously interested in hearing what the rest of you think. Has Pop settled on Mason as the backup PG? Is Hill going to get any minutes in the playoffs, other than garbage time, or maybe a 2-4 minute defensive stint? I know the injuries have forced Pop to be playing with rotations this late in the season, but it looks to me like George is in the basement of the doghouse.
So the question isn't whether you think Hill should be getting minutes at the point, but "Do you think Pop will give him any minutes from here on out?"
no..I don't see any reason to think he'll get anything more than spot minutes once in a while..
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You scared me with that le
Only way Hill gets back into the rotation is if Pop gets desperate and the Spurs are about to get eliminated.
So you're telling me there's a chance!
It's a shame. He would've really bolstered our bench. He went from being a great back-up PG to a specialist 4th quarter stopper for a few games. Now he's treated like garbage. He must've had some really awful practices to deserve this.
Yeap, I don't see him having any significant role this year, but I am very excited to see him next year.
I say he goes:
Pts 11
Reb 4
Ast 3
Like it or not, it looks like Mason is the backup PG and Hill's minutes are gonna be spotty. The offense is at a disadvantage with Mason as backup because we have no one who can penetrate and kick out; he's also not the best ball handler.
Mason had a great game tonight though, and he's not struggling as much as earlier in the season. However, I think Hill has the ability to get to the rim and either score or find the open man. When Tony finds Roger in this manner, he is highly effective and we saw that happen alot tonight.
Spurs need RMJ to have more games like this. Hill has been relegated to spot minutes. He's not 'done' but he isn't at the level he should be IMO for a host of reasons.
He might get minutes tommarow night.
Doubtfull though.
Beno Udrih ruined George Hill's chances.
Mason has actually looked good as the backup PG in every game since Manu returned..
the only thing I want Hill for is his D, because it would be a huge asset..
at least we got to see his potential this year..very nice for a guy still learning how to convert to the PG position in the NBA..
You could tell midway through March when he got yanked out of the usual rotation that he was gonna warm up the bench. Now, if I'm George, I have no regrets and nothing to feel bad about. I thought he had a very good rookie season. And everything he experiences during the playoffs is going to be great for him.
I disagree. I actually thought he was pretty horrible tonight.
I don't think Hill will get significant minutes in the playoffs.
Hill is done, and I don't know why really, the guy played some solid D and aside from not looking for his shot played well, not great but held his own. Does anyone know what exactly he did so wrong to have gone from a promising backup to a DNP-CD regular.
it depends what you mean..
he's NEVER going to look good as a pure PG..he can't make passes, and he doesn't penetrate well enough..
I didn't mean he looked good as a PG, I meant he's been playing well since Manu's been out, even when he's been playing the PG position..
He's just been having more minutes... about 10 more minutes, and the ball in his hands more. He's been taking more shots too, obviously. He's still a good shooter, there's no denying that. But as a playmaker, whenever Tony goes to the bench there's a major drop. Like you said, he can't penetrate or make passes, which are the main functions of a PG. We're basically reduced to a pick n roll offense and three point shots when he's running the show. The moment some team realizes they can pressure him and get the ball out of his hands, we're done offensively.
While Mason looked bad as the back up point tonight I thought he looked great as the back up point against Utah.
He was just looking for his shot alot tonight wich IMO is a great thing.
Roger Mason Jr is in a good groove right now and hope it keeps goin.
Plus short of George Hill (whose defense is great, but playmaking abilities are suspect) and Vaughn (please retire already), we don't really have anybody else. So we really don't have much of a choice.
I don't see how playing Hill would be a mark of desperation. No doubt Pop thinks it is, but completely freezing out player who has performed adequately during the regular season might be seen to be a bit strange, rather than desperate. Hill's not that bad a player to rank as a desperation move.
At any rate, we are desperate. We're firmly in "it's gonna take a miracle" mode. With Manu out, we'll have to depend on folks stepping up. Why limit our options at this point, what have we got to lose?
Hill is not Beno, and will not meltdown in the playoffs...or will he? We'll never get the chance to find out, because Pop seems to be frozen in fear and stubborness.
Fact is, if we've got any chance at the "believe" scenario, we'll need contributions from EVERYONE, including Hill.
I don't think Hill gets a serious role this year, but I have the feeling he will give one go0d spark in this playoff run. Just a hunch.
Yeah, if teams in the playoffs really pressure Mason he could end up looking like Udrih v2.0. Let's just hope his shot continues to drop. His shooting was cold-blooded tonight.
Weird observation on Hill - about 30 minutes after the Utah game I saw him standing by himself up in the Mezzanine section. Most players that were still around were talking to fans or friends they knew who had stuck around. Hill was like 30 rows up by himself. Not sure what he was doing. It looked sort of sad, but maybe he was just reflecting on his season so far, or something.
Shortening the rotation for the playoffs is a standard move - however, Pop's getting too cute with it.
However, when you don't have a full complement of players, you might just have to go a little bit farther down your rotation - that's also also standard basketball 101, isn't it?
We're going to need some heroics, but Pop has concluded that Hill doesn't deserve a chance. Hope our short-handed veteran squad is up to it. No rookies allowed in Pop's playoff plans, brilliant!
Last edited by Capt Bringdown; 04-13-2009 at 12:01 AM.
Uhm, whats he getting cute with?
Isn't shortening your bench basketball 101 as well?
You know Hills got a chance with this guy at the helm.
John Lucas > Pop
Yeah Fabbs we got it, you hate pop because he ran over your dog.
Time to move on.
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