Solomon and Moses served God. Jesus is the Son of God and served God His Father.
On the merits of your own examples, thinking should draw you to faith in Jesus and closer to God, not away from Him.
Nor would I want to... see post #142.
Your approach may be different... But I share most of your beliefs
(with the possible exception of believing that Obama was ever a candidate for embodying the anti-Christ role... even though his policies will likely 'set the table')
you don't really know what you're talking about, do you?
there's probably tens of millions of do ented cases of the Spirit revealing itself to people. In the final age before Endtimes, the Bible explicitly predicts a "lukewarm" church, where many of the followers don't actually believe and only go to church or claim God for human gain or acceptance.
No. My parents told me that my gifts came from them.So you never really believed in Santa?
I was aware of the story of Santa and watched all the santa themed Christmas movies, but the primary focus of Christmas for my family has always been Jesus.
some people are extremely convinced that they are reincarnated, but that's slightly besides the point.
is the God of the Jews the same as the God of the Christian?
Given your view on such things Angel, and the Pharaoah's, yes it certainly seems that the Jew's God was greater than the Pharaoah's.
I have not had God's Word enter my life at all, so I can not speak for that. I assume that if God WANTED me to hear his Word, he would find a way to show himself to me, or convince me of his goodness, so that I might use my free will to follow him. However, that has not yet occurred.
They got killed for what they believed in. God had nothing to do with that.
And, he sure as did make his presence known to those dudes.
What the does that have to do with god making his presence known?
You're delusional. For crap's sake, you thought Barack Obama was the Anti-Christ!
It's not going to. I don't subscribe to beliefs based on the comic book known as the bible.
If humanity ends, it will be at the hands of humanity and nothing else.
Yes I know.
Thanks.
Then I pray it will.
I have really enjoyed talking with you. Thanks for taking the time.
Ok, I should've seen that one coming.
You know what I mean though. You can believe in something at the time, and then change your beliefs later. That does not mean at the time you didn't really believe it though. All children tend to believe SOMETHING that gets changed later... even if it's just the explanation for a magic trick.
What about a meteor? It could end because of that. Or even a gamma ray burst. Those up.
I'll wait for you to search Google for the answer.
its a choice, you obviously know about the Bible and what it could possibly do for you should you follow its teaching, the fact you haven't picked it up has nothing to do with God and everything to do with you.
The people where that "reasoning" may exist were the Native Americans who never had a chance to learn about Jesus or God because they lived on the opposite side of the globe.
I take it you were there to prove no such events ever transpired.... every single instance?
Billions of events go undo ented each day... I guess if no one do ents them then they 'never really' took place...
That's such a strawman... it's pretty silly you would be attempting to use that argument as a logical fort.
Just because I don't believe, and I share a different worldview from you, doesn't mean I can't get along.Then I pray it will.
I have really enjoyed talking with you. Thanks for taking the time.
I DO wish sometime you would try to think from a NONbeliever's perspective on things, or at least try to do so. I think it would also help you grow as a person, and in your faith, to question how and why you believe.
Are you a troll? I'm guessing you are.
Tell me, you know of Allah correct? Why haven't you started praising his name?
You can not "choose" to believe. You either do believe, or you don't. You can CHOOSE to take actions that will increase or decrease the chances of you believing, but you can not choose to believe or not. There's no 'fake it til you make it' option.
i thought al gore told us how we were going to die.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...3/ai_18720688/
Church attendance across denominational lines has suffered a five-year decline and has sunk to its lowest level in two decades, according to research by the Barna Research Group of Glendale, California. "From the early '80s to the early '90s, there has been a definite change," said Bruce Hose, who was director of Sunday school programs for the 1-million-member Alabama Baptist Convention from 1985 to 1995. "Not only has attendance gone down but it is a graying culture, a graying congregation."
