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    As a friendly reminder:

    A-theist = Without belief

    A=gnostic = Without knowledge

    You can be both. I am an agnostic atheist. You can be a gnostic atheist, a gnostic theist, or an agnostic theist as well.

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    The Christian god hasn't made its presence known to anyone.
    Then how do you account for the Christian martyrs both from centuries past and present day?

    How do you account for the churches that so many people faithfully attend, not for personal recognition, reward, or fear of punishment but from a pure affection for God and His people?

    How do you account for me?

    How are you going to account for the Rapture when it occurs?

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    200 years ago it was not accepted to be an atheist because you couldn’t explain creation and other things, but now it's ok to be an atheist.
    lol, of course, now after we can explain a whole lot of and understand the concepts of uncertainties, it makes a lot of sense to be agnostic

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    You know very well that this statement can't be proven either way.
    see what i mean?

    you should talk angel down from the ledge.

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    Then why are the Spurs down 3-1?
    Maybe I prayed for an early vacation from my Spurs job.

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    Church attendance has been taking a dip for years.

    Do some research.
    I have to do research because you're throwing your opinions out there as facts? Why don't you show me your numbers and then we can agree or disagree on what they mean, not the opposite.

    Now, saying you're Christian and actually attending church are two very distinct matters. I work with several people that call themselves Catholics but only one of them actually goes to church.
    I'm still wondering where I went wrong by commenting on Lennon's thus far untrue prediction. Over 3/4 of the USA alone is still considering themselves Christian 40 years after his remark - and, judging from the exponential population growth since that remark, one undoubtedly concludes his prediction as wrong at this point considering Beatles and Lennon records are still selling well today.

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    see what i mean?

    you should talk angel down from the ledge.
    No one can talk me out of what I believe.

    If they could, then I never really believed it to begin with.

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    Not true.

    I gave a Biblical (also historical since that event took place) illustration of the very legitimate question I posed to you.


    If all the other gods you mentioned are so wonderful and great, wouldn't they make their presence known and felt on behalf of their people?
    Please don't use anything from the bible as a legitimate rationalization.

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    It has been my experience that when your perspective is eternal, your priorities change.

    Man's critical thinking is God given and therefore has its use.

    However, critical thinking ought not to be the ultimate factor in decision making.
    God's Word should always come first.
    Maybe Angel_Luv, but there is virtue in living in the now as well. For instance, I do not believe there will be a hereafter. Therefore, I try to cherish life as much as I can, and enjoy it while I'm here. I try to do good works to set an example for others. Etc etc.

    Just because YOU think God's word should come first Angel does not mean I have to. And, if you look at the Bible, there are many instances of critical thinking there as well. Look at Solomon. Look at Jesus. Look at Moses. Many heroes of the Bible engage in critical thinking.

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    I didn't call every person that is posting in here stupid. Just people like you.

    I don't understand why people can't debate without trying to put down the other person. I just like calling people idiots which is why I am in here. I am not arguing for either side.
    If your not arguing for either side and if you have nothing to say in the matter, then stop posting.

    It really is that simple.

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    If your not arguing for either side and if you have nothing to say in the matter, then stop posting.

    It really is that simple.
    Yeah. Only intelligent Google searching people can post here.

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    If your not arguing for either side and if you have nothing to say in the matter, then stop posting.

    It really is that simple.
    Nah, I like calling you stupid.

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    No one can talk me out of what I believe.

    If they could, then I never really believed it to begin with.
    So you never really believed in Santa?

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    The fact that many biblical prophecies are coming true...

    Worldwide currency? Even 100 years ago people would believed that to be a far-fetched concept... all of these economic problems will eventually push us there... the concept is no longer as far-fetched...

    For that matter, the formation of The European Union... a step in that direction... was prophesized in the Bible as a 'reconstruction' of the Roman empire (part of it anyways)...
    Please, like it takes any super power to predict worldwide currency...what else is included in these biblical prophecies? Weapon technology will increase with time?

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    Yeah. Only intelligent Google searching people can post here.



