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    I have no problem with this man being tortured.


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    My bad. Wrong photo.



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    Why do you think this admin released that memo?

    Transparency?
    Why do you think they did?

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    My bad. Wrong photo.


    Rosie is looking pretty good these days.

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    Why do you think they did?

    Demonize Bush admin and portray the current admin as a "kinder, gentler" America.

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    I have no problem with this man being tortured.

    The fact that to you torture is a joke says something about you, Darrin.

    If you had said the same about KSM I'd have some respect for you for making a strong case, but photoshopping Rosie O' Donnell in and encouraging us to laugh at our own urge to torture someone is sneaky and pandering IMO.

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    The fact that to you torture is a joke says something about you, Darrin.

    If you had said the same about KSM I'd have some respect for you for making a strong case, but photoshopping Rosie O' Donnell in and encouraging us to laugh at our own urge to torture someone is sneaky and pandering IMO.

    Damn. Lighten up, WH.

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    Damn. Lighten up, WH.
    Topicality!

    We were talking about torture. Effing pay attention!

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    Topicality!

    We were talking about torture. Effing pay attention!

    Is this what you guys are so deadly serious about...?


    Using insects to scare someone with a phobia of insects
    Nudity and wearing diapers
    Sleep deprivation
    Waterboarding
    Is that stuff really all that bad?

    How about having to choose between burning to death and jumping to your death?

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    Damn. Lighten up, WH.
    I normally think WH is as good a poster as exists on these boards. And I wouldn't say the same about you Darrin (or myself). And I'm not bothering to go back to look at page one for context, but I can agree with that. Seemed innocuous enough to me.

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    And these same people that you bleeding hearts are so worried about would stone a woman for being caught in the company of any man who is not a blood relative.


    Heaven forbid, don't make these guys spend time in a room with a spider.

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    I normally think WH is as good a poster as exists on these boards. And I wouldn't say the same about you Darrin (or myself). And I'm not bothering to go back to look at page one for context, but I can agree with that. Seemed innocuous enough to me.

    I was flattered that he thought I took the time to Photoshop that myself.

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    I think some of you guys need to watch Patton again. That's the kind of military leadership we need - none of this moral high ground crap.

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    I think some of you guys need to watch Patton again. That's the kind of military leadership we need - none of this moral high ground crap.


    (Psst -- they don't really like the military)

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    I think some of you guys need to watch Patton again. That's the kind of military leadership we need - none of this moral high ground crap.
    lol at the pre-emptive reference to conservatives taking their policy from movies. And
    lol at crooks ass-ignorance.
    When morons like yourself can't tell the difference between the real world of intelligence gathering and the Hollywood movies that they think pass for reality, you cease becoming idiots and become dangerous idiots.

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    I thought it was funny too, but I also had a harsh reasoned response to the post. It's reflected in my somewhat ironic wording.

    Torture is not a ing joke. Sen Graham of SC described the Abu Ghraib tapes as including *serious crimes* like "rape and murder". Allegations and official disclosures of * harsh methods of interrogation* are already legion -- have you read any of them Darrin?

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    lol at the hours ago reference to conservatives taking their policy from movies.

    That was a good movie though.

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    I thought it was funny too, but I also had a harsh reasoned response to the post. It's reflected in my somewhat ironic wording.

    Torture is not a ing joke. Sen Graham of SC described the Abu Ghraib tapes as including *serious crimes* like "rape and murder".
    There was a leadership problem at Abu Ghraib and that situation was dealt with.

    Allegations and official disclosures of * harsh methods of interrogation* are already legion -- have you read any of them Darrin?
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    As a rule, I'm against REAL torture. I don't have any issue with the list of unpleasantries in the OP.

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    That was a good movie though.
    And from what I understand, it was a pretty accurate depiction of General Patton.

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    I think some of you guys need to watch Patton again. That's the kind of military leadership we need - none of this moral high ground crap.
    How about protecting our troops?

    If we're not only known to torture prisoners but advertise it as our official policy, defined officially as non-torture of course, are our troops more or less likely to be mistreated? Reciprocity governs relations between nations friendly and unfriendly. Isn't having a policy of mistreating prisoners foolish?

    We also introduced the mirage of due diligence by having doctors monitior *stressed out* prisoners, thereby quashing any imputation as to motive: physicians were present. No harm was intended, or at least -- no critical, legally defined threshold of pain.

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    yeah, if only patton could get al-qaeda to line up like germans.

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    And from what I understand, it was a pretty accurate depiction of General Patton.
    According to legend, Patton had a high, whiny, feminine voice.

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    Torture will not cease to exist it'll just be better hidden.

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    According to legend, Patton had a high, whiny, feminine voice.
    that would have never worked on the big screen.

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    Torture will not cease to exist it'll just be better hidden.
    Having it as official policy is stupid.

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