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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    ...keeping score at home.

    Obama has put us in some deep financially and is now trying to nationalize and socialize the banks;

    He has a joke for a vice-president;

    a Homeland Security Director that doesn't know it's illegal to cross our border without proper authority;

    An Energy Secretary that called himself silly today;

    A Financial Czar that can't stay awake during meetings;

    A Secretary of State that thinks she's the president and is resetting -- or overcharging -- our relationships around the globe; and, for his part;

    A president that has embarked on a global "America sucks and we're sorry tour," of every tin horn dictatorship in the world.

    We're in the best of hands...

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    It is great that they are moving fast my friend.

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    Better than the last guy.

    He was awful.

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    the first thread you didn't steal.

    bravo yoni.

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    Obama has restored our image across the Globe.
    Has taken the correct steps in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
    Has ended the secrecy of the Bush administration.
    Is more respected as POTUS than Bush ever was.
    Has a true VP and not a President as VP.
    Makes the decisions on his own and doesn't defer to the VP.
    And has been able to get the republican party in total meltdown mode since day 1.
    Has guys like yoni crying themselves to sleep everynight.

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    Better than the last guy.

    He was awful.
    For all his faults, he would never sell us out to petty dictators.

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    Obama has restored our image across the Globe.
    Has taken the correct steps in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
    Has ended the secrecy of the Bush administration.
    Is more respected as POTUS than Bush ever was.
    Has a true VP and not a President as VP.
    Makes the decisions on his own and doesn't defer to the VP.
    And has been able to get the republican party in total meltdown mode since day 1.
    Has guys like yoni crying themselves to sleep everynight.
    Keep up the Kool-Aid. It really helps those brain cells.

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    For all his faults, he would never sell us out to petty dictators.
    there was nothing left to sell, you idiot

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    Keep up the Kool-Aid. It really helps those brain cells.
    I see you've still got your head up Bush's ass.


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    ...keeping score at home.

    Obama has put us in some deep financially and is now trying to nationalize and socialize the banks;
    Whose Treasury Secretary talked him into instructing (perhaps 'blackmailing' is too strong a term) Congress to give the Executive Branch a $700 billion blank check, to, at best, buy distressed assets from large financial services firms, including the firm of which the secretary was formerly Chairman and CEO?

    Why is it that what happened prior to Jan. 20, 2009 is somehow expunged from the public record?

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    For all his faults, he would never sell us out to petty dictators.
    He would start an unnecessary war and kill hundreds of thousands of people and then torture people hundreds of times in an attempt to justify it after the fact.

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    He would start an unnecessary war and kill hundreds of thousands of people and then torture people hundreds of times in an attempt to justify it after the fact.
    Aren't you tired of arguing that one? There is no clear winner on either side, and we will not changed each others mind.

    Let it die.

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    Also, how does that somehow escape the definition of "socialism"? It certainly doesn't seem consistent with classical liberalism.

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    Aren't you tired of arguing that one? There is no clear winner on either side, and we will not changed each others mind.

    Let it die.
    It was unnecessary and over a hundred thousand died.

    I know I won't change your mind; I'm just content that I'm right.

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    Also, how does that somehow escape the definition of "socialism"? It certainly doesn't seem consistent with classical liberalism.
    I'm a more of a classic liberal than those on the left. Today's liberals are Socialists, Communists, Marxist, etc. All of them want to advance authoritarianism.

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    I'm a more of a classic liberal than those on the left. Today's liberals are Socialists, Communists, Marxist, etc. All of them want to advance authoritarianism.
    How was Bush's blank check that much different?

    Authoritarianism is a product of both sides at this point. Let's stop pretending otherwise. TARP wasn't 'socialist' when Bush rammed it through, but now it is since a Demo is in the White House? Same for that Medicare drugs handout.

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    Why is it that state intervention is akin to rainbows and puppies when you agree with it? How is it that somehow all of the qualities that make you su ious of the state in one area of life magically disappear when it's in another area?

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    Better than the last guy.
    Far too early to make that statement. By the same token it's far too early to blast Obama daily. I wish my fellow conservatives would stop with the daily whining. If you're really keeping score at home then you should see that the score is we ed up and the Democrats have kicked our ass. Now they get to do some of the crap they want to do. I think their policies will be their undoing but I'll give them some time to prove me wrong before I start talking .

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    "Obama has put us in some deep financially"

    no, the financial sector, dominated by Repug CEOs,

    McLiar and pitbull would have continued Hank Goldman Paulsen's robbery exactly as Tim Goldman Geithner has.

    I predicted that the Repugs would blame their entire mess, any and every mess, exclusively on the Dems, just like they blamed the entirely on 9/11 on Clinton.

    Yoni chimes in like a broken record going round and round.

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    Obama is ing with the neo-cons....and it makes me laugh.

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    Yoni chimes in like a broken record going round and round.
    As does boutons.

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    ...keeping score at home.

    Obama has put us in some deep financially and is now trying to nationalize and socialize the banks;

    He has a joke for a vice-president;

    a Homeland Security Director that doesn't know it's illegal to cross our border without proper authority;

    An Energy Secretary that called himself silly today;

    A Financial Czar that can't stay awake during meetings;

    A Secretary of State that thinks she's the president and is resetting -- or overcharging -- our relationships around the globe; and, for his part;

    A president that has embarked on a global "America sucks and we're sorry tour," of every tin horn dictatorship in the world.

    We're in the best of hands...



    Obama is ing with the neo-cons.........and it makes me laugh.

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    Whose Treasury Secretary talked him into instructing (perhaps 'blackmailing' is too strong a term) Congress to give the Executive Branch a $700 billion blank check, to, at best, buy distressed assets from large financial services firms, including the firm of which the secretary was formerly Chairman and CEO?

    Why is it that what happened prior to Jan. 20, 2009 is somehow expunged from the public record?
    It's not. I was opposed to that bailout as well but, in fairness, that was a bipartisan decision and it didn't come with strings that put the government in a position to nationalize the corporations.

    Why won't Obama take payments from the banks? There are more than a few who want to pay back the bailout money.

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    makes me laugh

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    How was Bush's blank check that much different?

    Authoritarianism is a product of both sides at this point. Let's stop pretending otherwise. TARP wasn't 'socialist' when Bush rammed it through, but now it is since a Demo is in the White House? Same for that Medicare drugs handout.
    It's different in that Obama now wants to convert the preferred stock in those companies to common stock and, therefore, give the government control of the boards of those banks.

    That's the difference between what President Bush advocated and what President Obama is trying to do...it's called socialism.

    Again, I ask, why won't the federal government allow the banks to pay back the loans?

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