I don't have to prove anything to you. You can think I'm a fan of whoever.No, I certainly don't see you seeing TP being unclassy. You walked into this thread blindly defending him and suggesting that anyone that's critical of him is happy to see him fail. There's certainly no evidence any of that's going to change. Perhaps you should just change your name to Spur09fan and be done with it.
To me there isn't. I know you do and you think its French side. My question was why do you think it's his french side? Shows prejudice.But I thought you said that there's nothing wrong with anything he said. Are you trying to change the subject, again?
I'm female btw. And hopefully TP keeps his opinions to himself to please you. Heaven foribid he speak his mind.Not nearly as scared as he would be if he didn't have you to sweep in and have his back, cowboy.
Kace, if you just look at the boxscore TP had a good game. But when you actually watch the game you can see he struggled and his team lost. He looked tired, got caught up in going 1v1 with Barea and did not run the offense very well at times.
Like it or not, TP is a finals MVP and he has higher standards than most. When you watch the game, you cannot tell me that you thought TP played at the level he has all season long.
Tp was spot on with Barea flopping. That's the Ginobili does that gets everyone pissed off. TP knows how to tell it like it is.
I agree TP didn't play to his potential. But to call him unclassy is something else.
That was all
I fully expect TP to have a monster game on Monday. TP was not the only problem, but he can go a long way to ensure a win in game 2. He has bounced back after sub-par performances all year (and there have not been many) and if I was a betting man I would say TP absolutely owns next game.
Parker won't admit Barea played good on him. that's the way he is. He doesn't think Barea can stop him because Barea isn't a star. it's partially false since it's not the first time barea did a good job against him. but if that's the way TP can fire himself to get hot next game, you should back him. Especially when his comments are really not so special or y, or insulting, even if not classy though. (he just said he flopped a little bit, that's right ?)
Tim will say Dampier played well. it's a different mindset and Tim has also been criticized for being too classy and not enough proud (which is false).
Everyone has his own way to react, and as long as it stays really far from trash talking, we shouldn't see any problem in this.
It's not like your posts in this thread require anyone to guess who you are a fan of.
The same reason I think your defense of Parker is part blind devotion and part ignorance. He said Barea was flopping when he clearly wasn't. It was a classless remark. You don't think so. Tells me all I need to know about you.
Speaking his mind is one thing. Heaven forbid he have any class when he does it. I simply made an observation. If he continues this way he's going to have more to worry about than little old me and you're going to be really busy trying to defend him.
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Let's get real Tony missed alot of shots he usually makes it just that simple. You'll see over the course of the series he will make most of what he missed last night. He got a little caught up trying to go one on one. But he'll get his head straight and we'll probly forget about gay j. but the time the series is over.
i saw the game. and TP wasn't good enough for this team to win. and i will add that if TP stays at this level through the PO, as good as a 24-8 average is, it will be disappointing considering the superstar level we're all waiting him to be.
still, 24-8 cannot be considered a fail IMO.
Taken by itself, it would be laughed off. I've done that two or three times this year with things Parker has said, and I'm simply worried that he's becoming too comfortable just saying whatever he thinks when there's a microphone in his face, and it won't take many more of those before he develops a reputation. If I didn't like him, I wouldn't be concerned about it.
And no Spurs fan in his or her right mind is going to back one of the Spurs' own players going out there sounding like Ray Allen after getting good clean defense put on them.
No one said he failed. Someone made the TP big brother comment that Spurs fans "like to see TP fail". No one said TP failed at all, we simply said he did not play well.
Calling a guy out in a press conference for flopping when he drew legitimate charges is not classy, and there's not any way to defend it. I criticized AJ when he made his "bear-hug" defense comments, and there's not a player or coach on the Spurs I wouldn't go after if they did the same thing. That uncomfortable quotes from Tony Parker is starting to become a pattern worries me, and I simply mentioned it while we were on the topic. You are welcome to go browse another thread, but I'm done defending myself from Parker's ing harem as though I haven't been rooting for him for ten years.
And I never even said he didn't play well, I just said Barea wasn't "flopping".
tony is y. nothing really bad or out of limits like KG, Marbury, KB or assholes like that. he seems to be a good guy. but he could be y and confident. but in this league, it just would be amazing if Tony had a reputation of being arrogant considering the level of arrogance all around.
indeed, i thought barea flopped. He defended well, and you could argue that flop is part of the defense, but he still flopped IMO.
but what amazed me is that whenever an opponent has a good game and he's a PG, it turns in a TP thing.
what about in Dampier being a beast on defense, outrebounding Tim and being 5-6 on offense. he scored almost as much as barea on less than half attempts. Dampier ? but, hey, it's Tim, so....
The fact that Barea was able to take him out of his game leads one to believe he did not play well (compared to the level the Spurs need him at.) Barea did a great job. If he can keep it up then hats off to the guy.
I think TP owns from here on out, but other things need to be addressed as well if the Spurs are going to advance.
manu needs to see more minutes in the playoffs
First of all, I can't for the life of me imagine why when an opposing point guard has a good game that somehow it turns into "a TP thing" considering Parker is the only point guard on the roster and plays the lion's share of the minutes. Must be a coincidence.
Second, none of that has any place in this thread. The criticism of Parker in this thread is primarily based upon what he said to the reporters. Your mischaracterizations of the people that are giving fair opinions on that topic as being Parker-haters adds nothing to the discussion.
If you want to know my opinions about the game, look in the top twenty threads, and I have dozens of posts giving my opinions on the subjects. If you want to start bad mouthing Tim Duncan because I said Parker's postgame quote concerns me, I'll tell you to stop changing the ing subject or go to the correct thread to about how ty you think Duncan is. Otherwise I'm liable to accuse people of just bird-dogging the Parker threads to make sure nobody says anything negative about him.
I agree
it is always tp faults spurs lose
tp played at a low level for him today
but duncan should have had more rebounds and atleast one block he had NONE
i don't want to bad mouth Tim. he had a decent/good game. but these days, it seems that the "Duncan stopper" label has never been so claimed. i've seen many bigs doing well against him this year. and that's not a good sign. really worse that seeing a backup PG doing a good job here and there against Tony.
and still you see tons of post about the second fact and almost none about the first one.
If he is over the top on his remarks I won't bother defending him. I just don't think he made a classless remark. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend? He didn't make a classless remark, he was speaking his mind. I think Barea was flopping, kind of like ginobili does. if Barea can get away with it he's goin to do it.
bass and diamber went off and howard
tp had nothing to do with those two
Once again you fail to recognize that when watching the game, TP looked like the one struggling. Not to mention he is fully healthy (TD is not) and Finley does not have the same expectations as TP.
No one is saying this loss was all on TP. Most are in agreement that even though his stat line looked nice, when you watched the game he clearly struggled.
Many things need to be corrected in order for the Spurs to win, but Barea played a great game against TP.
Barea flopped plenty out there, but also did a good job of staying in front of Parker on defense and attacking on offense.
And Pop's quotes suck. Great job? Really?
I cannot believe the innacuarcy of these quotes. Just to start with Pop and compare what he actually said to these accounts.
What they say he said:
What he really said:
Good vs. great? Maybe not such a big deal.
But the edited quote misses Pop's comment about the Mavs' bench winning the game for them. That's a major misquote IMO.
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