Kendrick Perkins: "Rose will never have another game like that against us."

[z0sa]

Why, Lakers were #1 in the WCF standings last year when Bynum went down and right before they got Gasol.

LA won the #1 seed in 2008 by two games with gasol in for the entire post all-star break. Without gasol, they aren't better than 5 seed by season's end.

[Allanon]

he is already better than all of them in their rookie years.

People were saying he was as good as CP3/DWill/Tony Parker...RIGHT NOW (this original discussion was back in November 2008, I think).

[Allanon]

LA won the #1 seed in 2008 by two games with gasol in for the entire post all-star break. Without gasol, they aren't better than 5 seed by season's end.

Prior to Gasol coming to LA, the Lakers had already achieve the #1 seed with just Bynum.

This year, with just Kobe/Bynum/Odom/Ariza/Fisher + Marc Gasol, they would probably also be #1, just not by an 11 game margin.

[Amaso]

I said that Rose is not a Winner and not The Man. He can't lead his team through adversity. I did say he's a good player. I also said he doesn't belong in the same conversation with Derron Williams and CP3. Everybody was trying to say he's just as good, I said he wasn't.

Derrick Rose is a good player when the going is good...but with the team down 20, the team stays down.

And I'll say it now, a Derrick Rose led team will never be more than Playoff fodder. He's a good 2nd/3rd player on a team, but not The Man on a team.

How can you make all these assumptions... this is his first year in the NBA.

[sook]

Rose is already the best player in the entire NBAs

[Findog]

How many times did the Bulls come from behind double digits and win a game?

Off the top of my head, they erased a 20-point lead by the Mavericks early in the season. Just admit you're totally off-base on Rose. He's ahead of where CP3 and Deron were as rookies, and if you think he's not going to reach their heights within the next 2-3 years, I don't know what to tell you.

[Allanon]

How can you make all these assumptions... this is his first year in the NBA.

Prediction since November, I'm sticking with it until he proves me wrong.

[hater]

Prediction since November, I'm sticking with it until he proves me wrong.

how is he gonna have to prove you wrong? by winning a championship in his rookie year???

[tso & lo Cavfanatic]

Rose >>>>>> Rondo

[Allanon]

Off the top of my head, they erased a 20-point lead by the Mavericks early in the season.

No offense, but alot of teams erased huge leads versus the Mavericks this year.

Just admit you're totally off-base on Rose. He's ahead of where CP3 and Deron were as rookies, and if you think he's not going to reach their heights within the next 2-3 years, I don't know what to tell you.

When you're right, I'll admit you're right. We won't have to wait long, let's see what he does tonight against some adversity.

There's no way Derrick Rose is as good as CP3/DWill/TPark RIGHT NOW (yes, that was said in the original conversation back then).

If you don't recall, people weren't comparing them in their rookie years, it was DRose rookie vs those 3 veterans, not their rookies.

[Allanon]

how is he gonna have to prove you wrong? by winning a championship in his rookie year???

No, just has to win this 1st round series. He's up 1-0, he just needs to win 3 more. Anything less is a chokejob.

If Rose wins this series, I will grovel to you Rose lovers.

Let's see DRose take advantage of a Celtics team missing their star player.

[Chris Fall]

I would have Perkins fouled out in the first quarter if we were playing the Celtics.

[Findog]

No offense, but alot of teams erased huge leads versus the Mavericks this year.

And vice versa, Mavs had a lot of comeback wins this year too. Be careful, you may end up eliminating us in 6 games in the conference finals. We're not some trash team.

[Allanon]

And vice versa, Mavs had a lot of comeback wins this year too. Be careful, you may end up eliminating us in 6 games in the conference finals. We're not some trash team.

Like I said, no offense. I do appreciate the game that Dirk and the Mavs bring. The Mavs are the last team I would talk about.

[Tacker]

Sorry, your boy Rose just ain't gonna do a repeat performance tonight. Most likely, he's gonna get curbstomped.

I ain't no Celtics lover, but they will win easily tonight.

I doubt it

[Tacker]

Nah, it's based on his games this year.

How many times did the Bulls come from behind double digits and win a game? None in all the games I watched. I missed half the games but if you watch Derrick Rose play, it almost seems like he's too cool to be in a hurry.

Next time you see the Bulls down 15 points in the 4th quarter, watch Rose... is he trying to win the game or does he still look like he's playing the first quarter.

You missed the Rockets game didnt you?

[sook]

I will go out and buy a derrick rose jersey sometime soon.

[Allanon]

You missed the Rockets game didnt you?

Probably, I only watched about 30 Bulls games. Most of the games I watched, the Bulls lost. There were no comebacks, no rallies.

But I have an open mind, let's watch this Bulls/Celtics series play out. Rose has the upper-hand now with 1-0 in the series. And the Celtics are without their superstar.

I don't care if KG's out, if Rose can win this series, I'll take back all I've said bad about DRose.

But, if Rose gives this series back to the Celtics, he's just being the Derrick Rose that I've seen too many times before.

[Tacker]

Probably, I only watched about 30 Bulls games. Most of the games I watched, the Bulls lost. There were no comebacks, no rallies.

But I have an open mind, let's watch this Bulls/Celtics series play out. Rose has the upper-hand now with 1-0 in the series. And the Celtics are without their superstar.

I don't care if KG's out, if Rose can win this series, I'll take back all I've said bad about DRose.

But, if Rose gives this series back to the Celtics, he's just being the Derrick Rose that I've seen too many times before.

Ya that Rockets game the Bulls were down 17 with 5 min to go and Rose scored 13 straight points enroute to a win.

Why would one series give you your saying on the future of the Rookie? I don't think any rookie whether its Michael Jordan, Kobe, Chris Paul if put in place of Rose this year would make it past the series. Ya they don't have KG but they still managed to win 60+ games with him injured and thats far off better than the Bulls.

[DPG21920]

Do you agree that Rose > Fish+Brown+Elf?

[hater]

I will go out and buy a derrick rose jersey sometime soon.

me too.

he is already my favorite player in the East. He is not flashy, not y and not hyped by the media. And he let's his game speak for itself.

[Tacker]

Probably, I only watched about 30 Bulls games. Most of the games I watched, the Bulls lost. There were no comebacks, no rallies.

But I have an open mind, let's watch this Bulls/Celtics series play out. Rose has the upper-hand now with 1-0 in the series. And the Celtics are without their superstar.

I don't care if KG's out, if Rose can win this series, I'll take back all I've said bad about DRose.

But, if Rose gives this series back to the Celtics, he's just being the Derrick Rose that I've seen too many times before.

Jordan his rookie year gave the series away to the Celtics, look at what he has achieved. I dont know what youre trying to say here.

[Tacker]

me too.

he is already my favorite player in the East. He is not flashy, not y and not hyped by the media. And he let's his game speak for itself.

Like Tim Duncan.

[hater]

Jordan his rookie year gave the series away to the Celtics, look at what he has achieved. I dont know what youre trying to say here.

I don't think even he knows.

[hater]

Like Tim Duncan.