Ericka Dampier: I will punish Parker on Thursday

[samikeyp]

I'm curious.

Why is it when a Spurs fan drops the refs card, its whining but when a Mavs fan does it, its legit?

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Is he? Didn't he get bumped by Dampier last night, followed by that Terry cheap shot? I saw him get back up and keep on attacking the basket.
And that's really the problem. Short of actually injuring the guy with a flagrant two, there's not much you can do. The only way I know you can intimidate Tony is putting an actual shot blocker near the rim. That's when he stops penetrating. But Dallas doesn't really have a guy like that.

It wasn't much of a cheap shot by Terry, except to Parker lovers. Parker is the one who initiated the contact with Terry, and Terry just held his ground much better. I don't see how that should be a flagrant, since Tony was the one who tried to draw the foul by initiating the contact and running straight into Terry. He made no attempt to go around him. But since Terry leaned into it a little, I guess I can understand why it was called as such. But when players are trying to draw fouls like Parker did, I think its stupid that if the guy they jump into simply holds their ground better, should get called for a flagrant.

The Dampier thing was because he got knocked over and they got tangled up. There was no intent to bump as you suggest.

What was also bogus was when Gooden jumped for the rebound, landed on Howard, and Howard got called for the foul. That made no sense, as he was the one that jumped over Howard's body.

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"Javie sucks! Javie sucks!"

[nkdlunch]

if true, Dampier is stupider than I thought

[DPG21920]

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Which is no different than the moving screens set for Nowitski or the way Duncan would get the mess hacked out of him and no call.

You called out "the got Spurs fans" for crying about the refs when you just did it too.

I'm not talking about fans like yourself. Just the es. You know exactly what I'm talking about. All teams have good fans, and bag fans.

If you read my post, you would have seen that I didn't have much problem with the officiating. Fact is, when you are playing at home, you will get the benefit of calls more often. Sure, I thought the calls were more in favor of the Spurs, but I'm fine with that, since they were at home.

[z0sa]

I'm curious.

Why is it when a Spurs fan drops the refs card, its whining but when a Mavs fan does it, its legit?

because if not for refs, they'd have won a championship in 06, and on the same token, we'd have won in 04

sometimes, like the last two games, there's really no complaining to be done about the officiating. It was ty but when is it not? It's just blatantly blown calls that need to be avoided. Oh, and allowing spurs to play within earshot of dirk helped out a little.

[samikeyp]

It wasn't much of a cheap shot by Terry, except to Parker lovers. Parker is the one who initiated the contact with Terry, and Terry just held his ground much better. I don't see how that should be a flagrant, since Tony was the one who tried to draw the foul by initiating the contact and running straight into Terry. He made no attempt to go around him. But since Terry leaned into it a little, I guess I can understand why it was called as such. But when players are trying to draw fouls like Parker did, I think its stupid that if the guy they jump into simply holds their ground better, should get called for a flagrant.

The Dampier thing was because he got knocked over and they got tangled up. There was no intent to bump as you suggest.

What was also bogus was when Gooden jumped for the rebound, landed on Howard, and Howard got called for the foul. That made no sense, as he was the one that jumped over Howard's body.

The Terry thing was a foul because he put his shoulder into Parker which by definition is a flagrant. If he would have had his hands up, there would have been no foul on Terry or even an offensive on Parker.

The Dampier foul was a foul but not a flagrant as some wanted.

Howard got the foul because he undercut Gooden although I think that was more of Howard trying to get out of the way then him trying to undercut.

[rayray2k8]

I'm curious.

Why is it when a Spurs fan drops the refs card, its whining but when a Mavs fan does it, its legit?

It's called being a hypocrite.
Mav fans know all about that.

[ElNono]

It wasn't much of a cheap shot by Terry, except to Parker lovers. Parker is the one who initiated the contact with Terry, and Terry just held his ground much better. I don't see how that should be a flagrant, since Tony was the one who tried to draw the foul by initiating the contact and running straight into Terry. He made no attempt to go around him. But since Terry leaned into it a little, I guess I can understand why it was called as such. But when players are trying to draw fouls like Parker did, I think its stupid that if the guy they jump into simply holds their ground better, should get called for a flagrant.

The Dampier thing was because he got knocked over and they got tangled up. There was no intent to bump as you suggest.

What was also bogus was when Gooden jumped for the rebound, landed on Howard, and Howard got called for the foul. That made no sense, as he was the one that jumped over Howard's body.

