Spurs Talk Fantasy Baseball 09

[Thunder Dan]

And I'm not really a waiver wire Nazi by the way. I had two guys go on the DL and have simply been trying to pick up a run scorer...yeah I started an extra pitcher this week, after Truth picked up 4 of them, but since I had a pitcher go on the DL at the begnning of the week anyway it's not like I was boosting those stats.

I didn't even start half the guys I picked up on the waiver wire..


Besides, it never hurts to clear other people out of your way in the waiver claim order.

it's just a game man let it go

[Melmart1]

I vote that Whott is taking this too seriously and needs to chill the F out and

Says the man who threatened to quit and demanded his money back like a petulant child

Hopefully, this "strategy" will blow up in the faces of those that use it, because I find it to be rather desperate. It did allow Dan to steal K's from me by two strikeouts. Too bad the other half of this "strategy" ... winning all the offensive categories because you neglected to draft a pitching staff in order to bulk up on offense -- didn't work. He still lost two of the categories. And not just any two, but the two that truly show your offensive muscle -- home runs and RBIs.

Each Hit!

[Thunder Dan]

Says the man who threatened to quit and demanded his money back like a petulant child

Hopefully, this "strategy" will blow up in the faces of those that use it, because I find it to be rather desperate. It did allow Dan to steal K's from me by two strikeouts. Too bad the other half of this "strategy" ... winning all the offensive categories because you neglected to draft a pitching staff in order to bulk up on offense -- didn't work. He still lost two of the categories. And not just any two, but the two that truly show your offensive muscle -- home runs and RBIs.

Each Hit!

well I have a point. I drafted my team and planned my strategy based on the rules set at the start of the season. You can't all of a sudden change the rules once 2 people don't like what is going on. That would be like the NFL saying in the middle of August that you are no longer allowed to pass the ball. It's the same thing. Some teams rely only on the pass, or they drafted a QB, and now you are saying they can't do that when they prepared to play a certain way. So if you are going to take away my strategy which is well within the rules stated at the start of the season, then yes I want my money back or I'll just place all my good players on waivers and let whoever I want to win (not Whott or Melmart) know exactly when I'll do it. How is that for pouting?


And my strategy will work over the long run. The only reason you beat me in 2 others is because 3 of your scrubs had career weeks. Sorry but Span, Kinsler, and Ibanez will not out RBI and HR Manny, Magglio, and Uttley all season long. It took the Rangers putting up like 40 runs in a week to beat me. That won't happen. All this week proved is even when my team plays like crap, I still have 3 categories written in stone before they even start

[whottt]

I vote that Whott is taking this too seriously and needs to chill the F out and stoping bringing everyone down by telling people what do do and being controlling and no fun

Whott is debbie downer

Whatever, I don't know if you can read or not but you just had the major prac ioner of the strategy you are attempting, tell you that it won't win a championship.


The funny thing is he made the playoffs his first year with nothing but Dominicans and the secondy year playing it straight and then switched to that strategy in the playoffs both times and I think it ended up hurting his team both times. I mean both times he a playoff team and then jettisoned his pitching in an attempt to win W and K and my guess is he lost both times due to not having a pitching staff.


Just trying to help you have a better life.


I can tell you got off to a rough start by the fact you idolize Dan Majerle.

I mean what, was the usernic, "loser", already taken or something?

[Thunder Dan]

Whatever, I don't know if you can read or not but you just had the major prac ioner of the strategy you are attempting, tell you that it won't win a championship.


The funny thing is he made the playoffs his first year with nothing but Dominicans and the secondy year playing it straight and then switched to that strategy in the playoffs both mes and I think it ended up hurting his team both mes. I mean both times he a playoff team and then jettisoned his pitching in an attempt to win W and K and my guess is he lost both times due to not having a pitching staff.


Just trying to help you have a better life.


I can tell you got off to a rough start by the fact you idolize Dan Majerle.

I mean what, was the usernic, "loser", already taken or something?

Leave Dan Majerle out of this. I will play the way I want to play. My lineup is better than yours, and I'll prove that this week. I'll steal K's and I'll beat you. Simple as that

[whottt]

Damn it. One boneheaded start of Carl Pavano away from a 9 - 1 week. Oh well, at least I took 7 from the Waiver Wire Nazi.

I got mashed because your team put up something like 20 HR and 60 RBI, and you had a strong week in W.

You didn't win the W category due to all those pitchers you picked up though...I think you got 1 win out of them....Loshe.

You ended up winning the K category by 2, but if you notice I pulled Gregg at the last second(because he's been shaky and could just have easily cost me ERA and WHip as he could have tied K), and he ended up getting 2ks which would have tied us, in spite of a the 3 starter advantage you had over me. So all those extra pitchers gave you a 2 K advantage and probably ended up hurting you more in ERA and Whip than you realize.

