View Poll Results: Who would you pick to be your franchise player?

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  • Tim Duncan - Mr Fundamental

    77 50.33%
  • Hakeem Olajuwon - The Dream

    44 28.76%
  • Can't go wrong with either

    32 20.92%
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  1. #226
    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    Hakeem rides a camel or a compact coupe with bombs strapped to it or a magic carpet
    I'm sure you have stats to back it up.

    you're an idiot.

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    at this thread devolving.

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    at this thread devolving.
    what more is there after 10 pages?

    I think I can honestly say I have thoroughly changed all of the rocketfans minds, making them realize how wrong and stupid they all are for thinking Hakeem is somehow greater than Duncan.

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    As a fan watching Hakeem's supporting cast during the 1st le year was frustrating because Maxwell was an erratic shooting guard version of Rafer Alston. He shot .389 from 2 and .298 from 3 in 93-94 @ 13.6ppg. Robert Horry shot a slightly better 32% from 3pt range @ 9.9ppg. Where is this great supporting cast the Spurs homers severely overrate?Hakeem carried these guys on his back that year. Other than Olajuwon and Thorpe they were so inconsistant, it wasn't funny. Maxwell did make up for it with game-winning shots, but the mainly after shooting 4-12 on most nights. What every fanbase outside of the Rockets' saw and remembers is the supporting cast overachieving and playing out of their minds in the playoffs. That wasn't the case throughout the reg season. Hakeem was carrying their asses to that 1st le.
    I agree with the above 100% yes horry, maxwell, Elie hit clutch shots but only after Hakem wass double and even triple teamed ...yet according to BLake Robinson single covered Hakeem ...oh yeah right... all of the Clutch city highlight dagger 3's was due to Hakeem's presence ...to overrate those guys are just like the morons who gave Parker the Finals MVP when we all know TP would not get free reign at the lane without yes Tim he would score more but hes numbers would be down (FG% TO's without duncan)

    I again state the 1st le team without drexler was one of the WEAKEST le teams in NBA history yet Hakeem carried them to the promise land TWICE the 2nd team was better and battle tested but no on would compare them to best spur, laker celts or bulls teams their ONE advantage was Hakeem ...

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    Veteran Lars's Avatar
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    what more is there after 10 pages?

    I think I can honestly say I have thoroughly changed all of the rocketfans minds, making them realize how wrong and stupid they all are for thinking Hakeem is somehow greater than Duncan.
    What is your counter to both Horry and Elie claiming Hakeem as a superior player?

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    Veteran Tmac&Luther's Avatar
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    what more is there after 10 pages?

    I think I can honestly say I have thoroughly changed all of the rocketfans minds, making them realize how wrong and stupid they all are for thinking Hakeem is somehow greater than Duncan.
    Man it must be nice living in your "wonderland" where everything you say somehow becomes fact......let me guess, you're king there aren't you and you smoke pot with the Cheshire Cat, infact he's your dealer isn't he?

  7. #232
    Believe. DaBears's Avatar
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    Now seriously people come on!!!! Who in here can honestly say look-in back strictly at stats that Hakeem was a better player. If it was, he would be named "Mr Fundamental". And named as being potentially the greatest center of all time, but he not mentioned even in the top 5 @ center. So how could anyone rank or think Hakeem is better.

    No I will give the man credit I saw him play and he was one of the best centers during his time, and he did make my main man David Robinson his poster boy in that fateful series. But let’s get real all he no TD.

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    What is your counter to both Horry and Elie claiming Hakeem as a superior player?
    If you're gonna take Horry's word as gospel, then you gotta take his statement in 2005 or 2007 (can't remember which of the two it was) that the compe ion is way better currently than in the 80s and 90s as true too.

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    Hakeem rides a camel or a compact coupe with bombs strapped to it or a magic carpet

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    If you're gonna take Horry's word as gospel, then you gotta take his statement in 2005 or 2007 (can't remember which of the two it was) that the compe ion is way better currently than in the 80s and 90s as true too.
    Source?- Spurs champ dvds?, beyond the glory?
    Last edited by Many PackYao; 04-14-2009 at 02:51 PM.

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    Oh "Akeem" was quite the hot head and ego trip before the plane ride to Japan in 1993 and increased faith in Islam created "Hakeem."
    Yup, just ask Billy Paultz, Mitch Kupchak, and Dave Feitl.

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    Veteran Lars's Avatar
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    If you're gonna take Horry's word as gospel, then you gotta take his statement in 2005 or 2007 (can't remember which of the two it was) that the compe ion is way better currently than in the 80s and 90s as true too.
    Fair point, but to counter Horry played with both Duncan and Hakeem in thier primes, so he is qualified to make a comparison.

    He did not however play in the 80s, so I question how good of a candidate he is too coment on this.