There's no need to put an elbow out if you're gonna 'hold your ground' or 'draw a charge'.

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I'm curious.

Why is it when a Spurs fan drops the refs card, its whining but when a Mavs fan does it, its legit?

I think it goes both ways as Spurs fans say the same thing. Actually Spurs fans here are far more guilty for that than Mavs fans. But obviously as I said, you didn't really read my post, as I didn't have any serious issues with the officiating.

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only time ive constantly complained about officiating was in the 06 finals, but there were reporters all over the country who thought that was the worst officiated Finals ever.

thats like calling Kings fan a whiner after what happened to them in game 6

[alchemist]

The real question is will the Spurs retaliate? If they don't I think it'll set the tone for the rest of the series. I don't think they'll back down, yesterday they played some of the most physical defense I've seen them play in a long time.

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There's no need to put an elbow out if you're gonna 'hold your ground' or 'draw a charge'.

, if I know that I'm not going to be able to draw a charge, I'm not going to let some little guy running wild, just slam into me and knock me over. I'm going to hold my ground, take the foul, and make him think twice about trying to barrell into me again. Flagrant fouls are supposed to be "excessive contact". That's what I don't get. He didn't initiate contact with Parker. It was Parker who ran into Terry. I have no problem with it being a personal foul, but that was an iffy "flagrant" foul IMO. For instance, if it were in Dallas, I don't think it would have been called as such, and I think most people could agree with that. And that is where my point, that teams playing at home, generally will get a little more benefit from the officiating.

[Dex]

Are you saying that because of the fact that the home team so far in this series has definitely gotten a "home court advantage" with the officiating as well? I can't even begin to count how many moving picks were set, how many times Parker and others pushed off on offense, and the way Dirk would get the mess hacked out of him and no call.

No worries though, thats the benefit of HCA, always has been, and always will be. I expect the Mavs to get some of those calls the next 2 games, and for the got Spurs fans to cry like the crybaby es they are.

HCA, my ass.

Game 1
Spurs FTA: 12
Mavs FTA: 17

Game 2
Spurs FTA:17
Mavs FTA: 23

How exactly is that home cooking? Especially going up against a soft, jump-shooting team like the Mavs.

And don't give me that crap about Nowitzki being in foul trouble in the first game. He did that to himself with offensive fouls, and admitted to it later, because Bruce was fronting him even out at the three-point line. And once he finally did come back on the floor, the refs swallowed their whistles against him and let him get away with murder.

Funny that you complain about hacking and pushing off, but you never mention Bass's swinging elbows, or Dirk shoving Bowen around like a rag doll? And like usual, Parker and Duncan take a beating in the post and get nothing, yet Dirk gets a foul for being breathed on. But Mav fans still find a way to complain.

Blaming the refs either way is weak. I can't remember the last time I heard any fan praising the officials work.

[samikeyp]

I think it goes both ways as Spurs fans say the same thing. Actually Spurs fans here are far more guilty for that than Mavs fans. But obviously as I said, you didn't really read my post, as I didn't have any serious issues with the officiating.

I did read your post and like you, i am not talking about everyone, just those fans who are being seeping vaginas about the officiating.

As far as "Spurs fans being far more guilty" that is your opinion to which you are en led but I would have to disagree. I think the ref douchbaggery is pretty even. I would even guess that its not even the majority of each fanbase, just a very loud minority.

[JWest596]

Now watch Dampier go out with no intent of committing a dirty foul, but somewhere along the course of the game he will end up giving a good hard playoff foul, nothing to fuss over or dirty at all, and Spur fan will be screaming bloody murder.

And whose fault will that be? because he couldn't keep his mouth shut, advertised he would "punish", alerted the refs after the NBA has gone to extreme to get the"brawl" mindset out of the game and give bulletin board material to an opposing team during a playoff series.

And what was accomplished, Damp has street cred? while the refs put your team under the microscope?

That's just schoolyard stupid and and Cubanesque and you guys wonder why you haven't won an NBA le?

It's beyond stupid.

[hater]

Dex 1 - stretch 0

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The Terry thing was a foul because he put his shoulder into Parker which by definition is a flagrant. If he would have had his hands up, there would have been no foul on Terry or even an offensive on Parker.

Like I said, I can understand, but I think it was an iffy call, and could easily have went as just a personal foul.

The Dampier foul was a foul but not a flagrant as some wanted.

I agree.