[Melmart1]

well I have a point. I drafted my team and planned my strategy based on the rules set at the start of the season. You can't all of a sudden change the rules once 2 people don't like what is going on. That would be like the NFL saying in the middle of August that you are no longer allowed to pass the ball. It's the same thing. Some teams rely only on the pass, or they drafted a QB, and now you are saying they can't do that when they prepared to play a certain way. So if you are going to take away my strategy which is well within the rules stated at the start of the season, then yes I want my money back or I'll just place all my good players on waivers and let whoever I want to win (not Whott or Melmart) know exactly when I'll do it. How is that for pouting?

Losers make idle threats like this when they don't get their way. Funny thing is, you are getting your way. No rule changes are being made for the regular season, and if they are it won't be until the playoffs, which you won't make if you keep overturning your staff and releasing your 'sleepers' like Cameron Maybin in order to do win one single category. And just barely, at that.

And my strategy will work over the long run. The only reason you beat me in 2 others is because 3 of your scrubs had career weeks. Sorry but Span, Kinsler, and Ibanez will not out RBI and HR Manny, Magglio, and Uttley all season long. It took the Rangers putting up like 40 runs in a week to beat me. That won't happen. All this week proved is even when my team plays like crap, I still have 3 categories written in stone before they even start

Kinsler and Ibanez are hardly scrubs. But your obvious inability to accurately scout talent is apparent.

[Thunder Dan]

whott why arn't you starting Lilly today? Your going to need all the K's and W's you can get

[Thunder Dan]

Losers make idle threats like this when they don't get their way. Funny thing is, you are getting your way. No rule changes are being made for the regular season, and if they are it won't be until the playoffs, which you won't make if you keep overturning your staff and releasing your 'sleepers' like Cameron Maybin in order to do win one single category. And just barely, at that.




Kinsler and Ibanez are hardly scrubs. But your obvious inability to accurately scout talent is apparent.

So you are telling me that Kinsler and Ibanez will account for more homers and RBI's this year than Uttley and Manny? I'll take that side bet


and it's not an idle threat, I may already have a deal in place

[whottt]

whott why arn't you starting Lilly today? Your going to need all the K's and W's you can get

Because he ed me last week(although he did pick up a win) and I'm not going to start him again until I know he's got his togeher...it's not like he produced a bunch of K's in his last start anyway.

He'll (or Perez) probably be the guy I waive when Sherzer comes off the DL.

[Melmart1]

So you are telling me that Kinsler and Ibanez will account for more homers and RBI's this year than Uttley and Manny? I'll take that side bet


and it's not an idle threat, I may already have a deal in place

I never said Kinsler and Ibanez would account for more anything. Clearly, you are incapable of reading comprehension.

And I still think it's an idle threat. I call your bluff.

[Thunder Dan]

But I'm basically conceding ERA and WHIP to you and aiming at K's and Win's....that's why I'm confused you are not starting him- since even if he sucks, it won't really matter. The pitching categories I'm gunning for are the quantifiable ones, wins and K's.

You have to learn how to scout and adjust to the compe ion

plus, you are going to lose Beckett for a start so you will need all the pitcher pitching you can get

[Thunder Dan]

I think it's funny that even though I was the waiver king last week, I still found 2 pitchers that will give me major strikeout numbers- so I'm planning on keeping them just in case I need some K's. I think Purcey and that Japanese guy gave me like 18 k's combined

[whottt]

But I'm basically conceding ERA and WHIP to you and aiming at K's and Win's....

And I appreciate you doing that since you did it all of last week and managed to get 2 more K's than me....and my best strikeout pitcher was on the DL last week.

that's why I'm confused

Sounds like a personal problem to me.

you are not starting him- since even if he sucks, it won't really matter. The pitching categories I'm gunning for are the quantifiable ones, wins and K's.

And if you are giving up era and whip then I don't really see the need to worry about those two very much now do I?

You have to learn how to scout and adjust to the compe ion

I did last week....then I realized some compe ion isn't worth that much effort...I mean, do graduate students scout pre-schoolers?

Same thing...

plus, you are going to lose Beckett for a start so you will need all the pitcher pitching you can get

My pitching is not my major concern with my team right now nor really is winning at this particular moment. I got 3 or 4 slow perennial slow starters on my team offensively so it's going to be shaky until they start producing. There are other weaknesses I am working on addressing right now.

[Thunder Dan]

My pitching is not my major concern with my team right now nor really is winning at this particular moment. I got 3 or 4 slow perennial slow starters on my team offensively so it's going to be shaky until they start producing. There are other weaknesses I am working on addressing right now.

well it doesn't appear that hitting is much of a concern either seeing that 2 guys in your starting lineup aren't even playing today, and another is Eric Byrnes. I could find 5 guys on the waiver wire better than Byrnes.

I'm just saying that Lilly vs. the Rockies is a perfect opportunity for a win, and you are passing it up. Plus it's funny that he hasn't given up a hit yet. The fact is, you are going to need all the K's and Wins you can get because that's what I'm gunning for.


