Spurs Talk Fantasy Baseball 09

[whottt]

I'll still take the 7 points this week. Don't really care how it happened. And I was
still one Carl Pavano start (a player I drafted) away from sweeping everything but saves.

Ok so now we see what you could have done had you not managed in absentia last season...

Question is, can and will you keep it up for the entire season?


I've never seen a Truth lead team make the playoffs yet in any league...I am curious to see what it looks like

[Thunder Dan]

It's one thing to talk a little smack and another to bash a dude personall.

Your smack to start the season was fun, and kept things entertaining. You're turning into a whiny kid though right now. That isn't any fun.

I'm sure Whott doesn't care what I think of him, just the same can be said with me. I'm just trying to make the point that it's just fantasy baseball and a)people should be talking as much trash as possible (I mean he chose to not start a guy who took a no hitter into the 7th inning and started 2 guys that didn't even play- you have to say something about that) and b) it's not going to matter if you win this, it's not going to be written on your tombstone that you won fantasy in 2009. Point is, it's not a big deal. If you don't like me trash talking then just put me on your ignore list.

and what I don't want is people giving me all kinds of statistical breakdowns of the downfalls of my team. It's my team, I chose it. I don't care what you think.

[TheTruth]

Ok so now we see what you could have done had you not managed in absentia last season...

Question is, can and will you keep it up for the entire season?


I've never seen a Truth lead team make the playoffs yet in any league...I am curious to see what it looks like

I tend to win Championships. How many have you won in the basketball leagues? You can have all the playoff appearances you want.

[whottt]

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and that post by Whott was only funny because of how long it was and how much venom it had behind it.

It's called "sarcasm" and if you get into a talking contest with me you are going to get a lot of it. I know you probably think you just discovered that too...but trust me, it's been around for a while and you are the only person in this thread that is unaware that I use it liberally when talking .


You started it...if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

[TheTruth]

lol, I'm 1 for 1.

I just need to make the playoffs more often.

[Thunder Dan]

It's called "sarcasm" and if you get into a talking contest with me you are going to get a lot of it. I know you probably think you just discovered that too...but trust me, it's been around for a while and you are the only person in this thread that is unaware that I use it liberally when talking .


You started it...if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

everyone knows that Matthew Perry invented sarcasm, that much is common knowledge- but it's hard to think you are joking around when you give me a 4 paragraph statistical breakdown of something I said.

[TheTruth]

Whott'll break it down. That's for damn sure.

[whottt]

but it's hard to think you are joking around when you give me a 4 paragraph statistical breakdown of something I said.

I did that because there were 4 paragraphs worth of wrong in what you said.

[whottt]

I gotta go make an F in a Spanish test...bbiab. For now I'll just say, Truth winning a championship is better and I've won nada...but being the fantasy clippers can't be that much fun.


Dan...it all depends on your philosophy of talking smack, your philosophy is great if you win, but it gives anyone that beats you a tremendous amound of satisfaction after doing so...my philosphy in talking smack when into it, is to talk so much that even if I lose the person regrets the entire experience and won't look forward to it again. It's kind of like getting into a fight...just because you might wind up getting your ass kicked is no reason to not do as much damage as you possibly can in the process of getting your ass kicked. Make the guy think twice about engaging you again even if he wins.

Live and learn grasshoppper.

[TheTruth]

I have a blast Whootttt.

[Thunder Dan]

Dan...it all depends on your philosophy of talking smack, your philosophy is great if you win, but it gives anyone that beats you a tremendous amound of satisfaction after doing so...my philosphy in talking smack when into it, is to talk so much that even if I lose the person regrets the entire experience and won't look forward to it again. It's kind of like getting into a fight...just because you might wind up getting your ass kicked is no reason to not do as much damage as you possibly can in the process of getting your ass kicked. Make the guy think twice about engaging you again even if he wins.

maybe you care a little more about what others think than I do. Do you think I care that Melmart beat me 6-4 last week? I don't. I don't care if I lose and others get more satisfaction from it. Again, it's fantasy baseball, its not like you are bragging about banging my wife or something. If I lose I don't care, and when I win you will all hear about it- it's just the nature of a good trash talker

What I am pissed about is pitchers getting scared to pitch to Manny. Hudson on 3rd with no outs and they walk him and let that chump Loney get the RBI. That's bull

[TheTruth]

Lol, should have drafted Andre Ethier. He's going to be sniping Manny's RBI's all season.