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    "Lol" redirects here. For other uses, see Lol (disambiguation).
    "Lmfao" redirects here. For the band of the same name, see LMFAO (band).
    LOL (also written with some or all letters lowercase) is an abbreviation for laughing out loud[1][2] or laugh out loud.[3] LOL is a common element of Internet slang used historically on Usenet, but now widespread in other forms of computer-mediated communication, and even face-to-face communication. It is one of many initialisms for expressing bodily reactions, in particular laughter, as text, including initialisms such as ROTFL ("roll(ing) on the floor laughing"),[4][5][6][7] a more emphatic expression of laughter, and BWL ("bursting with laughter"), above which there is "no greater compliment" according to technology columnist Larry Magid.[8] Other unrelated expansions include the now mostly historical "lots of luck" or "lots of love" used in letter-writing.[9]

    The list of acronyms "grows by the month",[4] and they are collected along with emoticons and smileys into folk dictionaries that are circulated informally amongst users of Usenet, IRC, and other forms of (textual) computer-mediated communication.[10] These initialisms are controversial, and several authors recommend against their use, either in general or in specific contexts such as business communications.

    Contents [hide]
    1 Analysis
    2 Spread from written to spoken communication
    3 Variations on the theme
    3.1 Corruptions of "LOL"
    3.2 Translations in widespread use
    3.3 Other languages
    4 See also
    5 References
    6 Further reading



    Analysis
    Laccetti (professor of humanities at Stevens Ins ute of Technology) and Molsk, in their essay en led The Lost Art of Writing,[11][12] are critical of the acronyms, predicting reduced chances of employment for students who use such acronyms, stating that, "Unfortunately for these students, their bosses will not be 'lol' when they read a report that lacks proper punctuation and grammar, has numerous misspellings, various made-up words, and silly acronyms." Fondiller and Nerone[13] in their style manual assert that "professional or business communication should never be careless or poorly constructed" whether one is writing an electronic mail message or an article for publication, and warn against the use of smileys and these abbreviations, stating that they are "no more than e-mail slang and have no place in business communication".

    Yunker and Barry[14] in a study of online courses and how they can be improved through podcasting have found that these acronyms, and emoticons as well, are "often misunderstood" by students and are "difficult to decipher" unless their meanings are explained in advance. They single out the example of "ROFL" as not obviously being the abbreviation of "rolling on the floor laughing" (emphasis added). Haig[1] singles out LOL as one of the three most popular initialisms in Internet slang, alongside BFN ("bye for now") and IMHO ("in my humble opinion"). He describes these acronyms, and the various initialisms of Internet slang in general, as convenient, but warns that "as ever more obscure acronyms emerge they can also be rather confusing". Bidgoli[15] likewise states that these initialisms "save keystrokes for the sender but [...] might make comprehension of the message more difficult for the receiver" and that "[s]lang may hold different meanings and lead to misunderstandings especially in international settings"; he advises that they be used "only when you are sure that the other person knows the meaning".

    Shortis[7] observes that ROTFL is a means of "annotating text with stage directions". Hueng,[4] in discussing these acronyms in the context of performative utterances, points out the difference between telling someone that one is laughing out loud and actually laughing out loud: "The latter response is a straightforward action. The former is a self-reflexive representation of an action: I not only do something but also show you that I am doing it. Or indeed, I may not actually laugh out loud but may use the locution 'LOL' to communicate my appreciation of your attempt at humor."

    David Crystal[16] notes that use of LOL is not necessarily genuine, just as the use of smiley faces or grins is not necessarily genuine, posing the rhetorical question "How many people are actually 'laughing out loud' when they send LOL?". Franzini[2] concurs, stating that there is as yet no research that has determined the percentage of people who are actually laughing out loud when they write "LOL".

    Victoria Clarke, in her analysis of telnet talkers,[17] states that capitalization is important when people write "LOL", and that "a user who types LOL may well be laughing louder than one who types lol", and opines that "these standard expressions of laughter are losing force through overuse". Egan[3] describes LOL, ROTFL, and other initialisms as helpful as long as they are not overused. He recommends against their use in business correspondence because the recipient may not be aware of their meanings, and because in general neither they nor emoticons are (in his view) appropriate in such correspondence. June Hines Moore[18] shares that view. So, too, does Lindsell-Roberts,[19] who gives the same advice of not using them in business correspondence, "or you won't be LOL".