Lilly so far today
3 innings, 0 hits, 0 runs, and 4 K's

[whottt]

well it doesn't appear that hitting is much of a concern either seeing that 2 guys in your starting lineup aren't even playing today

Those two guys are producing better off the bench then most of your guys are as starters...

and another is Eric Byrnes. I could find 5 guys on the waiver wire better than Byrnes.

Upsidewise, or based on last season? Based on last season if you can't find several hundred guys better than Byrnes you're a joke.

I'm just saying that Lilly vs. the Rockies is a perfect opportunity for a win, and you are passing it up. Plus it's funny that he hasn't given up a hit yet. The fact is, you are going to need all the K's and Wins you can get because that's what I'm gunning for.

No I don't...you are basically conceding 3 categories to me already, whip, era and saves. I only need to worry about 3 other categories, neither of which have to be wins and k's...


Frankly I appreciate you conceding me whip and era, because my team sucked in those areas last week.


I love guys like you that concede categories before the series even begins...I save the scouting efforts for the owners that don't concede any categories, those are the tough ones. The guys that concede categories are the easiest.


My major concern with you is keeping track of which good players you are waiving to add scrub pitchers....like the genius you are.

Lilly so far today
3 innings, 0 hits, 0 runs, and 4 K's

Looks like it's Perez I'll probably be waiving then.


How much money are you going to get if you win this week btw? I missed that post.

[Thunder Dan]

Barry Bonds hit 28 homers 2 years ago, why don't you draft him to play outfield?

and I may be conceding those 3 pitching categories, but I could still win them if I get strong outings tonight. I mean, you only have 1 good starter coming this week with Shields and the rest are no better than decent, so even by conceding those I still might win them. You will win saves, but 9-1 will be a solid win for me this week.

Solid way to start the week with a .091 obp, down 7 Runs and a RBI before 5 PM

[whottt]

Barry Bonds hit 28 homers 2 years ago, why don't you draft him to play outfield?

Because I don't need a guy who hit 28 homers 2 years ago with how the draft went.

If I was going to be that stupid about my approach I'd have done something like draft Jim Thome.

Not to mention Barry Bonds is like 50 now and no longer plays baseball.

Now that I think about it...it's probably is less stupid to draft him than it is Thome.

Solid way to start the week with a .091 obp, down 7 Runs and a RBI before 5 PM

Spoken like a real winner

[Thunder Dan]

you should have started Lilly as a hitter since he is out producing the rest of your lineup

[FromWayDowntown]

Frankly, the specter of a season filled with teams just adding and dropping pitchers ad infinitum and leaving some owners -- who are unwilling to do that -- with virtually no chance to win the counting categories in pitching makes me dread the entire season.

It was understandable when it was a Saturday/Sunday occurrence late last season.

6 months of this strikes me as just not any fun.

[Thunder Dan]

I think starting Lilly over Dexter Fowler would have been the play today

[Thunder Dan]

Frankly, the specter of a season filled with teams just adding and dropping pitchers ad infinitum and leaving some owners -- who are unwilling to do that -- with virtually no chance to win the counting categories in pitching makes me dread the entire season.

It was understandable when it was a Saturday/Sunday occurrence late last season.

6 months of this strikes me as just not any fun.

I only did it because I was down in every category but had a chance to gain in K's and Wins. I think I found 2 gem strikeout guys so I can't imagine being in that position again this week- well unless the Rockies bench comes in and scores 30 runs this week. I knew I could catch up in K's, but I likely won't have to worry about it this week

[FromWayDowntown]

I don't have the time or the inclination to try to win a race to the computer every day to pick up sufficient pitching to give my team a chance to overcome owners who are willing to mill pitchers. It doesn't matter whether its every few weeks or not; I'm not going to do it and, apparently, just have to face the fact that I'm going to lose the counting categories when my team runs into a manager who is willing to do that.

Again, I think it's utter b.s. This is the LAST year this league operates without a hard innings limit on pitching.

[whottt]

I think it's funny that even though I was the waiver king last week, I still found 2 pitchers that will give me major strikeout numbers- so I'm planning on keeping them just in case I need some K's. I think Purcey and that Japanese guy gave me like 18 k's combined

Holy !!!!!!!


Are you saying you picked up two guys off the waiver wire that helped you in categories and you plan on keeping them?

My god...this is revolutionary and will have ramifications throughout the fantasy baseball wo...nay, the entire fantasy sports World!.

Imagine, picking up guys off the waiver wire and using them to help your team.

ing genius.


Goddamn Dan...you've only been playing the game a week and you've discovered something new.

Exscuse me, you also pioneered jacking the W and K categories, a heretofore never before thought of strategy.


We are in awe...


Imagine, picking up guys off the waiver wire to help your team in certain categories...

And to think, all these years everryone else has been using the waiver wire without the intention of improving their team or keeping the players...they've just been aimlessly switching out players for the sheer of it until the maginificient intellect known as ThunderDan appeared on the scene to enlighten us that the waiver wire can actually be used to improve your team.



*faints*

[Thunder Dan]

Ted Lilly: 5 Innings, 0 Hits, 1 Walk, 6 K's, a walk and a run scored