[timvp]

The plan that made sense to me from the beginning was a regular season + playoff cap of about 40. That way you don't have regular season waiver wire s like whottt transaction themselves to the playoffs and you don't have playoff waiver wire s like timvp to whine about. It would make the playing field completely even because a team would have to consider whether a move in April is worth risking maneuverability during the playoffs.

Having a non-cap regular season is just asking for what we've seen so far. And then switching to a cap during the playoffs basically changes the game we're playing and no longer are the four teams that are active necessarily the four best teams under the new rules.

All that said, I'll officially vote for "Yes, A". It basically eliminates myself from championship compe ion but I think it's best for the league. If FWD would proposition a regular season cap (or a regular season + postseason cap), I'd vote for that as well.

If someone is going to complain to the point they want their money back due to voted upon rule adjustments, I'll pay for their team and give the team to Kori to manage.

[timvp]

Fail.

15 transactions in one week for the guy begging for a transaction cap? Classic. And injured players isn't an excuse. I have four players on the disabled list.

#1. You use that strategy to pick up non-dominican pitchers when you use it. So if you are going to end up using American pitchers to use that strategy, why not just do it to build a worthy pitching staff.

I'm willing to outsource during the playoffs. The Dominicans get tired of carrying the load. We need some illegals to help out.

#2. You can play for wins in ERA and Whip using this All Dominican strategy. Since you are basically banking on winning at least 4 offensive categories with your Dominicans, why not just play for ERA and whip and use the cream of the crop of Dominican pitchers.

Genius.

How about because they are all taken. The problem with the Dominican strategy is we don't believe in mediocrity. So by about the eighth or ninth round of the draft, all the Dominican studs have been taken.

Believe me, if I had free reign and exclusive rights to the Dominican players, no other team in this league would have a chance.

#3. Five transactions is more than enough to win W and K cheaply if you want to go that route...you just have to pick good pitchers to pull it off.

BS. Four or five stud pitchers is worth about 14 to 15 suck pitchers. Believe me. I've tried to use the strategy. Five transactions is less than one day's work.

And to counter that, the other team would just need to copy it.

@ the "strategy" still being effective with five transactions. Five would be lucky to cover injuries and days off.

And you're welcome

Thanks for the fantasy advice. I obviously have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to fantasy sports.

[FromWayDowntown]

All that said, I'll officially vote for "Yes, A". It basically eliminates myself from championship compe ion but I think it's best for the league. If FWD would proposition a regular season cap (or a regular season + postseason cap), I'd vote for that as well.

With that vote, there are officially 5 votes for "Yes" as to Question No. 1, which concerned whether a change limiting post-season transactions should be ins uted now.

By my count:

YES: Melmart, whottt, slayer, timvp, ATRAIN
NO: Dan, The Truth, alamo50
NOT VOTED YET: FWD, Eric B

My inclination is to vote "Yes" to question no. 1, too, which would make that the majority.

As such, the majority of the league (6 of 10) has voted to ins ute a cap on transactions for this year's post-season.

As to the second question, the voting also reveals a clear majority. Without my vote, there are 5 votes for option A, a limit that permits no more than 1-5 transactions per week. There are 3 votes for option E, no limit. There are no votes for options B, C, or D. Again, FWD and Eric B have abstained thus far. FWD will vote for option A, making that the majority choice.

[whottt]

Dan...no one has ever made the playoffs doing the strategy you are doing during the regular season.

Timvp has done it the playoffs, but he's never done it in the regular season. Which makes you wonder why the he does it in the post season...I mean if not doing it is good enough to get his team to the post season, it's good enough to win a championship.


And Truth isn't in this boat with you either even though it may seem like he is...I tope truthy starts dropping 5 pitchers per night...as he's got some pitching I'd like to get hold of. Even better if he drops some of his freaking hitters that laid 20 HR and 60 RBI on me last week(which I believe is probably a record)....


Bottom line is that other guys are voting for it just to keep the option open...you've actually pencilled yourself into having to do it.

[TheTruth]

I've limited my self to 2 roster spots that I could drop for pitching if ERA and Whip get out of reach for me.

[whottt]

15 transactions in one week for the guy begging for a transaction cap? Classic. And injured players isn't an excuse. I have four players on the disabled list.

Dude we can cap them if you want...I didn't play but 3 of the pickups I made last week. The rest was just picking up then decide if I want them.

