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    What could possibly go wrong? I think some on this forum could even pose a nice gesture and let them stay with them until they can get on their feet.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...tory?track=rss

    Reporting from Washington -- The Obama administration is preparing to admit into the United States as many as seven Chinese Muslims who have been imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay in the first release of any of the detainees into this country, according to current and former U.S. officials.

    Their release is seen as a crucial step to plans, announced by President Obama during his first week in office, to close the prison and relocate the detainees. Administration officials also believe that settling some of them in American communities will set an example, helping to persuade other nations to accept Guantanamo detainees too.

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    The Uighurs were sent to Guantanamo in 2002 after being captured in Pakistan. Before that, they had gravitated to Afghanistan, where they received firearms training at a camp apparently run by a Uighur separatist.

    Some former U.S. officials have said government information indicates that the Uighurs may pose a danger if released. But other officials and human rights organizations insist they pose no threat to Americans.

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    Within the prison, Uighurs are not considered a grave threat and are allowed greater freedom, such as television privileges, than other detainees.

    But the TV privileges underscored potential difficulties to come, according to one current and one former U.S. official. Not long after being granted access to TV, some of the Uighurs were watching a soccer game. When a woman with bare arms was shown on the screen, one of the group grabbed the television and threw it to the ground, according to the officials.

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    Willett, the detainees' attorney, said that of the five former Uighur prisoners released to Albania, four are still there and one has moved to Sweden.

    "They have been living peacefully for three years," Willett said.

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    So what do you say will happen?

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    But the TV privileges underscored potential difficulties to come, according to one current and one former U.S. official. Not long after being granted access to TV, some of the Uighurs were watching a soccer game. When a woman with bare arms was shown on the screen, one of the group grabbed the television and threw it to the ground, according to the officials.
    just what we need, more ing wackjobs.

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    just what we need, more ing wackjobs.
    Whackjobs with terrorist training...

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    So what do you say will happen if they live in the US?

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    maybe they will go on a killing spree if they see a woman in a bikini

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    Like that one in Sweden did, right?

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    We talked about this a long time ago. The Uighurs's enemy is not the USA, but the communist government of China. As a matter of fact, we've already released a bunch of these guys to other countries, without incident.
    Basically, the issue with these guys is that we can't release them to China because they would basically be killed on the spot. Other countries won't take them because they don't want to strain relationships with China.
    This specific case was one of the very first reviewed by a judge, after the habeas corpus resolution came about, and the judge determined that the US govt had absolutely no evidence whatsoever to imprison these people. He actually requested an expedited release because they've been unjustly imprisoned for many years.

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    Board Republicans want to appease the communist government of China.

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    Well, the commies are bankrolling us at the moment.

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    What is the over/under on how long these guys will will commit terrorist acts again? I'm gonna say 6 months. And if these guys are gonna be freed, why not send them back to China and let that Communist country deal with them?

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    What is the over/under on how long these guys will will commit terrorist acts again? I'm gonna say 6 months. And if these guys are gonna be freed, why not send them back to China and let that Communist country deal with them?
    They'd rather be here. American churches have offered to take them in, why not let them?

    It's already been determined they're not a threat to the US, by our own gov't. Why not let them live here? Their beef is with the Han Chinese.

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    So what do you say will happen if they live in the US?
    So what do you say will happen if they live in the US?

    Would you be willing to let one of them move in next door to find out or as long as they dont live near you its alright?

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    So what do you say will happen if they live in the US?

    Would you be willing to let one of them move in next door to find out or as long as they dont live near you its alright?
    If I had a spare room, I would be perfectly comfortable letting one stay in my house.

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    So what do you say will happen if they live in the US?

    Would you be willing to let one of them move in next door to find out or as long as they dont live near you its alright?
    so they are guilty even if they are innocent?

    So if a person got falsely imprisoned because a woman said he raped her and he didn't, or was falsely accused of being a child molester, and it was proven that they were innocent, you'd still want them out of your neighbourhood.

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    so they are guilty even if they are innocent?

