10 R(S)easons to question the R.C. Buford

[Yuixafun]

Wow we could have had Monta Ellis instead of Ian.

[jdev82]

everyone who agrees with me repost this:

SPURS TO THE DEATH

[K-State Spur]

Sorry folkz, didn't mean to cause a ruckus...the post isn't saying that the FO doesn't find talent. There is no arguement there. The problem is them not utilizing or molding it.
I still say it loud and proud peeps! GO SPURS GO.
I just can't help but wonder what a difference it'd be right now if our starting team was this:

PG: G. Hill
SG: R. Mason [with Manu hurt and all]
SF: T. Ariza
PF: T. Duncan
C: D. Lee or Carl Landry

Unless Duncan were 100% and Pop was willing to play him 40+ minutes/night, that line-up would have been battling Utah & Phx for the 8 seed.

[K-State Spur]

Well the fact of the matter is that they DID get Gasol. San Antonio hasn't done anything as far as acquiring top level talent in the last 7 years.

When you have 3 stars, you don't try to keep acquiring top level talent. There's only one ball + a salary cap (the last time I checked).

They have done a good job of surrounding those 3 guys with players who fill a role both on the court and in the clubhouse...some years better than others obviously.

[Duncan2177]

The lakers reloaded quickly. I don't care if its through trades or free agency a good front office will use all the necessary tools to get the players and trades and free agency are great ways to reload a team. The spurs have a bad track record getting players through trades and free agency.

[BadOne]

Spurs to the death

[BadOne]

Unless Duncan were 100% and Pop was willing to play him 40+ minutes/night, that line-up would have been battling Utah & Phx for the 8 seed.

I did make a correction to the G. Hill error. I did intend to have T. Parker as the starting PG. While you're en led to your opinion, and I respect it...I'm really just curious here...do you actually believe that T. Ariza would've been a worse option than Udoka once Bowen hit the bench? Or that Landry a worse center than Bonner?

Thanks for the reply man.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Why is it everyone continues to want to blame R.C. for everything?

You all act like Pop and Holt have nothing to do with the front office failures over the past several years...

[iilluzioN]

2001
28. Tony Parker – SUPERSTAR
56. Robertas Javtokas – Never signed. Still overseas…
58. Bryan Bracey - Waived

fixed...



and the answer to all your questions.... is we should build around Tony now.... instead of Timmy

[024]

this will all be solved when gist returns.

[ploto]

RC always gets more credit for things than he deserves but likewise also more blame for some things, as well. Holt pulls more strings than people realize when it comes to mandating trades to save money.

[BadOne]

I agree that Pop has alot of say about these things, but with Buford being the G.M. the responsibility is his for roster moves. I do however also agree that Peter Holt deserves a share of blame as well. When you have an owner that doesn't want to even risk coming close to the salary cap if it cuold help his team win, that does hurt. I suppose though, that the "small market" in an uncertain economy could affect Mr. Holt's decisions.

[Mel_13]

I agree that Pop has alot of say about these things, but with Buford being the G.M. the responsibility is his for roster moves. I do however also agree that Peter Holt deserves a share of blame as well. When you have an owner that doesn't want to even risk coming close to the salary cap if it cuold help his team win, that does hurt. I suppose though, that the "small market" in an uncertain economy could affect Mr. Holt's decisions.

This statement is not true. The Spurs have exceeded the salary cap by at least $10M for the last 4 seasons. They have tried to avoid the punitive luxury tax, as nearly every team in the NBA has. In the last 4 seasons, the Spurs exceeded the luxury tax in 05-06 and 06-07, and spent nearly every dollar up to the lux tax line in 07-08 and 08-09.

Number of luxury taxpaying teams:
05-06: 6 out of 30(Spurs paid)
06-07: 5 out of 30(Spurs paid)
07-08: 8 out of 30(Spurs narrowly averted)
08-09: 8/9 out of 30(Spurs narrowly averted)

Thru the first three years of the lux tax, 17 teams have never paid the tax even once, the Spurs have paid it twice.

You can make all the arguments you like about how the Spurs have decided to allocate their resources, but statements like yours above are completely unsupported by the facts.

[ploto]

I agree that Pop has alot of say about these things, but with Buford being the G.M. the responsibility is his for roster moves.

IIRC: Pop was GM when Tony and Manu were drafted.

[BadOne]

IIRC: Pop was GM when Tony and Manu were drafted.

There are no complaints about Tony and Manu. Kudos to Pop on those 2. We still reap those benefits.