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    I'm not one to harp on the zebras.... but the 2006 series left a very bad taste in my mouth...

    It's rather difficult to forget the officiating travesties that occured in Games 2, 3, 4, and 5 of that series.... Particularly Games 3 and 4.

    Yeah, yeah, I know if Manu doesn't commit that foul on Dirk in the wanning moments of regulation in Game 7... that the argument is moot... Or if Pop's stubborness to stick with midget-ball throughout the series had been dissuaded sooner... Nevertheless, I feel that the 2006 series never should have gone to seven games to begin with... Heck, it's rather astonishing that the Spurs even managed to come out with a victory in Game 5 after so many absurd calls...

    Duncan fouls out of a critical game even though Nowitzki steps on Duncan's foot... and gets called for fouls on the German even though it is clear that Dampier is shoving Duncan from behind into Dirk's body.

    Manu fouls out of another critical game, after diving for a ball and with Stackhouse clearly sitting on him...

    Dirk gets awarded 25 FTs in a single game... even when Ginobili and Parker were playing equally aggressive??? If I'm not mistaken... Bavetta was the lead official that game.

    Devin Harris steps out of bounds in a critical possession and nothing is called...

    I know these blown calls tend to even out in the course of a seven game series... but two of those games were completely atrocious.

    One more thing... Joey Crawford better not be assigned to any games in this series... If he does, that game will be a guaranteed loss.



    Spurs have overcome insurmountable odds on many occasions on their way to championships... just hope they can do that this year, even without their 4th quarter closer.

    Last edited by Phenomanul; 04-16-2009 at 09:24 AM.

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    That was a of a series, let's not taint it with the refs card. Both fanbases have earned bad reps for that, let's not add to it. This series will be won or lost by the players.

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    At least you tasted the same bitter cup when matched against D-whistle...

    Your team failed to finish the job.... way to go.

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    You don't see and mavfans typing 312 paragraphs about refs. Mavs tapped some ass in 06. Deal with it.

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    You don't see and mavfans typing 312 paragraphs about refs. Mavs tapped some ass in 06. Deal with it.
    They did during and after the 06 Finals.

    Both fan bases have sizable contingents who like to blame everybody else for their teams setbacks. Sadly they are usually the loudest you hear.

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    Refs will not be noticed. Best team will win.

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    Refs will not be noticed. Best team will win.
    Spurs will win.

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    That was a of a series, let's not taint it with the refs card. Both fanbases have earned bad reps for that, let's not add to it. This series will be won or lost by the players.
    Denial of what occured is probably a good approach... but Dallas was better equipped to take out the Spurs in 2003, not 2006....

    It's difficult to turn the other way, and suggest that the series outcome had nothing to do with the officiating in Games 3 and 4.

    Should we as fans take the high road and ignore it???.. Perhaps.

    Should we hold the truth as irrelevant?... by no means... we all saw it!!! Even typical anti-Spur analysts were baffled by the officiating in those particular games... (Adande, Paige, etc...)

    Oh well... here's to hoping that the officials aren't a factor this time around

    All I know is that the Mavs will sorely miss Devin this year....
    Last edited by Phenomanul; 04-16-2009 at 09:28 AM.

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    The refs screwed us that series plain and simple, I don't give a F*** what anyone says.

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    Pretty weak smack from Spurs fans

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    Denial of what occured is probably a good approach... but Dallas was better equipped to take out the Spurs in 2003, not 2006....

    It's difficult to turn the other way, and suggest that the series outcome had nothing to do with the officiating in Games 3 and 4.

    Should we as fans take the high road and ignore it???.. Perhaps.

    Should we hold the truth as irrelevant?... by no means... we all saw it. Even typical anti-Spur analysts were baffled by the officiating in those particular games...

    Oh well... here's to hoping that they aren't a factor this time around

    All I know is that the Mavs will sorely miss Devin this year.... Spurs' advantage.

    I'm not denying or ignoring anything, I simply disagree with your assesment of the series. Despite calls going against them, the Spurs s ll had chances to win that series and didn't. Refs don't cause a player to miss shots or free throws or cause a player to turn the ball over. I just have never believed that outcomes are predetermined and that the league and refs get together before hand and decide "hmm...I think Dallas should win this series" Are there bad calls in games? Absolutely and I think NBA officiating is some of the most inconsistent their is but, IMO, players ultimately decide the outcome.

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    Refs will not be noticed. Best team will win.
    Oh Mav fans! Jimcs50 is back. Where you been guy?

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    Pretty weak smack from Spurs fans
    Agreed....the ref smack is always weak.

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    I'm not denying or ignoring anything, I simply disagree with your assesment of the series. Despite calls going against them, the Spurs s ll had chances to win that series and didn't. Refs don't cause a player to miss shots or free throws or cause a player to turn the ball over. I just have never believed that outcomes are predetermined and that the league and refs get together before hand and decide "hmm...I think Dallas should win this series" Are there bad calls in games? Absolutely and I think NBA officiating is some of the most inconsistent their is but, IMO, players ultimately decide the outcome.
    Didn't the Mavs win Game 4 at the line???

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    Refs will only be a factor if we're playing in close games. If we make wide open shots, there won't be any close games. So, Mason, Bonner and Finley, make your open shots please.

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    Oh Mav fans! Jimcs50 is back. Where you been guy?

    Hey man. See Manu thread.

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    Agreed....the ref smack is always weak.
    Doesn't mean the truth should be ignored...

    Bad calls have and will likely continue deciding games... and series...

    Kings vs. Lakers series in '02
    Blazers vs. Lakers series in '00
    Mavs vs. Heat in '06 (as much as I detest the team, the Mavs were robbed).

    Why was Garnett not suspended during last year's playoffs?

    For that matter, why was Crawford involved in the deciding play of the Spurs vs. Lakers series last year??? Why was he even placed in that position???

    Whatever... you win some... you lose some.

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    The refs screwed us that series plain and simple, I don't give a F*** what anyone says.

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    Didn't the Mavs win Game 4 at the line???
    No.

    Both teams had 32 attempts, Dallas made 2 more. The Spurs shooting 2-7 and letting Dallas go 6-12 in OT doomed them.

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    Doesn't mean the truth should be ignored...
    I agree. And the truth of the matter is that until the NBA creates a "got screwed by the refs" consolation championship trophy then it doesn't matter whether you get screwed by bad calls or not. You still lost.

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    Denial of what occured is probably a good approach... but Dallas was better equipped to take out the Spurs in 2003, not 2006....

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    I agree. And the truth of the matter is that until the NBA creates a "got screwed by the refs" consolation championship trophy then it doesn't matter whether you get screwed by bad calls or not. You still lost.
    +1

    History only records who won and who lost..which is all that matters.

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    No.

    Both teams had 32 attempts, Dallas made 2 more. The Spurs shooting 2-7 and letting Dallas go 6-12 in OT doomed them.
    My bad... I meant to say Game 3... the one where Nowitzki was held to below 40% shooting but had like 24 or 25 freethrow attempts... the last of which won the game for the Mavs...

    Edit: that's also the game where Duncan fouled out on two bogus calls, despite the fact that he was tearing it up...

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    I agree. And the truth of the matter is that until the NBA creates a "got screwed by the refs" consolation championship trophy then it doesn't matter whether you get screwed by bad calls or not. You still lost.
    I really don't care about the past as long as it doesn't repeat itself on the same terms...

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