Howard got the foul because he undercut Gooden although I think that was more of Howard trying to get out of the way then him trying to undercut.

My thing with that, was Howard already was in his spot. Gooden jumped straight over him. The only reason there was a call, was because he hit the floor hard.

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HCA, my ass.

Game 1
Spurs FTA: 12
Mavs FTA: 17

Game 2
Spurs FTA:17
Mavs FTA: 23

How exactly is that home cooking? Especially going up against a soft, jump-shooting team like the Mavs.

And don't give me that crap about Nowitzki being in foul trouble in the first game. He did that to himself with offensive fouls, and admitted to it later, because Bruce was fronting him even out at the three-point line. And once he finally did come back on the floor, the refs swallowed their whistles against him and let him get away with murder.

Funny that you complain about hacking and pushing off, but you never mention Bass's swinging elbows, or Dirk shoving Bowen around like a rag doll? And like usual, Parker and Duncan take a beating in the post and get nothing, yet Dirk gets a foul for being breathed on. But Mav fans still find a way to complain.

Blaming the refs either way is weak. I can't remember the last time I heard any fan praising the officials work.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

thats like calling Kings fan a whiner after what happened to them in game 6

Agree - same as calling Spurs fans whiners after what happened in games 3 and 4 of the 2006 Mavs-Spurs series.

[DPG21920]

HCA, my ass.

Game 1
Spurs FTA: 12
Mavs FTA: 17

Game 2
Spurs FTA:17
Mavs FTA: 23

How exactly is that home cooking? Especially going up against a soft, jump-shooting team like the Mavs.

And don't give me that crap about Nowitzki being in foul trouble in the first game. He did that to himself with offensive fouls, and admitted to it later, because Bruce was fronting him even out at the three-point line. And once he finally did come back on the floor, the refs swallowed their whistles against him and let him get away with murder.

Funny that you complain about hacking and pushing off, but you never mention Bass's swinging elbows, or Dirk shoving Bowen around like a rag doll? And like usual, Parker and Duncan take a beating in the post and get nothing, yet Dirk gets a foul for being breathed on. But Mav fans still find a way to complain.

Blaming the refs either way is weak. I can't remember the last time I heard any fan praising the officials work.

The FT disparity is not that bad, but when you watch the games and see how much the Spurs are at the rim it is a little surprising. Game 1, the only problem I had with the officials was that they were letting Damp mug Duncan. Damp is a huge, strong guy and if you let him do certain things, it makes it really hard to score.

Game 2, there were some bad calls here and there, but for the most part it was evenly called.

[fleggy2k2]

league refs: "Thanks for the heads up, Damp."

lets have sex cause i'm filipino too.

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HCA, my ass.

Game 1
Spurs FTA: 12
Mavs FTA: 17

Game 2
Spurs FTA:17
Mavs FTA: 23

How exactly is that home cooking? Especially going up against a soft, jump-shooting team like the Mavs.

And don't give me that crap about Nowitzki being in foul trouble in the first game. He did that to himself with offensive fouls, and admitted to it later, because Bruce was fronting him even out at the three-point line. And once he finally did come back on the floor, the refs swallowed their whistles against him and let him get away with murder.

Funny that you complain about hacking and pushing off, but you never mention Bass's swinging elbows, or Dirk shoving Bowen around like a rag doll? And like usual, Parker and Duncan take a beating in the post and get nothing, yet Dirk gets a foul for being breathed on. But Mav fans still find a way to complain.

Blaming the refs either way is weak. I can't remember the last time I heard any fan praising the officials work.

1. Free throw attempts do not tell the entire story of officiating. Only one aspect. Missed calls have a lot to do with it. Judging by the rest of your post, it figured that a narrow minded moron like yourself would be unable to see that.

2. You obviously missed my entire point. There was complaining about poor officiating by one of your own Spurs fans, and I was pointing out that both teams do stuff, get away with stuff, etc, etc... in the end, it will typically all balance out.

3. I never blamed the refs one bit. But you are obviously too ing stupid to read my posts and interpret that.

[BUMP]

Agree - same as calling Spurs fans whiners after what happened in games 3 and 4 of the 2006 Mavs-Spurs series.

i went to one of the games (i think game 3) the one where Dirk stepped on Duncan's ankle and Timmy got called for the foul. SpurFan has every right to gripe about that one but the "Duncan was getting hacked all series" BS im not gonna buy cause he got plenty of chances at the line but didnt shoot a good percentage