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I have no problem with scoring even RDS. I have seen so many fights where there was no edge at all either way and a 10-10 rd was the answer. But i can't see how Leites got the first 2 rds.
"Confused on how to score the action-free first round in the UFC middleweight le match between Anderson Silva and Thales Leites? So were the judges. Doug Crosby gave the round to Silva, “Doc” Hamilton scored it for Silva and Benoit Roussel scored the round a rare 10-10 tie, something within the rules but frowned upon by the athletic commissions. Crosby and Roussel both gave Silva the last four rounds, while Hamilton gave Leites the first two rounds and Silva the final three."
That is a quote from an article on Yahoo Sports.
I have no problem with scoring even RDS. I have seen so many fights where there was no edge at all either way and a 10-10 rd was the answer. But i can't see how Leites got the first 2 rds.
Sherdog..
Silva Wins Snoozer; ‘Shogun’ Stops Liddell
Sunday, April 19, 2009
by Brian Knapp
Even as middleweight champion Anderson Silva ascended to the top of the Octagon, his arms raised in triumph, showers of boos rained down upon him.
It was hardly a king’s reception.
Silva went the distance for the first time in almost five years, as he retained his middleweight crown in a unanimous decision victory against Thales Leites in the main event at UFC 97 “Redemption” on Saturday at the Bell Centre in Montreal. Scores were 49-46, 48-47 and 50-46.
Post-fight talked revolved around the crowd’s negative reaction.
“It’s unfortunate,” Silva said. “Sometimes things don’t work out like the public likes it to. Sometimes when you’re not in here, it’s hard to tell what’s going on, but basically [I’m] sorry. Next time, I’ll give a better performance.”
The win put Silva in the record books, as he passed UFC hall of famer Royce Gracie and Jon Fitch for most consecutive victories inside the Octagon with his ninth. The 34-year-old Brazilian absorbed almost no damage in the five-round affair, but he never had Leites on the ropes, either. His weapon of choice became a front leg side kick to his countryman’s knee and quadriceps. Silva used the kicks repeatedly in the middle and latter rounds, perhaps 20 times by fight’s end, and though Leites’ lead leg buckled several times, his resolve held firm.
“Thales Leites is a very tough opponent,” Silva said. “Sometimes we can’t always come out here and give a spectacular show. He’s a tough guy, and I know I have to do what the public wants, but sometimes it doesn’t work out that way.”
Leites put Silva on his back in the second round and transitioned to half guard before his progress stalled. The always-dangerous Silva attacked with elbows to the top of his head from the bottom and ultimately returned to a standing position. With that, Leites missed his only real chance at victory. He was never again successful in getting the champion to the ground, and on his feet, he was little more than a sitting duck.
A Brazilian jiu-jitsu world champion based out of the Nova Uniao camp, Leites crumpled to the ground repeatedly as he tried in vain to lure Silva to the mat. The champion’s frustration grew throughout the fight, but he refused to engage Leites on the ground and fought an intelligent strategic bout.
The loss snapped a five-fight winning streak for Leites (14-2), who still has never been finished. Silva (24-4), meanwhile, has won nine straight dating back to his disqualification loss to Yushin Okami in January 2006.
Rua bounced back in grand style.‘Shogun’ drops, finishes Liddell
Mauricio “Shogun” Rua looked like his old self. Chuck Liddell just looked old.
The flashy 27-year-old Brazilian stopped the former light heavyweight champion on first-round strikes in the co-main event. Rua dropped Liddell with a lead left hook and finished him off with hammerfists on the ground 4:28 into round one.
“I’m very happy,” Rua said. “Liddell is a legend in MMA.”
Rua’s gameplan was clear from the outset, as he attacked Liddell’s lead leg with kicks and kept him honest with overhand rights. The 2005 Pride middleweight grand prix winner took down Liddell and threatened him with a leg lock before the two light heavyweights resumed their exchanges standing.
In his first appearance since his brutal knockout loss to Rashad Evans last summer, Liddell’s moments were few and far between. He answered Rua’s takedown with one of his own but failed to consolidate it with any damage on the ground. Once the two men stood, Rua looked for an opening and capitalized.
“I’m disappointed,” Liddell said. “I had a great camp. I was in great shape. I was ready to go, and things weren’t firing quite right.”
Liddell (21-7), who turns 40 in December, has lost four of his last five bouts. Once the sport’s most dominant light heavyweight, he now must face the inevitable questions regarding a potential retirement.