  14. #239
    I own Allanon mavs>spurs2's Avatar
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    that's pretty sorry logic.

    you stick Duncan on the other team's best player because he IS the best defensive player. Relying on the refs reluctancy to foul him out is stupid.



    yeah, Duncan averaged 30ppg in the wins and the Spurs dismissed the Suns in 5 games.

    Good job agreeing even though you don't know you are.
    I didn't agree on . Pop's gameplan was simple, guard Amare one on one and let him get his, while shutting down the rest of the Suns players. And dayum, he sure did get his, 37 ppg. That's what happens when Duncan guards the opposing teams superstar big, and the reason why the following year he didn't guard Dirk.

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    If you're gonna take Horry's word as gospel, then you gotta take his statement in 2005 or 2007 (can't remember which of the two it was) that the compe ion is way better currently than in the 80s and 90s as true too.
    Now how does that makes sense, since Horry didn't play in the 80's? Now if he said the 00's were better than the 90's then you have a valid point. Now somehow connect that to him noting that stars from the 80's/90's (like Hakeem) would struggle in the modern era and you have a winner.

    But he is on record as saying Dream was better, and so was Elie. Again...all they did was play with and win les with both men.

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    very nice! Borat's Avatar
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    I have read that chocolate face Hakeem Olajuwon has a chram larger than a Burmese python. Is true?

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    I have read that chocolate face Hakeem Olajuwon has a chram larger than a Burmese python. Is true?
    I don't know personally, but Pamela Anderson say she know for fact is true!Hi five!

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    I didn't agree on . Pop's gameplan was simple, guard Amare one on one and let him get his, while shutting down the rest of the Suns players. And dayum, he sure did get his, 37 ppg. That's what happens when Duncan guards the opposing teams superstar big, and the reason why the following year he didn't guard Dirk.
    Hmm, now this is a solid point. So why didn't Duncan check Dirk in that series? Hakeem or Robinson would have. It's not like Dampier was an offensive threat. I honestly don't remember.

    Now if you say he did check him, well....didn't Dirk go off that series (27, 13 on 53%)?

  19. #244
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    The 80s was a time that the league was packages with 3 or 4 upper echelon teams that would make the best team in the league this past decade quiver. The fact that Jordan got his championships in the 90s tells you alot


    And when did Horry play back then?

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Now how does that makes sense, since Horry didn't play in the 80's? Now if he said the 00's were better than the 90's then you have a valid point. Now somehow connect that to him noting that stars from the 80's/90's (like Hakeem) would struggle in the modern era and you have a winner.

    But he is on record as saying Dream was better, and so was Elie. Again...all they did was play with and win les with both men.
    I posted that in response to this garbage argument that the 2000's were some weak decade in comparison the 90s, which is looking to minimize Duncan's accomplishments. There's no way the 90s were stronger if you take Jordan out of the equation, which you have to since the Rockets never competed against Chicago in any meaningful game.

  21. #246
    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    The 00's were stronger than the 90's, imo.

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    The 00's were stronger than the 90's, imo.
    No offense IM, but isn't that like the only era of bball you've really seen?

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    Hmm, now this is a solid point. So why didn't Duncan check Dirk in that series? Hakeem or Robinson would have. It's not like Dampier was an offensive threat. I honestly don't remember.
    Because Dirk is a wing player, like David Robinson, not a big man, like Duncan or Olajuwon.

  24. #249
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    Because Dirk is a wing player, like David Robinson, not a big man, like Duncan or Olajuwon.
    So are you saying Duncan wasn't on him? Dirk is a PF, the same position as Duncan. Looking back at the boxscores it seems like Diop and Dampier split most of the minutes at center, and considering how much PT the Mav's wings were getting, I'm assuming Dirk lined up at C some too when they went small. This is me assuming, which is why I asked the question.

  25. #250
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    I posted that in response to this garbage argument that the 2000's were some weak decade in comparison the 90s, which is looking to minimize Duncan's accomplishments. There's no way the 90s were stronger if you take Jordan out of the equation, which you have to since the Rockets never competed against Chicago in any meaningful game.
    I'm sure you will disagree, but I think all of the following teams would be favorites to win les in the 00's:

    1992 Blazers
    1993 Suns
    1994 Knicks
    1995 Rockets
    1995 Magic
    1996 Sonics
    1997 and 98 Jazz
    1999 Spurs

    If you want to say the 3peat Lakers are better than all of those teams then I may agree. But the secondary teams from this decade? All of those teams that made the Eastern Finals when the Spurs and Lakers won? Were the 06 Pistons really better than any of the above teams? The 03 Spurs? The Kings teams that challenged the lakers....did they really have more talent than the Jazz, Sonics or Blazers? Nash and Amare dominate but KJ and Barkley couldn't? Payton and Kemp with all the insane depth on those Sonics teams, and they actually did play defense.

    Additionally, Hakeem did play like 7 seasons in the 80's, and got to the Finals once. Do you think the 00's were better than the 80's as well?

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