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    Hi,

    Is there a religion/belief something for people who believe in god but not organized religion....basically doubt the bible (parts of it that is) who also believe in big bang theory and in evolution and the whole monkey human thing..where do these ppl fit in?

    I myself am like this i dont really believe god created earth in 7 days I believe there is a god but science is a part of it too.. so when ppl ask me my religion im not sure what to say? i normally say i believe in god just dont follow religion.. hmm. this has always confused me!!! any insights.

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    As far as I know, there's no term other than non-church-going Christian. And of course you describe intelligent design.

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    Hi,

    Is there a religion/belief something for people who believe in god but not organized religion....basically doubt the bible (parts of it that is) who also believe in big bang theory and in evolution and the whole monkey human thing..where do these ppl fit in?

    I myself am like this i dont really believe god created earth in 7 days I believe there is a god but science is a part of it too.. so when ppl ask me my religion im not sure what to say? i normally say i believe in god just dont follow religion.. hmm. this has always confused me!!! any insights.
    There's a few different ones. How do you view God? Is he a discrete figure who you believe takes actions and interferes with humanity? (Most religions) Or is he just a figure out there who doesn't really care about us? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeismOr maybe you think he's a spirit that resides in everything? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Pantheism) Or that the entire world itself makes up a single being, a God of a sort? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_pantheism)

    Give me some idea of how you view this God/god and I can help you out further.

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    Well you can say, I believe, I believe in something I just dont believe exactly like the church and the bible tell me to believe, I believe on my own way.

    This is also how I myself believe, on my own way, but im still religious and christian.

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    Deism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

    Many of our founding fathers were deists, and rejected the idea of organized religion, including Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson.

    Today, some might call this Unitarianism too.

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    "so when ppl ask me my religion im not sure what to say?"

    how about: NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS (or silence, although your silence will be too subtle a message for the ppl to understand)

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    "so when ppl ask me my religion im not sure what to say?"

    how about: NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS (or silence, although your silence will be too subtle a message for the ppl to understand)
    That should never be a Christian's answer.

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    Modern Unitarianism is eclectic to the point of welcoming atheists, religious non-prac ioners and doubters of various stripes. The gripe that it hoists reason over revelation and runs to natural religion is mostly warranted IMO, Wm. Ellery Channing's famous 1819 speech notwithstanding

    Unitarianism is congregational, so the degree of identifiable Christianity to be found in its churches can vary a little, but any conventionally observant person is bound to find it more than a little odd.

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    "That should never be a Christian's answer."

    That's exactly the at ude that "Christians" use to justify their "right" to pry into anybody's private life.

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    "That should never be a Christian's answer."

    That's exactly the at ude that "Christians" use to justify their "right" to pry into anybody's private life.
    Uhh, how is the fact that a Christian should never refuse to answer a question about their religion part of the at ude you state?

    I just know every Christian is supposed to be a preacher spreading the word, so a Christian refusing to talk about their religion when asked is violating a major concept of the faith.

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    Modern Unitarianism is eclectic to the point of welcoming atheists, religious non-prac ioners and doubters of various stripes. The gripe that it hoists reason over revelation and runs to natural religion is mostly warranted IMO, Wm. Ellery Channing's famous 1819 speech notwithstanding

    Unitarianism is congregational, so the degree of identifiable Christianity to be found in its churches can vary a little, but any conventionally observant person is bound to find it more than a little odd.
    Went to a UU congregation auction/fund-raiser this weekend. Nice people. Nothing religious binds them together per se, but they are all liberal.

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    Uhh, how is the fact that a Christian should never refuse to answer a question about their religion part of the at ude you state?

    I just know every Christian is supposed to be a preacher spreading the word, so a Christian refusing to talk about their religion when asked is violating a major concept of the faith.
    The Great Commission (Matthew 28:16-30, Mark 16:14-18, Luke 24:44-49, Acts 1:4-8 and John 20: 19-23) is widely held as authoritative.

    Extra Stout?

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    "I just know every Christian is supposed to be a preacher spreading the word"

    How do you know that?

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    "I just know every Christian is supposed to be a preacher spreading the word"

    How do you know that?
    It's what I was taught as a kid (when I WAS christian), and every body I've ever known who was Christian (or was raised such) was taught.

    I'm sure there's something about it in the New Testament, or possibly some of the other apocraphyl writings. You'd have to ask someone who's more familiar with the Bible since I haven't cracked it open in something like 17 years.

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    LOL @ all you guys responding to a poster who clearly just wanted to spam the website in his sig.