If I see a guy that looks half interesting to me, I sign him, then I decide if I want him or not. The reason I do that is because in those second while you are analyzing stuff someone can snag a player from you.

I'm willing to outsource during the playoffs. The Dominicans get tired of carrying the load. We need some illegals to help out.

Genius.

How about because they are all taken. The problem with the Dominican strategy is we don't believe in mediocrity. So by about the eighth or ninth round of the draft, all the Dominican studs have been taken.

Believe me, if I had free reign and exclusive rights to the Dominican players, no other team in this league would have a chance.

LOL if you can win enough to make the playoffs with that staff, you can win a championship. I've seen you win weeks against the eventual champion withot using that strategy...I've never seen you beat the eventual champion using that strategy.

BS. Four or five stud pitchers is worth about 14 to 15 suck pitchers. Believe me. I've tried to use the strategy. Five transactions is less than one day's work.

And to counter that, the other team would just need to copy it.

@ the "strategy" still being effective with five transactions. Five would be lucky to cover injuries and days off.

That's not really true...take a look at what Truth did this week.

Look, you can play for ERA and Whip just as easily as you can for K and W.

Thanks for the fantasy advice. I obviously have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to fantasy sports.

you are pretty much a stud in football and basketball..

Beisbol has not been beddy beddy good to you IMHO.

And you can't use the Dominican excuse either...because you didn't do that last year and you still tried to scam w and k with a drafted and refined staff.

You should just consider yourself lucky I didn't play that game with you last year...


Reason being, as long as I kept buffering the rest of the league from that strategy. I'd never pick up the converts I need to put a stop to it...so last year I refused to buffer it even after getting you in the thr first round again, and giving you bragging rights in the fantasy sport that I have dominated you in...lo and behold, I got new converts with every round you made it to

[whottt]

maybe you care a little more about what others think than I do.

On the contrary...you obviously care a great deal about what others think which is why you talk so much unsolicited in the first place.

I mean if knew your team was good you wouldn't be worried about convincing others it is or asking for approval of your Jim Thome draft pick.

Do you think I care that Melmart beat me 6-4 last week? I don't.

Hey it's your $25. Throw it away however you want.


I'll believe you don't care if you give me $25 right now...prove what you say.

If I lose I don't care, and when I win you will all hear about it- it's just the nature of a good trash talker

That's pretty hilarious coming from a guy who has done nothing but talk without winning even a week yet.

What I am pissed about is pitchers getting scared to pitch to Manny. Hudson on 3rd with no outs and they walk him and let that chump Loney get the RBI. That's bull

Someday when you grow up and are more mature you'll understand why a great hitter not having protection can give you this result.

There's no subs ute for experience...but you'll figure it out as you learn more about life...


And fantasy baseball.

Been there done that.

[whottt]

Damn, at this rate I might be able to win the K race just with my closers.

Incidentally...if you are so worried about K's you should probably hold on to your good closers, since they overwhelminingly have the highest K per IP rates in the game...I figure you gave up about 6-7 k's a week when you traded your closer....which looking at your staff is probably the best k per week rate of anyone on your entire pitching staff.

And oh yeah, ,they rack up their K's usually along with microscopic era and whip totals while they are doing it.


As you learn more about the game you'll stop making these sorts of mistakes.

[Thunder Dan]

Melmart was up 23 Ks on Friday and I pulled it off. It just so happens that all your closers play for ty teams so they could be done for the week

[whottt]

Compared to who are they ty teams?

Like for instance...KC has got 2 more games against the 1-6 Indians...they aren't ty compared to the Indians.

1-6 is ty compared to any other team in the league.

[whottt]

Melmart was up 23 Ks on Friday and I pulled it off. It just so happens that all your closers play for ty teams so they could be done for the week

I hate to break it to you but Melmart could have taken the K easily if she wanted too...I think it was probably something about principles.

In case you didn't notice, you lost with your strategy last week.

[whottt]

And with that turd your pitching staff took tonight for a whopping 2 K gain against a team that hasn't even used it's starters yet...I suggest you hit that waiver wire quick.

At this rate I might not even have to use my starters this week.


Hurry up and turn those pitchers...time's a wasting.


Go on...get to work.


Unlike the playoffs, the entirity of the pitching waiver wire is your kindgom right now

[Thunder Dan]

Sorry but I refuse to take advice from a guy that started 3 guys that didn't even play today. Yeah Carmona and Lester had bad outings, but I still have a solid week of hitting coming and I'll be able to take a pitching category