“I gotta go home and talk to everybody,” Liddell said. “I don’t know. I just didn’t feel right tonight.”
Soszynski subs Stann
One-time World Extreme Cagefighting light heavyweight champion Brian Stann received a rude welcome to the Octagon from Krzysztof Soszynski.
Soszynski (17-8-1), a far superior and more experienced ground fighter, finished Stann with a kimura 3:53 into the first round and handed the Marine his second straight defeat. A product of season eight of “The Ultimate Fighter,” Soszynski scored twice with takedowns and mounted Stann (6-2) with ease midway through round one. After the second takedown, the International Fight League veteran passed quickly to side control, locked up the kimura and coaxed the tapout, as Stann grimaced in noticeable pain.
“I always go for the kimura,” said Soszynski, a Polish-born Canadian who has finished three consecutive opponents with the hold. “This is the best feeling ever. This is unbelievable.”
Kongo outclasses Hardonk
Seemingly always on the periphery as a heavyweight contender, French kickboxer Cheick Kongo brutalized Antoni Hardonk with ground-and-pound en route to a second-round stoppage. The end came 2:29 into round two.
Kongo (14-4-1) has won five of his past six fights, including three straight. The 33-year-old outclassed Hardonk once the two men left their feet. Inside the Dutchman’s guard, Kongo battered Hardonk (8-5) with close-quarters strikes until he covered up and finished him with hammerfists. Based out of the famed Vos Gym, Hardonk’s offense was limited to leg kicks, though he mounted little else of substance against Kongo.
Cane bests tough Cantwell
In the first main card bout at UFC 97, Luis Arthur Cane outlasted former World Extreme Cagefighting light heavyweight champion Steve Cantwell and notched a unanimous decision in an entertaining and highly compe ive bout. Scores were 30-27, 30-27 and 29-28 in a match that never went to the ground.
Cane (10-1, 1 NC) dictated the pace early, as he used pinpoint striking and controlled the action from the center of the Octagon. Jabs, straight lefts and left uppercuts flowed freely from the gifted Brazilian, who also battered his opponent in the clinch with knees to the body against the cage. Still, Cantwell did not go away. The 22-year-old found his rhythm in round two, as he stung Cane with kicks to the head and body.
Pushed into a third round for the first time in his career, Cane finished strong, as his power punches, kicks and knees took their toll on Cantwell (7-2), who saw his four-fight winning streak grind to a halt in his second UFC appearance.
Stout’s body shots give him edge over Wiman
Sam Stout’s investment in body blows paid dividends against Matt Wiman, as he notched a unanimous decision victory in a featured lightweight match. All three judges scored it 29-28 in Stout’s favor.
Wiman (10-5) pushed a relentless pace early, but he left himself open to Stout’s more technical striking game. The bearded Colorado native scored with a pair of first-round takedowns but failed to neutralize Stout once the action hit the mat. In one instance, his aggressiveness cost him, as Stout rolled into his guard as he attempted to latch himself onto the Canadian’s back.
Stout (14-5-1) tightened his hold on the match in the second round, as he floored Wiman with a left hook to the body. Though he failed to finish “The Ultimate Fighter 5” alum, his attack took plenty of steam out of Wiman’s attack.
Wiman delivered a pair of takedowns in the final round and cut the Shawn Tompkins protégé near his left eye with an elbow on the ground, but it was not enough to sway the judges.
Anderson Greesing himself, someone call BJ Penn's Lawyer right now, this can not stand..
thats such a small nothing amount...bah...
Shogun paints a violent picture!!! ^^^^^^
From a total punches/kicks Thales was an author of 3 and Silva 1
You have stats for this..
Hey, I still can count that high ...
How many punches was Leites throwing when he was flopping on his back, and covering up? Because that's about all he did for 90% of the fight..
Thales Leites' Passivity in Numbers
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/4/19...ity-in-numbers
Strikes per RD
Round Silva Leites
1 17 8
2 19 16
3 44 13
4 36 13
5 32 13
That says it all
Hurry up and watch before its gone ASAP
And to tell a even bigger story....no take towns worth mentioning.
