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    These freight companies need to get on board with that sonic defense system. A ing Seabourne cruise ship drove off TWO boatloads of pirates a couple of weeks back. sounds like a bomb going off in your head, repeatedly. You want it to stop and do anything to make it stop, .


    or they can just play song from this band.


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    Whats most important here is that they negotiated for these guys to be brought to justice. Obviously the core mission wasn't to do whatever it took to free our guy. Preventative maintenance took priority one. Niiiice.

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    Whats most important here is that they negotiated for these guys to be brought to justice. Obviously the core mission wasn't to do whatever it took to free our guy. Preventative maintenance took priority one. Niiiice.


    What if negotiation was required to buy time to get the snipers and special forces in place?

    hmm?

    What if negotiation actually had freed the guy first?

    Hmm?

    If by "whatever it took" you mean recklessly attempting to storm the boat and risking the captains life unnecessarily, I'm glad your dumb ass wasn't in charge.

    There is a vast difference between negotiating and giving in to demands of criminals. When people suggest that somehow taking advantage of decades of experience with hostage negotiating is "weak", I find that to be the mark of someone who has little to no knowledge of such things.

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    What if negotiation was required to buy time to get the snipers and special forces in place?

    hmm?

    What if negotiation actually had freed the guy first?

    Hmm?

    If by "whatever it took" you mean recklessly attempting to storm the boat and risking the captains life unnecessarily, I'm glad your dumb ass wasn't in charge.

    There is a vast difference between negotiating and giving in to demands of criminals. When people suggest that somehow taking advantage of decades of experience with hostage negotiating is "weak", I find that to be the mark of someone who has little to no knowledge of such things.
    hmm?

    What if?

    Lots of those.

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    hmm?

    What if?

    Lots of those.
    Indeed there were. That you didn't seem to consider them tells me that your thinking on the subject was... limited.

    What if "the core mission wasn't to do whatever it took to free our guy?"

    You rather obviously assumed that "whatever it took" didn't include negotiation, correct?

    Maybe I misunderstood you there, and you can correct my understanding of your post.

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    Indeed there were. That you didn't seem to consider them tells me that your thinking on the subject was... limited.

    What if "the core mission wasn't to do whatever it took to free our guy?"

    You rather obviously assumed that "whatever it took" didn't include negotiation, correct?

    Maybe I misunderstood you there, and you can correct my understanding of your post.
    Nope you didn't misunderstand me. I think you made a good point on my half-assed off the cuff comment.

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    Nope you didn't misunderstand me. I think you made a good point on my half-assed off the cuff comment.

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    Dammit man, what kind of a total internets noob are you?

    Admitting you were wrong on the internet like that, I mean, that just isn't done. It says right here in the "Forum Warrior's Guide to Internet Pissing Contests For Noobs, 2008 edition" on page 3, "Don't ever admit you were wrong about anything".

    Sheesh. I had a whole childish tirade all ready to go with cleverly witty sarcastic remarks, pictures that had little circles and arrows, and you go and blow all of that hard work to by being mature about it.

    Seriously though, sorry I was a bit pissy about it.

    I have seen a couple real idiots (like a real estate agent with no military/naval expertise) talking about how stupid it was that we actually negotiated with these guys when we should have just gone in guns blazing, like this is some Hollywood movie they saw the other day, and it made me a bit irritated and less civil than I should have been.

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    Dammit man, what kind of a total internets noob are you?

    Admitting you were wrong on the internet like that, I mean, that just isn't done. It says right here in the "Forum Warrior's Guide to Internet Pissing Contests For Noobs, 2008 edition" on page 3, "Don't ever admit you were wrong about anything".

    Sheesh. I had a whole childish tirade all ready to go with cleverly witty sarcastic remarks, pictures that had little circles and arrows, and you go and blow all of that hard work to by being mature about it.

    Seriously though, sorry I was a bit pissy about it.

    I have seen a couple real idiots (like a real estate agent with no military/naval expertise) talking about how stupid it was that we actually negotiated with these guys when we should have just gone in guns blazing, like this is some Hollywood movie they saw the other day, and it made me a bit irritated and less civil than I should have been.
    I don't admit I'm wrong or admit that might have commented too quickly without putting enough thought into it very often. Its totally out of character for me.

    If you ask Kori to delete our posts we can start over tomorrow. There's a pretty good chance no one will know and I can say something way worse and way more out of line. With any luck we can take this two page snoozefest into a 20 page internet battle for the ages.

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    I don't admit I'm wrong or admit that might have commented too quickly without putting enough thought into it very often. Its totally out of character for me.

    If you ask Kori to delete our posts we can start over tomorrow. There's a pretty good chance no one will know and I can say something way worse and way more out of line. With any luck we can take this two page snoozefest into a 20 page internet battle for the ages.
    Don't forget to bring up religion and legalizing marijuana while you're at it.

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    Don't forget to bring up religion and legalizing marijuana while you're at it.
    I really dropped the ball here didn't I.

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    Don't forget to bring up religion and legalizing marijuana while you're at it.
    I'm glad you posted here, because no thread about sailors would be complete without a picture of naked man-ass.

    ... says the guy who was in the Army.

    This we'll defend.

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    That's why my favorite PS2 game was the Socom Navy seals series


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    Damn. These Somali pirates just don't get the job done. What we need are some Xe agents to pose as pirates so that the U.S. gets a more embarrassing outcome.

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