    Spread from written to spoken communication
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    LOL, ROFL, and other initialisms have crossed from computer-mediated communication to face-to-face communication. Teenagers now sometimes use them in spoken communication as well as in written, with ROFL (pronounced /ˈroʊfəl/ or /ˈrɒfəl/) and LOL (pronounced /ˈloʊl/, /ˈlɒl/, or /ˌɛloʊˈɛl/), for example. David Crystal—likening the introduction of LOL, ROFL, and others into spoken language in magnitude to the revolution of Johannes Gutenberg's invention of movable type in the 15th century—states that this is "a brand new variety of language evolving", invented by young people within five years, that "extend[s] the range of the language, the expressiveness [and] the richness of the language". Commentators disagree, saying that these new words, being abbreviations for existing, long-used, phrases, don't "enrich" anything; they just shorten it.[20][21]

    Geoffrey K. Pullum points out that even if interjections such as LOL and ROTFL were to become very common in spoken English, their "total effect on language" would be "utterly trivial".[22]

    Conversely, a 2003 study of college students by Naomi Baron found that the use of these initialisms in computer-mediated communication (CMC), specifically in instant messaging, was actually lower than she had expected. The students "used few abbreviations, acronyms, and emoticons". The spelling was "reasonably good" and contractions were "not ubiquitous". Out of 2,185 transmissions, there were 90 initialisms in total, only 31 CMC-style abbreviations, and 49 emoticons.[21] Out of the 90 initialisms, 76 were occurrences of LOL.[23]

    I rest my case!

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    Ok, I'll give you that point. However, I do not think it was that the Pharaoah disbelieved in God, but that he thought his God was greater, the "True" God, if you would. (I could be wrong, fuzzy on that part.)

    You know, come to think of it, what is the point of the "End Times"? Why would God need us all to end our lives and come with him? If it's to experience a better life, then why all the people before the End Times who were born and died normally? It just doesn't make sense to me.
    Thank you.

    All I am saying about Pharoah regards to the question I posed to Pee Wee.

    If Pharoah's god was so great and benevolent, ie. worthy of devotion, would he not have defended Pharoah against Moses' God?

    As I said before, I cannot fully explain God's ways to you. He is much more patient with mankind than I could ever be.
    All I know to do is to take God's Word for it because He has proven himself true and praiseworthy in my life.

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    Please, like it takes any super power to predict worldwide currency...what else is included in these biblical prophecies? Weapon technology will increase with time?

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    I still disagree but hey it's cool



    Where do you think the name Nimrod originated? Why do you think it stands for silly or foolish? Just sayin'
    I don't give a damn where it originated.

    If you don't understand the context in which it was used, it only goes to show the limitations of your mind.

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    WTF are you talking about half assing it I've read, I understand it's more accepted now as we have more laws and protections in our government than 2000 years ago, different cultures, etc.

    But I think calling it widely accepted, in this country, is kind of misleading, as if people view atheists equally coming from religious backgrounds.
    you read it, then you say "in this country" which i never said. I never said it was widlely accepted, i said it was "more widely accepted."

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    Please don't use anything from the bible as a legitimate rationalization.
    You want me to use my own mind yet here you are telling me how to think and express myself?

    Ironic.

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    So you never really believed in Santa?
    lol, great example of a flaw in the defense

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    I don't give a damn where it originated.

    If you don't understand the context in which it was used, it only goes to show the limitations of your mind.
    If you don't completely understand the meaning behinds words that you use, it only goes to show the limitations of your mind.

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    So I understand the plight of the atheist. I wish there was a way to convey what I know to be real to you all without it being taken in an offensive way, because there is a lot of peace to be had from that knowledge.
    I don't buy the idea that belief leads to less stress. All the bible does is tell you how imperfect and flawed you are, which has to really play mind games with people who are dying. I'd imagine the stress is pretty awful for a believer wondering whether he'll make god's cut, and how he can atone for the "sins" he committed in his time on earth. To answer your likely objection to my first sentence, I don't see how you have Christianity without the bible, since it's the only source on Jesus.

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    You know very well that this statement can't be proven either way.
    Yes it can.

    There has never been a do ented case of the christian god making himself known to earthlings.

    And, don't give me that trinity crap about Jesus being god because that's the biggest cop out in the history of cop outs.

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    Maybe Angel_Luv, but there is virtue in living in the now as well. For instance, I do not believe there will be a hereafter. Therefore, I try to cherish life as much as I can, and enjoy it while I'm here. I try to do good works to set an example for others. Etc etc.

    Just because YOU think God's word should come first Angel does not mean I have to. And, if you look at the Bible, there are many instances of critical thinking there as well. Look at Solomon. Look at Jesus. Look at Moses. Many heroes of the Bible engage in critical thinking.
    Solomon and Moses served God. Jesus is the Son of God and served God His Father.
    On the merits of your own examples, thinking should draw you to faith in Jesus and closer to God, not away from Him.

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