    So if a person got falsely imprisoned because a woman said he raped her and he didn't, or was falsely accused of being a child molester, and it was proven that they were innocent, you'd still want them out of your neighbourhood.
    No one is claiming these guys are innocent.

    They were captured after having attended terrorist training. I don't think even they deny this.

    It's just that this stupid president we've elected wants other countries to take prisoners from Guantanamo Bay so he can try to keep at least one campaign promise -- closing the effective detention facility -- and, so, he's trying to show we're willing to rehabilitate some ourselves.

    It demonstrates his basic misunderstanding of Islamic extremists.

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    So what do you say will happen if they live in the US?

    Would you be willing to let one of them move in next door to find out or as long as they dont live near you its alright?
    I'm fine with one of them living next door.

    No one is claiming these guys are innocent.

    They were captured after having attended terrorist training. I don't think even they deny this.
    Eh, we let hundred if not thousands from Cuba and Nicaragua and El Salvador and Iran that fit that definition.

    It's just that this stupid president we've elected wants other countries to take prisoners from Guantanamo Bay so he can try to keep at least one campaign promise -- closing the effective detention facility -- and, so, he's trying to show we're willing to rehabilitate some ourselves.

    It demonstrates his basic misunderstanding of Islamic extremists.
    These guys were determined by the Bush administration to be no threat to the United States. You have demonstrated a fundamental stupidity regarding the facts here.

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    What is the over/under on how long these guys will will commit terrorist acts again?
    Tell me what terrorist acts they committed in the first place.
    I'm gonna say 6 months. And if these guys are gonna be freed, why not send them back to China and let that Communist country deal with them?
    Why do you hate freedom and love appeasing communist dictatorships?

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    i don't know about you guys, but i love authentic chinese food.

    give them a store front.

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    What is the over/under on how long these guys will will commit terrorist acts again? I'm gonna say 6 months. And if these guys are gonna be freed, why not send them back to China and let that Communist country deal with them?
    I'll take the over on never.

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    No one is claiming these guys are innocent.
    A federal judge did make that claim.

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    No one is claiming these guys are innocent.
    The Bush administration made that claim, actually. They determined that they were mistakenly picked up in a sweep.

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    Report: U.S. Soldiers Did 'Dirty Work' for Chinese Interrogators

    U.S. military personnel at Guantanamo Bay allegedly softened up detainees at the request of Chinese intelligence officials who had come to the island facility to interrogate the men -- or they allowed the Chinese to dole out the treatment themselves, according to claims in a new government report.

    Buried in a Department of Justice report released Tuesday are new allegations about a 2002 arrangement between the United States and China, which allowed Chinese intelligence to visit Guantanamo and interrogate Chinese Uighurs held there.

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    China's Uighurs trapped at Guantanamo

    The Pentagon wants to release more than 12 of some two dozen Uighur detainees imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, but Washington for strategic and political reasons will not return the detainees, captured in Afghanistan, to China, which considers them terrorists and Xinjiang separatists. China would be expected to deal with them harshly. Since other countries, concerned about their own diplomatic relations with China, are unwilling to accept the detainees, the United States faces a serious threat to its diplomatic relationship with China if it grants the detainees asylum in the US.

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    http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle21336.htm

    Wrong Place, Wrong Time

    So how did Uighurs get to Guantánamo?

    Fleeing Chinese oppression, many Uighurs found their way to Afghanistan where they were living in a self-contained camp when the US attacked in October 2001. They were captured in the wake of the fighting, many of them by Pakistani bounty hunters who proceeded to sell them to US forces.

    Twenty-two Uighurs ended up in Guantánamo, joining others with the undeserved Rumsfeldian sobriquet "the worst of the worst." After "interviewing" them extensively by late 2003, US interrogators had concluded that few, if any, were a threat.

    Under international law, the only country required to accept displaced persons is their country of origin. But China had been making a practice of incarcerating Uighurs with little if any proof of any involvement in violent acts. The Uighurs in Guantánamo did not want to trade one prison for another.

    No third country, however, would accept them – except Albania, which welcomed five in 2006

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