Hose said the Assemblies of God, the Southern Baptist Convention and some other denominations have continued to make membership gains, but much of the growth has taken place in newly emerging megachurches. In telephone surveys of 1,004 U.S. adults 18 and over, Barna Research Group said 37 percent of Americans now report going to church on a given Sunday. Attendance peaked in 1991 at 49 percent and dropped to 47 percent in 1992, 45 percent in 1993 and 42 percent in 1994 and 1995, according to the Barna poll numbers. "Increasingly, we are seeing Christian churches lose entire segments of the population: men, singles, empty nesters ... and people who were raised in mainline Protestant churches," wrote pollster George Barna.
"If his poll data is right, it's even worse than what we think we have found," said Samford University researcher Penny Long Marler, who has taken part in studies showing that actual church attendance is only about half of that indicated by telephone polls. "It may be where we're heading."
Many churches have been lulled into a false sense of security for years by Gallup poll figures that appeared to show church attendance remaining constant, Hose pointed out. Gallup polls have remained steady for three decades in reporting that about 43 percent of people say in telephone surveys that they attended church the previous week, Marler said. But with the increasing population, a steady 43 percent church attendance should have resulted in a massive influx of people for the nation's churches. "That's clearly not been the case," Marler said. "Clearly something has been fishy about the polling."
Mainline Protestant churches have lost millions of members over the past three decades, and growth at evangelical Protestant churches has not been nearly large enough to offset those losses, Marler said. Many baby boomers who returned to church while rearing their children have stopped attending since their children have grown up and left home, noted Barna Research Group spokesman Dave Kinnaman. "That's certainly a factor," he said.
According to Kinnaman, the peak in church attendance in 1991 probably had much to do with the Persian Gulf war, the breakdown of the Soviet Union and economic recession. "Those types of issues formed a climate conducive to church attendance," he said. Also influencing increased church attendance was the Willow Creek Community Church model, a trend in "seeker-sensitive" church services based on the corporate-style approach of that suburban Chicago congregation. That model may have lost some of its novelty appeal, Kinnaman ventured.
But Marler, whose studies have pointed out the difference in actual behavior and what people tell pollsters, warned that such fluctuations in polling numbers can be a consequence of sampling error. She said it's very clear, however, that America's church attendance habit has faded. "All denominations, including conservative Protestants, have grown slower. There has been a very large decline in ins utional religion."
Marler has teamed with other researchers to study the nation's 78 million "marginal" Protestants who claim a traditional religious iden y but are not active in churches. "There are really very few people who do not identify with anything," she said. "They're still saying `I'm a Baptist'--but they don't belong to a local church and they don't go."
Young people are confused about morals and not familiar with religious tradition, and the global youth culture has become pluralistic and relativistic, Marler said. "I don't think anybody's doing much to help them sort it out. It's not just a phase they're going through. There's less of a reason to say they'll come back when they never went in the first place. The reserves of religious tradition are dwindling."
The U.S. may be following many other secular nations in becoming a society without rigorous systems of religious education in which churches, temples and mosques serve as moral training grounds. "It's a valuable tool for moral and ethical training," Marler said. Warning that a relativistic youth culture, without a core ethical tradition, could make for a troublesome society, she added: "I'm not sure what kind of person it would form. We've never tried it."
It's arrogant and foolish to assume that a believer is incapable of critical thinking.
you too have chosen the mark of the beast.
someone said that.
Great job by Jesus defending all those poor bas s in the WTC against the hijackers and their god. Where was Jesus when Allah came rolling into town?
I can post more if you like.
you too have chosen the mark of the beast.
someone said that.
Your so intelligent. You can google.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence argument is horrible, and was destroyed by Bertrand Russell's teapot argument.I take it you were there to prove no such events ever transpired.... every single instance?
Billions of events go undo ented each day... I guess if no one do ents them then they 'never really' took place...
That's such a strawman... it's pretty silly you would be attempting to use that argument as a logical fort.
Ok, I should've seen that one coming.
You know what I mean though. You can believe in something at the time, and then change your beliefs later. That does not mean at the time you didn't really believe it though. All children tend to believe SOMETHING that gets changed later... even if it's just the explanation for a magic trick.I actually misinterpreted your question when I read it.
I thought you were asking if I ever at any point believed in Santa, which I truly did not.
I wasn't being a smart alec intentionally.
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