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    Hi,

    Is there a religion/belief something for people who believe in god but not organized religion....basically doubt the bible (parts of it that is) who also believe in big bang theory and in evolution and the whole monkey human thing..where do these ppl fit in?

    I myself am like this i dont really believe god created earth in 7 days I believe there is a god but science is a part of it too.. so when ppl ask me my religion im not sure what to say? i normally say i believe in god just dont follow religion.. hmm. this has always confused me!!! any insights.
    what exactly is the point of your questions?

    Are you looking to join a group of others that believe the way you do or do you just want a label so that when people ask what religion you subscribe to, you will finally be able to tell them? or both?

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    LOL @ all you guys responding to a poster who clearly just wanted to spam the website in his sig.
    Hey, why not. Sometimes that leads to very interesting discussions.

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    LOL @ all you guys responding to a poster who clearly just wanted to spam the website in his sig.
    I have sigs turned off.

    I thought it might a regular poster using a troll so as not to get flamed

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    It's what I was taught as a kid (when I WAS christian), and every body I've ever known who was Christian (or was raised such) was taught.

    I'm sure there's something about it in the New Testament, or possibly some of the other apocraphyl writings. You'd have to ask someone who's more familiar with the Bible since I haven't cracked it open in something like 17 years.
    it's always a great idea to tell someone they are violating a major concept of the Bible when you haven't even cracked open the Bible in 17 years.

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    it's always a great idea to tell someone they are violating a major concept of the Bible when you haven't even cracked open the Bible in 17 years.
    I didn't say major concept of the Bible, I said major concept of the faith.

    Big difference there.

    I am exposed to, and talk about, Christian beliefs (well, and other religions to a lesser extent) on a regular basis. I still know a lot of what's in the Bible, just not the exact locations or wording. I'm sure I could find something to support it if I wanted to bother flipping through any of the Bible's I have.

    Oh, and I was wrong on the years. I forgot about the JW's I used to talk with every week. Make that just 10 years

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    I didn't say major concept of the Bible, I said major concept of the faith.

    Big difference there.

    I am exposed to, and talk about, Christian beliefs (well, and other religions to a lesser extent) on a regular basis. I still know a lot of what's in the Bible, just not the exact locations or wording. I'm sure I could find something to support it if I wanted to bother flipping through any of the Bible's I have.
    It's always a great idea to tell someone they are violating a major concept of their faith when you haven't even cracked open the book they use as the basis of that faith in 17 years.

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    Oh, and I was wrong on the years. I forgot about the JW's I used to talk with every week. Make that just 10 years
    It's always a great idea to tell someone they are violating a major concept of their faith when you haven't even cracked open the book they use as the basis of that faith in 10 years.

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    It's always a great idea to tell someone they are violating a major concept of their faith when you haven't even cracked open the book they use as the basis of that faith in 10 years.
    Oh please. The majority of Christians I've met haven't read a significant portion of the Bible. The basis of the faith is now the words spouted by the ordained in the various sects and denominations. They might know appropriate quotes to support some of their more common dicussions, but they really only know what they've been told.

    At least I've actually read all the Old Testament, most of the New Testament, a healthy portion of apocraphyl texts, various papers on Chrstianity and it's history, etc. That's more than ANY non-ordained Christian I've met can say.

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    Oh please. The majority of Christians I've met haven't read a significant portion of the Bible.
    I don't see any of them on here saying " a Christian refusing to talk about their religion when asked is violating a major concept of the faith."

    At least I've actually read all the Old Testament, most of the New Testament, a healthy portion of apocraphyl texts, various papers on Chrstianity and it's history, etc. That's more than ANY non-ordained Christian I've met can say.
    and you are wrong. congratulations.

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    I don't see any of them on here saying " a Christian refusing to talk about their religion when asked is violating a major concept of the faith."
    Like I said, it's what I and every Christian I've ever met was taught. Whether they are on here or not saying it doesn't change that.

    and you are wrong. congratulations.
    I don't see any of the acknowledged Christians on here disagreeing with me either, so you're jumping the gun a bit there. Are you a Christian and were you taught different?

    I know your obsessed with proving me wrong, but you haven't proposed anything to argue against the statement. Someone posted Bible verses above relating to Jesus telling the Disciples to spread the word. Many denominiation and sects have taken that as a command to all followers, not just the specific subset of Disciples.

    Although I would like to apologize for the second paragraph in my last post though. I went a little too far in my attempt to stress how little most of the "Christians" I know have paid any attention to the Bible, and ended up focusing too much on what I've studied. It was completely irrelevant and I shouldn't have gone there.

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