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    Wow…. After 9 pages….you got the prize….

    Congratulation EricB/Tpark it’s an honor to recognize you as the biggest clown this thread ever had… now answering your comments,…

    Americans are generally good people (there are some exemptions of course … you for example) are Americans sometimes selfish…yes you guys are …. it’s my personal opinion…
    Now… I’m not from France but I respect them as I respect the US. They have their defects.. but you obviously went to far on your comments on that great Nation.

    Now… Question to Kori and LJ … howcome this person is allowed to insult so openly a country and everybody he wants to insult??? I’ve seen people get banned or pinked for less.
    We understand it just fine. We still think it's bull though. Have a nice day.
    Have a nice day too. What you, EricB and all those who do not give a about what happens beyond your doormat is irrelevant anyway. That is TP's choice (or Manu's) and there is nothing you can do about it. And everybody has the right to disagree but the words used by EricB are not only uncalled for but plainly shocking.

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    ok... too bad i didn't heard about Tricities before... we'll be in Krakow.
    i heard it was a great city despite being invaded by drunk British lads during weekends
    Nice, i'll be in Poznan to watch my country take on GReece
    I hope france manages to qualify, i would love to see them playing.

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    Wow…. After 9 pages….you got the prize….

    Congratulation EricB/Tpark it’s an honor to recognize you as the biggest clown this thread ever had…

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    I think Tony just wants to bring basketball pride to his country. What has France won in basketball?

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    I think Tony just wants to bring basketball pride to his country. What has France won in basketball?
    they won a silver medal in the 2000 olympics and a bronze medal in the 2005 eurobasket. and that's it.

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    What has France won in basketball?
    2001 Women Basketball European Championship.

    Yes, French NT sucks.

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    Who knows why you're xenophobic? Bad parenting would be my guess. Also, you were raised in an environment that didn't emphasize spelling and grammar. But you have taken numerous shots at France and other countries both on this thread and many, many other ones. You're basically a typical Republican "God bless America and no one else" dip .

    As for your stupid remarks in this inane thread, here's all the stuff you or anyone else has to understand

    1) It is illegal for the Spurs or any other NBA team to put language in a contract forbidding a player to compete in international compe ions. It is against the league's collective bargaining agreement. Sure, the front office could make suggestions to a player, maybe offer him advice on the subject, but they can't forbid it.

    2) Millions of fans across this country criticize athletes for just being mercenaries and just caring about money. Manu knowingly risked his future contract and left a $20M+ extension on the table for the privilege of playing for his country. You can call him crazy or stupid, but don't call him selfish. He has his priorities and if they're not in line with yours, so be it. He's not your slave. You don't own his body from the day the Spurs' season ends to the day training camp begins the following season.

    3) Both Manu and Tony have already had far more successful NBA careers than we could've possibly dreamed when they were drafted and both have already earned every penny of their current deals and then some. For them to have honor their homelands where they learned how to play the game by representing their countries and wearing their colors is something we should be proud of them for, not angry about. It shows they have their hearts in the right place.

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    One thing about Tony is that although he has played professional BB or so many years at such a young age, I think he has been VERY smart at "managing" his body all these years...
    For example, playing so early with veterans teach him that only PO really matters, that's why he NEVER gives 100% in defence during regular season (whitch often leads to "spurstalk bashing"!lol)...
    If you look at his averages min played since he came, the max is 34min! (whitch is ALWAYS the fewer among starting PG or even gards in the nba!)
    Although one of his strengh is his speed, he never specialy worked on it, and doesn't have an atletic body (he hates training and all the physical stuff...), whitch leads to less muscular problems...
    We/he often complains that he doesn't get enough FT,obviously it"s because he doesn't ge enough repect from the refs, but it's also because he avoids contact with the bigs and knows how to fall...
    Finaly, for those who know him from th begning, you see that he is "on a mission", I mean he is the consumate professional BB player, he knows what it takes to get what he wants, meaning he doesn't drink or party to much...

    All that to say that I'm very confident in the fact that he has at least 7 or 8 years left at elite level...

    Manu is more a "cape diem" type of player, he gives all he has EVERYTIME, he never "saves" his body...that's what we love in him and why he has(had?lol) such a career!

    Anyway, go Tony, hope you qualify us (I'm french) this summer!

    Go France Go !!
    Go Spurs Go !!

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    er son

    Parker - finals mvp, starting PG for 3 nba championship

    Batum - Starting SF for championship contender. Jordan said he is a young pippen

    Diaw- former MIP. Starting PF for a playoff contender

    Turiaff- former backup center for a final team

    Noah- starting center for a playoff team, getting better and better although he is ugly like .

    pietrus- starter for a championshp contender before injury
    Which is not good enough team to win a medal in Eurobasket.

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    Agreed. There already is an international league, and it's the only international league that truly matters: The NBA.

    The US should abandon the Dream team concept and let the amatuers get on with playing their silly games that mean nothing.

    I'd like to see a clause in all NBA contracts that states that if you get injured during National off-season play, you forfeit your salary. Love your country? Good for you, let's see how much: are you willing to bet your NBA millions on it?
    And so Team USA will never play Olympics with NBA players. Dumbass.

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    I agree with timvp, in that if it's for Olympic play that's one thing, but for "World Championships" that's becoming a bit much.
    It is a qualifier to Euro championship not World championship. And how the can France play in Olympics without qualifying?

