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Yer, the whole defense was led towards LeBron with the big man on Ben Wallace zoning off.
If phil's rotations are this stupid in the later rounds then it'll be a cause for concern. I think he just likes teasing the fans & giving them a good game since they pay a load of money to go to the games haha.
Yer, the whole defense was led towards LeBron with the big man on Ben Wallace zoning off.
Up 93-73 with 8:18 to go and 4 1/2 minutes later, you're only up 95-89 (which happens not to mention, in a 7 minute span (8:33 to 1:31), you score 3 points in the 4th quarter of a close out playoff game at home..
Definitely a cause for concern for the Lakers
The Lakers would be crazy not to shade off Ben Wallace. But when Big Z and Verajao are in, the Lakers stick with them both.
Watching Phil's strategy, it looks like he's willing to let LeBron try to get his points on single coverage with Ariza as long as he can't get the other guys involved.
Phil also changes the looks up for LeBron by giving Kobe and Lamar some time on him as well. Great strategy because it keeps LeBron as a scorer and that slows down the other guys.
Slow down LeBron with single coverage, stick to your man and it's rough on the Cavs.
In the game @ Staples, Lakers kept LeBron out of the paint (and the Cavs) by playing a little man on man but still either Gasol, Odom or Bynum was playing off Varejao, Hickson and Big Ben. Anytime LeBron got close to the hoop he was swarmed. It was a good scheme, but I'd put money on LBJ adjusting and coming out on top in a 7 game series.
The earlier point about West missing is that he gives the Cavs another ball handler, both Mo and West can play on/off ball, so the offense flows smoothly.
When the Cavs have played Joe Johnson or Wade, Delonte would try single coverage but there would always be a lot of trapping and emphasis placed on keeping the ball out of Wade's hands. Delonte did a great job on RIP who is a great off-ball mover.
The Cavs simply don't match up well with LAL. Even Cav fans have to admit that by now.
If you couldn't beat the Lakers on the tail end of a B2B, playing their 6th road game in a row, AT HOME, with the Lakers MISSING BYNUM, and Kobe having a flu so bad he had to leave the game immediately to take an IV..........then maybe it's time for you to admit your team just doesn't matchup all that well with the Lakers.
the cavs were missing their starting SG, back-up SF, back-up big man....we don't know how the cavs really match-up with the Lakers. fact is the cavs have Lebron who will have a big series if the two teams meet...Lakers lack of focus and lack of defense will be their downfall. Cavs play good consistant defense for 48 minutes.
I really think that both teams have bad matchups that ultimately balance each other out. At that point, it comes down to defense, rebounding, and intangibles, thus I would take the Cavs in all three of those categories all day long.
I admitted it in February, Gregory. In a thread I started. You can go back and find it if you'd like.
EDIT- Here, I found it for you. Enjoy:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116407
Last edited by JoeTait75; 04-28-2009 at 10:07 AM.
House one question, why do you think lakers will win when you have to factor in the Lakers consistantly give up leads and play terrible defense. Great defense wins les which is what the Cavs have.
I think the Lakers will win because.....
THEY ALREADY HAVE TWICE IN CONVINCING FASHION.
lol regular season
In the regular season...you need to come up with something better than that when the Cavs team you will face in the finals is a lot different when you consider West, Z and wallace will be healthly.
dude...you cant even come up with a reason that the Cavs will beat the Lakers. All you have is speculation. Whats the point with even trying to convince everyone that the Cavs will win. You keep saying Defense...yet the Lakers whooped the Cavs ass twice. Then you say, thats regular season...so wtf are you basing the assumptions on. Your basing it on how the Cavs play other teams??
You guys can laugh at "regular season", but im positive thats exactly what MAVS FANS said a few years ago before the first round started against the Warriors.
Just because we give up leads, it doesnt mean we'll lose the game.
Mo Williams will face rape any guards the Lakers throw at him. Lebron will face rape anyone who defends him, as he always does. Ben Wallace's physical play and Anderson's flopping will give Pau Gasoft fits. Z's shooting ability will pull Bynum from the middle, and the good ball rotation and movement of the Cavs will make Bynum look stupid on defense. The whole team's defense will make it tough for anyone on the Lakers to get an easy shot, despite that high powered offense. The Cavs have a very good transition defense.
Or to put it simply... Lakers will have a harder time stopping the Cavs, than the Cavs will have stopping the Lakers, which is why the Cavs will win in 6.
So we're basing the cavs win on Varejao's flops and Ben Wallace's physical play. Yes, Z can shoot...but you may have forgotten what Phil said when the Lakers beat them at the Q.... "Z is hitting his outside shot, but lets see if he can do that later in the game when he is tired". Im all good with Centers going out to shoot the long ball.
and MO WILLIAMS face raping our guards. LOL
BTW...hows Lebrons play against the Lakers so far this year?
Has Ben Wallace got more than 10 minutes in this last series?
No different than what Laker fans like yourself are saying the Lakers will do to the Cavs. All based on conjecture (and the meaningless regular season).
Fact is, they both have to make it there first. This topic is old and tired, and is making Laker fans look even more re ed and hated even more than usual, because yall are so damn obsessed with the Cavaliers. Sure, this thread was started by a Spur fan, but 95% of the Lebron vs Kobe, Cavs vs Lakers arguments, are started by Laker fans here. The only one that consistently shows any decency is Iron_Mexican. Just wait till the ing finals and shut the up already.
I think the Lakers will have a 30 point lead in game seven of the finals with 6 minuets left and then they'll blow the entire lead and the LBJ's will win the le, then Kobe will retire and never be heard from again.
I don't begrudge Lake Show fans being confident in their team. Not in the slightest. What surprises me a little bit is the widespread notion that a team with
- 66 wins
- Homecourt advantage
- The best player in the world
- Great defense
is just going to lay down and die at the sight of the Forum Blue & Gold.
HAHA This is about the LAKERS and the CAVS and you're telling us to SHUT THE UP? This isnt even about your sorry ass MAVS. SO why dont you ing leave the thread. Why are you even obsessed about the Lakers?
Meaningless regular season my ass...in case you forgot, both teams were playing for the #1 seed....and im POSITIVE the Cavs didnt want to lose thier first game to the Lakers.
By the way, I dont care if im not loved like Iron_Mexican. Just like none of the Lakers fans (prob except for Iron) likes ur ass anyways.
on the contrary Mr. Tait...I think LeBron will be amped up to play the Purple and Gold. I respect the outta the Cavs, I just feel that LA presents too many mismatches for LeBron to overcome.
Likewise..its gonna be a good series
-65 wins
-Best Road record
-Best Player in the World
-Great Offense
Go look up the Lakers record vs the top teams in the league. They dont take teams like Utah seriously. They went up by 20+ in 4 out of the 5 games with ease. When they need to clamp down they'll clamp down. Theres no reason to use too much energy in 1st rounds. I admit that blowing leads is pretty annoying but I wont till they actually go up by 20+ & actually lose the game. If theres 0 seconds left & the Lakers have a W thats all that matters to me.
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