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    Goddammit it pisses me off.

    Benching Hill: FAIL.
    Benching Bowen: FAIL.
    Mason at PG: FAIL.

    I'm sure others can add more, such as starting Bonner, but he just faded on his own. Pop made many mistakes this year.

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    Goddammit it pisses me off.

    Benching Hill: FAIL.
    Benching Bowen: FAIL.
    Mason at PG: FAIL.

    I'm sure others can add more, such as starting Bonner, but he just faded on his own. Pop made many mistakes this year.
    Finley starting: Fail

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    The reason why "Hill isn't ready for playoffs" is because Pop not giving him more minutes. How ironic?

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    everyone makes mistakes....im not mad at you pop...respect...4 championships is good enough for me......couple more would be sweet though

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    Pop is the best thing that ever happened to the Spurs on the non-player side of the line.

    But sometimes Pop acts as if athleticism is a character flaw.

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    I will never understand Pop for benching Hill all year long, especially with what he has showed in streches in the past. I tell you, this kid has potencial, lots of it. Somehow (don't ask me) he reminds me of a young Manu. Very athletic and humble. With confidence he has probe a good NBA player, more of a SG than a PG. I think I remember a thread some time ago made by TIMVP talking about how Pop has screwed Spurs backups PG. I hope he realizes how bad he handles them and how good players we've missed bacause of it. I hope it's not too late to get Hill back into the action.

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    Pop gambled (why? i have no idea) that Hill wouldn't be ready for the playoffs. Hill curbstomped Pop's gamble ... with help from the myriad of choking role players around him.

    Pop's a great coach but not playing Hill the last three months is the stupidest coaching decision of his life. Fvckin' pitiful.

    Pop probably sees/knows things we don't...
    because for sure he is not known as "stupid"...

    I have never been a fan of Hill, you (spurstalk) used to overate him at the begining of the year!
    He dribles teh ball too high...
    he takes a tones of time to build a play...
    He is not efficient in either jumpshot or layups...
    he doesn't have ANY strengh to rely on...

    I gess he is young, but...

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    The reason why "Hill isn't ready for playoffs" is because Pop not giving him more minutes. How ironic?
    The vicious cycle. If you don't invest minutes in your young'uns, how are they supposed to develop? Better to sacrifice some regular season victories and have a deeper team. The Mavs gave Barea a real chance, maybe out of desperation, but it's paid dividends.

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    Pop probably sees/knows things we don't...
    because for sure he is not known as "stupid"...
    Actually if you've been paying attention he's been developing a rep over the past couple years similar to his mentor Larry Brown as far as player development (i.e., favoring aged vets over developing youth).

    And come on - he traded Scola to Houston - that qualifies as not just stupid but ing stupid.

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    I called it. I just knew Pop would be forced to dust off Hill and use him - whether he liked it or not.

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    Pop is the best thing that ever happened to the Spurs on the non-player side of the line.

    But sometimes Pop acts as if athleticism is a character flaw.

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    Actually if you've been paying attention he's been developing a rep over the past couple years similar to his mentor Larry Brown as far as player development (i.e., favoring aged vets over developing youth).

    And come on - he traded Scola to Houston - that qualifies as not just stupid but ing stupid.

    If the purs won so many les, the common point is : VETERANS !!
    There has to be a reason for that...
    It's "easy" to be good when nobody expect "big" from you (ie: G. Hill begining of the season)...

    + If we missedScola, it was more a money issue than anything...

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    And come on - he traded Scola to Houston - that qualifies as not just stupid but ing stupid.
    Pop made later statements that seemed to imply he did not want to trade Scola, that it was done by others. That said, if it was me I would have been screaming out of my mind at the idiots who thought that was a good idea. Threaten to walk or something. I actually got booted from the other spurs forum for railing against that one.

    I would still rank Pop's decision not to play Hill more in the regular season and now as a more glaring error, however. Hopefully next year Mason will be strictly a 2 guard and Vaughn will be gone in favor of Williams as the 3rd stringer. Having waited for years for Scola to finally come over and then to see him traded to the Rockets, followed by Splitter not coming over, Mahinmi being perpetually injured, and Ginobili in and out repeatedly, this has be a lousy couple of years. The only bright spot in Hill was taken out by Pop.

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    Manu's ing Olympic injury has ed the Spurs, more than just because of his absence or inability to play at 100%. The Spurs have had to plan as if he was going to be available and at 100%.