Having a historical database of statistics is nice because it allows you to answer the question: In the grand scheme of things, how bad was the Silva-Leites fight? Was it just a little bad, historically bad, or the worst le fight of all time? To answer this question, we're going to analyze three different statistics:
Total "Events": An "event" in this case means anything that happens in a fight no matter how trivial. This includes every strike attempt, no matter how small, and also has all takedown attempts, standups, position changes, and submissions. A fight with a low total number of "events" would be one where the guys just stood around for a while.
Total Significant "Events": This number takes away all the low-value strike attempts (like the tiny jabs in the clinch and on the ground) and all defensive grappling actions. A fight with a low number of significant events probably meant a lot of time stalling in the clinch or a lay-and-pray situtation where only little shots were thrown.
Significant Strikes Landed: This is the total number of high-value strikes landed. If you don’t care much about activity and only care about watching two guys wail on each other, this is the measure for you.
The four le fights that we'll be looking at are Silva-Leites, Arlovski-Sylvia III, Pulver-Hallman, and Ortiz-Matyushenko. The numbers you see will be the combined totals for both fighters in the match.
Total "Events"
Silva-Leites: 236
Pulver-Hallman: 247
Ortiz-Matyushenko: 420
Arlovski-Sylvia III: 594
To start, we see that the le fight last night had the lowest total activity of any five-round decision in UFC history. To get an idea for how low 236 total events is, consider that 236 over 25 minutes means less than 10 events per minute. Average that across both fighters and it's less than 5 events per minute per fighter. That means that if you spaced these events evenly over the course of the fight, for every one thing a fighter did (no matter how small), you'd have to wait about 12 more seconds before he did anything again.
^^^^^fanpost from bloodyelbow.com
Nate Quarry looked good. Did you guys know that Steve Blake trains with Quarry in the off-season?
Great article Evan..
I'd have to say as far as i can remember, the 3 worst le fights i have ever seen were Sylvia/Arlovski 3, Tim Sylvia Vs Jeff Monson and this fight. It was just awful, all the way around..
It was probably more than what Nurse applied to GSP that got wiped off and Silva did it to himself. BJ's mom and Lawyer, must be pissed..
Number one thing is that Leites is not a striker. And when somebody is not a striker and fights somebody who is dancing for about a minute before initiating an action - you ahave a result.
I hate Silva but that doesn't mean I'm blind. He dominated Leites in an absolute in rounds 3,4,5.
The situation when Leites had Silva on ground and could do nothing I knew it was over for him. It was hard to him do aything maybe because Silva got a good startegy of defending himself down and he is really slim, so he finds a way to get out of certain situations and go back to his feet.
Dan Henderson was unable to do anything as well. Whe he was able to control Silva on the ground he was unable to do any significant demage.
PS. Any language errors/mistakes ?
THANK YOU Evan. I've been looking for this one.
Excellent last blog for the event. Lots of Chuck backstage, GSP watching the Silva fight and Dana in disbelief at how ty it was..
After Liddell, Shogun eyes special rematch
Monday 20th of April 2009 02:12 PM
By Guilherme Cruz
Last Saturday was a special night for the Brazilian fans. Watching the “underdog” Maurício “Shogun” Rua knocking the former UFC champion Chuck Liddell out in the UFC 97 co-main event was great, but the Brazilian doesn’t want to celebrate too much. After the fight, Shogun already thinks about coming back to training and his next challenge.
“Since the start I was very motivated, and it was important. I’ve trained hard, very focused, more prepared physically and mentally, so I got there ready to show my work and everything I’ve trained”, says Shogun, pleased to introduce himself to the American fans. “Actually, I haven’t had fight well in the UFC, so I knew I needed to show my potential to the American fans, and it all depended on me. I wasn’t easy, but I could show them… I’ll train even more to keep this focus”.
Going to a two weeks trip with his wife to relax, the Brazilian put his UFC future in his manager’s hands, but gives some tips to the matchmaker Joe Silva. “Nobody spoke yet (about my next fight), but my goal is to win the next one. I’m already focused for the next fight. I’ll fight anyone, but a rematch (with Forrest Griffin) would be welcome. He’s a good fighter and it’d be a good fight. I’ll fight anyone, but it’d be cool to fight him again, I’d love it”.
About the main event of the evening, Rua doesn’t criticize Anderson Silva about his performance. “The truth is that Anderson did the right thing, he fought well and didn’t get too much exposed. If he goes inside from the beginning, Thales would have more chances, and Thales waited for Anderson. Anderson managed his goal, the victory”, finished Shogun, in exclusive interview to TATAME.com.
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