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    im going with timvp. i see the other side of the arguement though. He can give back to his country in the olympics. not in every single pointless tournament in every summer
    They cannot qualify for ing Olympics without playing Eurobasket. How stupid are people here? And Eurobasket is very close or even equal to level of Olympics. American NBA fans really sound like arrogant s in this thread.

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    all for a good for nothing country no one gives a about.
    How respectful of you Eric... I wonder how Tony Parker himself would feel reading your post?

    Obviously, you hate the country of France, but it is beyond childish to think that everyone in the world and throughout history would agree with you. I could start with Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and George Washington, who were all great admirers of the French.... many of Jefferson's views about freedom are directly derived from the French philosopers that he loved so much.

    You are clearly a perfect example of a stupid & obsessed American sports fan who has no clarity and understanding about the world. The fact that Tony-- the guy that your last username (TPark!) paid homage to-- decides to play for his country leads you not only to criticize the decision but to then declare that an entire country and population of people is good for nothing just shows how small-minded you are.

    With just one post, you've insulted Tony Parker more than all of the other Parker-haters on spurstalk combined. Congratulations on that.
    Last edited by Tully365; 04-15-2009 at 02:19 PM.

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    This takes us to the last viewpoint, the fan perspective. Now, to address this part you need to know what players your team is made of. Is it made of a bunch of self centered pricks that will prioritize the quick buck over glory? Or is it made of a bunch of guys that are willing to leave money on the table in order to have a shot at glory?
    The current Spurs are made of the second kind of players, and that fabric is what makes the Spurs the team it is. Which is the same fabric that makes these same players want to go for glory at every chance they get.
    Duncan spoke with his wallet when he extended for less money in order to give the team flexibility. Same for Bowen. Manu had a juicy extension on the table, but choose to seek glory over cashing out.

    As a fan, I'm more than grateful that we have THESE kind of players and not the selfish pricks money grubbers that are not in it to win it.

    So I trust that this means you're ok with the product you're about to see in these 2009 playoffs right? Your argument would seem to indicate that a players personal agenda is first and foremost and the teams needs come in a distant second.

    How do you reconcile your want to see "number five" this year with Manus "quest for glory" as you put it? You can't possibly argue that engaging in this type of reckless behavior is beneficial for your San Antonio Spurs in any shape form or fashion.

    There is such a thing as being hungry to a fault. Years are being shaved off of Manus career as a result of this. Truly a shame to see.

    Be in it to win it sure. But make sure it's what you're being paid to win.......

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    We should start a poll after the massive EricB/Tpark ownage.

    1-Will EricB/Tpark get a third screen name?
    2-Did he (also) fail on trying to improve his reputation by changing his screen name?
    3-Does he already have numerous screen names?
    4-All of the above.

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    We should start a poll after the massive EricB/Tpark ownage.

    1-Will EricB/Tpark get a third screen name?
    2-Did he (also) fail on trying to improve his reputation by changing his screen name?
    3-Does he already have numerous screen names?
    4-All of the above.


    It will be hard for him to top his last stunt!
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20020

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    haha no matter the username you are the same you've been

    Jeez you thought you will be a diferent person changing the name?
    wtf

    Changing name to let's say ... Chis Angel won't make you a magician

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    haha no matter the username you are the same you've been

    Jeez you thought you will be a diferent person changing the name?
    wtf

    Changing name to let's say ... Chis Angel won't make you a magician





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    So I trust that this means you're ok with the product you're about to see in these 2009 playoffs right? Your argument would seem to indicate that a players personal agenda is first and foremost and the teams needs come in a distant second.
    Did you actually read the post you quoted in it's entirety? The team benefits monetarily from the players playing in their respective national teams. The player personal agenda is perfectly aligned with the teams. If it wouldn't be, the NBA wouldn't have signed an agreement with FIBA to start with.
    Are there risks involved? Sure. But it's obvious that those risks were contemplated and that overall the positives outweighed the negatives.
    Second of all, I'm absolutely at peace with the product we're going to see, because it's the only product we have. I was OK with the product that played the 2006 playoffs too, with Duncan in one leg with planar fasciitis. I don't quit on my team when they're down. I support them all the way to the end.

    How do you reconcile your want to see "number five" this year with Manus "quest for glory" as you put it? You can't possibly argue that engaging in this type of reckless behavior is beneficial for your San Antonio Spurs in any shape form or fashion.
    What reckless behavior? He got his last injury playing for the Spurs, not running motorboats. And I don't see how you couldn't reconcile his hunger with winning number five, considering he plays balls out every single time he dons the #20 silver and black. , are you really going to question his heart and commitment towards the Spurs?

    There is such a thing as being hungry to a fault. Years are being shaved off of Manus career as a result of this. Truly a shame to see.
    What is 'this'? An injury? It happens to everybody. Man up and deal with it.

    Be in it to win it sure. But make sure it's what you're being paid to win.......
    Wrong, again. Manu played for the Spurs all last season and earned his salary. He didn't get paid NOT TO play in the summer. And the Spurs got every cent back for the games he missed due to the injury in the Olympics.
    This current injury has nothing to do with the Olympics, as stated by Manu himself after he asked the Spurs medical staff.
    And before you argue otherwise, I want to see factual evidence to the contrary. I'll be waiting.

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    haha no matter the username you are the same you've been

    Jeez you thought you will be a diferent person changing the name?
    wtf

    Changing name to let's say ... Chis Angel won't make you a magician


    so ... so far option 4..

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    ...and we are only 8 games in.


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