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    God Talks To Me. angel_luv's Avatar
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    If they both agree to that lifestyle, so be it. But I maintain that any spouse to chooses to completely depend on their spouse financially and makes no attempt to learn or acquire any knowledge or skills that can be used to support themselves in the event of a divorce shouldn't be en led to anything except child support. If you don't qualify for child support, too bad.
    Well most people at least have some work experience before they marry.
    But it is not easy to leave the work force and then get let back in, particulary in our current economy.

    Also, while it is good to be prepared, if you live out your marriage making every decisions based on the anticipation of possible divorce... what does that say about the state of your marriage? And, does such a practice limit a marriage?

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    You can't really say that choosing to stay home with your kids equals no motivation to acquire marketable skills. When I married I made $70k per year. When we had kids, we made a joint conscious decision that I would stay home because we both strongly valued that kind of child rearing. It's worked out fine financially ---but bottom line is I did give up something to get here. Am I en led to anything besides child support? Just curious.
    Do you still have the skills necessary to earn the money you earned before you stopped? Bad economy not withstanding. If you made the choice to take yourself out of the workforce and didn't retain or maintain your skills then in my opinion, no. You should not be en led to alimony. What happens if your husband dies and has no life insurance? Are you going to get alimony from a corpse? (Apologies for the blunt wording.)

    And I didn't say that choosing to stay home with your kids equals no motivation. If my post implied that, I apologize. You can be a stay at home parent and still find a way to learn marketable skills. That way, in the event of a divorce, you're not dependent upon your ex for money.

    These days, marriage is not a guarantee of "till death do us part". Wives AND husbands should always do whatever possible to have a backup plan if the marriage fails.

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    Well most people at least have some work experience before they marry.
    But it is not easy to leave the work force and then get let back in, particulary in our current economy.

    Also, while it is good to be prepared, if you live out your marriage making every decisions based on the anticipation of possible divorce... what does that say about the state of your marriage? And, does such a practice limit a marriage?
    If you're married, work your hardest to make it work and keep it working. But don't go along blindly thinking that it's a 100% guarantee. And I should add that divorce is not the only issue. What about the death of your spouse? What if you're a stay at home mom and your husband dies unexpectedly? What then?

    Be a good spouse. Love your husband/wife, be a good parent, do your best to live out the life. But be prepared. Expect the best, prepare for the worst.

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    I think the important phrase here is : Maintain your skills.

    These days, there are people with skills who are losing their jobs. Imagine how much harder a to returner to the work force would likely have it!

    Strike, I think you object, and rightly so, to wives who sit around all day just watching soap operas or gossiping at the beauty parlor.
    Those wives don't contribute to the household and so I can understand your feeling they are not en led to any profit from it.

    But the majority of stay at home wives I know are true homemakers- care for their husbands and children, keep the house clean, and are also active in their churches and communities.
    Doesn't the second group deserve better than the first lot?

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    mel knew he was gonna be giving her half once he dipped lil riggs into a young hottie.

    i think he'll survive on 500 million and half his residuals.


    it's all going to the kids in 30 years anyway so what's the difference...

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    Be a good spouse. Love your husband/wife, be a good parent, do your best to live out the life. But be prepared. Expect the best, prepare for the worst.
    Good advice.

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    How do you quantify her worth in this marriage? How is it that she is deserving of 500 Mill? Surely she will be less well off financially without him, but to say 500 Mill, or even 100 mill is something justifiable is quite absurd.

    The depreciation of her living standard as a claim is laughable. Even with 50 Mill she has more than enough time to make herself marketable. , alot less and she can make herself marketable. She doesn't even have to do so if she so decides not to.

    With this choice, she still can live smoothly. They have one child below eighteen, ONE. In the case of assisting his younger child, is this single child in need of hundreds of Millions of dollars? Lets be reasonable here.

    Before they wed, she was a dental nurse so she has some sort of knowledge of how to support herself after their youngest is solidified as a member of society. She will not need 500, or even 100 Million to support herself, and the youngest up until this point in time.

    Her economic ceiling in this profession doesn't even begin to approach 500 Mill, so her sacrificing a career which would provide such means is not applicable.
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    I think the important phrase here is : Maintain your skills.

    These days, there are people with skills who are losing their jobs. Imagine how much harder a to returner to the work force would likely have it!

    Strike, I think you object, and rightly so, to wives who sit around all day just watching soap operas or gossiping at the beauty parlor.
    Those wives don't contribute to the household and so I can understand your feeling they are not en led to any profit from it.

    But the majority of stay at home wives I know are true homemakers- care for their husbands and children, keep the house clean, and are also active in their churches and communities.
    Doesn't the second group deserve better than the first lot?
    Again, you shouldn't completely depend on another person financially. If you make the conscious choice to do so, you're taking a risk.

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    if you felt marriage was unncessary, why did you marry to begin with?
    bingo!


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    Again, you shouldn't completely depend on another person financially. If you make the conscious choice to do so, you're taking a risk.
    You have the luxury of no kids so you can say things like that. Sometimes it's cheaper to have the wifey stay at home than paying someone to watch during work hours

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    Hey, . Did you even read my reply? I'm guessing you didn't. So I'll repost it. I'll even take out the parts that don't pertain to the question so you won't be forced to look a bunch of words and scratch your head in confusion...