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    I don't get your Olympic injury comment...that was the other ankle. What is your point?

    Obviously the Spurs had little to no chance without Manu to win it this year...but I take it you are saying something else.

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    Pop made later statements that seemed to imply he did not want to trade Scola, that it was done by others. That said, if it was me I would have been screaming out of my mind at the idiots who thought that was a good idea. Threaten to walk or something. I actually got booted from the other spurs forum for railing against that one.

    I would still rank Pop's decision not to play Hill more in the regular season and now as a more glaring error, however. Hopefully next year Mason will be strictly a 2 guard and Vaughn will be gone in favor of Williams as the 3rd stringer. Having waited for years for Scola to finally come over and then to see him traded to the Rockets, followed by Splitter not coming over, Mahinmi being perpetually injured, and Ginobili in and out repeatedly, this has be a lousy couple of years. The only bright spot in Hill was taken out by Pop.
    Pop's statements that you're referencing were just 'cover your ass' statements from him. He didn't want Scola either, he's still in charge. It was just another example of buck-passing when it comes to questionable moves (e.g. "I wanted Nocioni but some low-level scout messed up his birthday")

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    Manu's ing Olympic injury has ed the Spurs, more than just because of his absence or inability to play at 100%. The Spurs have had to plan as if he was going to be available and at 100%.
    Trading Scola, Mahinmi's injury, Splitter's not coming over, and not playing Hill more hurt as well. Manu really should retire from international play, though, or at least only play every four years in the Olympics. He won Argentina a freaking gold medal, (along with the bronze), he's done enough.

    I can understand Manu wanting to represent his country, but be honest; it's putting a lot more wear and tear on you, and even if it is 'the other ankle,' you even mentioned earlier in the season that your previous injury was making you nervously compensate with your other ankle, which contributed to it getting injured. Move past denial already.

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    I don't get your Olympic injury comment...that was the other ankle. What is your point?

    Obviously the Spurs had little to no chance without Manu to win it this year...but I take it you are saying something else.
    Both might just have been related.

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    what exactly was Pop's admission?

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    what exactly was Pop's admission?
    He said something to the effect that it kills him to see Scola on the Rockets, and implied he was opposed to the trade. As objective stated, they may have been cya statements. That would conflict with my image of Pop, but who knows, my image of him may be incorrect. After all, I've always thought he was a brilliant coach, and this year's mess with Mason and Hill has shaken that a bit.

    The Scola debacle (we waited years for him to come over, and when he finally can we traded him for nothing), along with the '2008' plan we kept putting everything off for, which morphed into the '2010' plan we're twiddling our thumbs for now makes me a little angry with the organization. We're squandering what time we have left with Duncan, Parker and Ginobili (Manu's squandering some of that time himself, to be fair).

    P.S. You were referring to the thread le; I think Timvp meant Pop actually gave Hill some minutes, and Hill did very well in what little time he had. The fact that Pop put him in after holding him out previously for fear he'd screw up things as a nervous rookie was an admission that he might have been wrong. Hill's performance was proof of it. George outplayed everyone but Tim and Tony today. Granted, it wasn't too difficult given how all the other role players did, but Hill was doing a good job in the few minutes that he had.
    Last edited by Thompson; 04-25-2009 at 09:39 PM.

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    ^That benching Bowen in lieu of offense ed everything up.

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    Pop gambled (why? i have no idea) that Hill wouldn't be ready for the playoffs. Hill curbstomped Pop's gamble ... with help from the myriad of choking role players around him.

    Pop's a great coach but not playing Hill the last three months is the stupidest coaching decision of his life. Fvckin' pitiful.
    That isn't anything new. Coach's have to shorten their rotations for the playoffs, every team does it, unfortunately it had to be Hill. I'm sure pop had his reasons too.

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    He said something to the effect that it kills him to see Scola on the Rockets, and implied he was opposed to the trade. As objective stated, they may have been cya statements.
    he had already said that quite a while back didn't he...?

    edit: never mind... all these threads have me going bonkers. Maybe this thread is about what he admitted a while back.

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    George Hill had a chance to be our X factor this season, and Pop in killed it.
    Hill did he his part with his unability to score on the drive, but yeah, no excuses for Pop on this one.

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    that scola trade was disgusting, disrepecting spursfans...we waited for this fool to come over only to be traded for a bag of peanuts which tasted like .

    shouldve just kept that clown butler and absorb his contract instead of paying out for bonner to do jack on teh floor.... .

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