    I didn't feel that way at the time. I was 22 when I married. I was young and naive. I didn't know . After seeing so many friends get married and divorced in the last 8 years and seeing all the turmoil they had to endure as a direct result of getting married, my feelings on the matter changed.
    Stick a fork in your vag. You're done.

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    You have the luxury of no kids so you can say things like that. Sometimes it's cheaper to have the wifey stay at home than paying someone to watch during work hours
    You could kind of make an argument about one spouse getting some percentage of the other's net worth in that case, but what service is the stay at home spouse offering to the supported after the divorce? What en les one to a continuing future paycheck from the other?

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    You have the luxury of no kids so you can say things like that. Sometimes it's cheaper to have the wifey stay at home than paying someone to watch during work hours
    That's why there's child support.

    And, again, husband and wife don't have to both work at the same time. My parents alternated shifts so one parent was always at home.

    Also, if you can't afford childcare, you can't afford children.

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    You could kind of make an argument about one spouse getting some percentage of the other's net worth in that case, but what service is the stay at home spouse offering to the supported after the divorce? What en les one to a continuing future paycheck from the other?
    This I'll agree with. Let her walk away with a one-time payment. After that, all bets should be off.

    Let it be known that all of you with intelligent takes ought to be commended. And by that I mean all of you except SpursStalker.

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    Something tells me that Mel is going to be ok.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...rs-Gibson.html


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    I concur.

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    Your point is? SpursStalker's Avatar
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    This I'll agree with. Let her walk away with a one-time payment. After that, all bets should be off.

    Let it be known that all of you with intelligent takes ought to be commended. And by that I mean all of you except SpursStalker.
    Aww you've so hurt my feelings ...


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    Aww you've so hurt my feelings ...

    I care, .

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    Go yourself.

    I'm getting divorced as we speak. I'm in the process of losing half my even though during the course of my 8 and half year marriage, I earned 80% of the income, paid 80% of the expenses and the cheated on me. So I know a little bit about getting ed in a divorce. And I'm not a rich hollywood bigshot. I make a little over $30,000 a year so half is a big ing hit to me.

    So, again, go yourself.
    Sorry to hear about that man, I hate women besides my mother and sister. This type of thing happens far too often. A coworker of mine was recently falsely accused of rape because he was leaving her, they're dirty and conniving. The vast majority of them can go to .

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    On the basis of what? What did she bring to the marriage financially? Just because they were married for a long time? Find me some proof that she earned that much of the marital assets and I'll agree.
    Its a partnership. Proof? Is 30 years not proof. 6 kids together not proof. Financially? Can you put a number on 6 kids and 30 years? How many times was he able to leave to make that money and she stayed behind taken care of those kids,house,bills,etc.... No telling what she did for him over 30 years. Thats proof to me. After 30 years and 6 kids "what his is hers and what hers is his" Now they are done, split it right down the middle.

    This is not some girl that got knocked up in a one night stand or spent a couple of years together and all of a sudden wants his money. Seriously my man, that money is just as much hers and it is his. What proof do you have that she did not help him with decsions made in move roles,director roles,producer roles,finances.

    God forbid if Gibson broke the marriage contract by getting some booty on the side. Son, don't get married if its all about who makes the money. Pretty sad if thats what you think marriage is about. I am sure she gave up ALOT in order for him to have his success. You want proof. Lamo.

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    Its a partnership. Proof? Is 30 years not proof. 6 kids together not proof. Financially? Can you put a number on 6 kids and 30 years? How many times was he able to leave to make that money and she stayed behind taken care of those kids,house,bills,etc.... No telling what she did for him over 30 years. Thats proof to me. After 30 years and 6 kids "what his is hers and what hers is his" Now they are done, split it right down the middle.

    This is not some girl that got knocked up in a one night stand or spent a couple of years together and all of a sudden wants his money. Seriously my man, that money is just as much hers and it is his. What proof do you have that she did not help him with decsions made in move roles,director roles,producer roles,finances.

    God forbid if Gibson broke the marriage contract by getting some booty on the side. Son, don't get married if its all about who makes the money. Pretty sad if thats what you think marriage is about. I am sure she gave up ALOT in order for him to have his success. You want proof. Lamo.
    Like I said in a previous post, I'll agree with the assumption that she deserves something. But not half.

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    The only thing the average homemaker deserves is child support if it is applicable, and a chance to become financially upwardly mobile.

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    So arbitrarily put the number at 50% then?

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    Like I said in a previous post, I'll agree with the assumption that she deserves something. But not half.
    The good news is they have a load of money. If you are right I doubt Gibson even gives a . I read he made 600 million off of Passions of Christ. They are LOADED.

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    The good news is they have a load of money. If you are right I doubt Gibson even gives a . I read he made 600 million off of Passions of Christ. They are LOADED.
    If he wants to give her half and get it over with, more power to him. My whole thing is he shouldn't be forced to give up half.

    Everything aside, no pre-nup, prepare to get ed.

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