The 2009 NBA Draft.

[Ocotillo]

There is too much talk linking the Spurs to Casspi. He'll never be a Spur.

[biziofromdowntown]

Jonas Jerebko from Angelico Biella....actually team of Gist.

Book it.

[TheSpursFNRule]

We need Wayne Ellington!

[Spurs_9_20_21]

We need Wayne Ellington!

Thank you for finally understanding, but he is projected to be a 1-20 pick.

[Tidarius]

I think De Colo will never be able to really play in the NBA.
He already struggle when players goes physical against him.
In the NBA it would be worse... and his poor defense would be exposed

French view of De colo
De Colo could be a steal in this draft !!! Tell me how many point guards franchise player of his age you know. Specially in france where young players doesn't play often, and not with much responsabilities. I remember Parker in France who struggled to get playing time in his first year.
People talk about a so so year but that's because he begun the year as the target N° 1 for defense. He proved that he can handle defensive pressure.This guy was a sleeper before a new coach decided that he will be the guy 2 years ago : he finished mvp of the french league (before Batum), mvp of the semaine des as (mid season tournament with 8 best regular season teams) and mvp off the all star game. There could be doubt of the level of the french league but he led Cholet to final of final for of the eurochallenge and score 24 pts and decided to take the last shot because... "he was the only one who can do it" ! In his first international game he score 28pts. We'll see in the workouts for the lack of strength and D. But I think he has the psyche to play at this level even to take it over. Plus he is a shooter !!
Peace

[mathbzh]

Sorry if I sound to harsh about Nando. I really like his talent and I think he should become a very good Euroleague player. I also hope he will become a major piece of the French NT.

I just don't believe he has the tools to succeed in the NBA and should stay in Europe.

I wish I am wrong, but he would not be the first talented European player not to succeed in the NBA.

I remember Parker in France who struggled to get playing time in his first year.

Nando is 21. At 21 Parker was the starting PG for the NBA champion.
This is not to minimize what Nando is doing, but Parker is in class of his own when it comes to french talent/precocity/accomplishments...

And about french talent not playing I have to disagree. This season, MBaye, Beaubois, Heurtel, Vaty, Moerman, Pellin, Curti... played some solid minutes.

[dbestpro]

Austin Daye or Victor Claver. Daye probably will go first round but you never know who might fall.

[TheProfessor]

Austin Daye or Victor Claver. Daye probably will go first round but you never know who might fall.

Too many quality players have pulled out for someone like Daye to fall all the way to 37. Claver's likelier than Daye just because of the injury, I would be surprised to see him fall that far though.

[TDMVPDPOY]

has the rookie salary scale been posted yet? i wonder if it went down from previous year cause of the current economic climate...

[Mel_13]

has the rookie salary scale been posted yet? i wonder if it went down from previous year cause of the current economic climate...

Rookie scales were set through the 2011-12 season by the 2005 CBA.

Numbers here:

http://www.nbpa.org/cba_exhibits/exhibitB.php

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I can better tell about the Euro prospects, than about the college kids.
I have seen some games from Sergio Llull this season and I'm totally sold on him. DX has him in the 30s (in the area of the Warriors pick), nbadraft in the 50s (which is ridiculous IMO).
if he goes on to deliver those performances, he might move into the 1st round. if we can get him with the Warriors pick, I call this a huge steal.

next on my list is Vladimir Dasic, if he in fact joins the draft this year. (born 1988). DX has him listed 2009, so maybe there are informations that he joins the 2009 draft. (nbadraft has him as a late 1st rounder 2010).
I have atched some Eurocup re runs, where he displayed some very nice moments, but the major impression was an Adriatic league game I watched, when he was absolutely terrific.
he is a Radmanovic type player, not as good as a shooter, but other than Radman he plays good defense with great intensity. the kid is also an impressive athlete for a 20 years old white Euro guy and has good size for a combo forward.

third on my list would be Milenko Tepic. he isn't impressive in any aspect, but a super versatile smart Jaric-type big guard. this season he really started to play with more consistency (his major problem the last seasons).

No to Tepic. He will sign a huge contract with PAO. Plus he is extremely overrated. Dasic? Why? Lull is worth consideration for sure. But he is a 6-3 SG. I say no to him also.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

The only European players in this draft that seems worth anything to me are Casspi, Claver, Macvan, Pappas, Rubio, Lull, Teodosic, and maybe Preldzic.

Preldzic has only show some flashes though. Lull is a 6-3 SG so fatal flaw for him. Macvan is young and is already too fat. Casspi is hustle and energy guy. Claver is a poor man version of Fotsis.

So

Teodosic
Pappas
Rubio

Those 3 I think are the ones that should be targeted. Rubio is not available to Spurs position. So I go with Pappas or Teodosic. Lull or Claver would be good picks also but one is 6-3 SG and the other is much too soft so they have flaws.

De Colo, Tepic, Jerebko, Datome, Norel, Beabouis, etc. and all these others who cares? Stupid draftexpress.com and NBAdraft.net morons.

[TheProfessor]

The only European players in this draft that seems worth anything to me are Casspi, Claver, Macvan, Pappas, Rubio, Lull, Teodosic, and maybe Preldzic.

Preldzic has only show some flashes though. Lull is a 6-3 SG so fatal flaw for him. Macvan is young and is already too fat. Casspi is hustle and energy guy. Claver is a poor man version of Fotsis.

So

Teodosic
Pappas
Rubio

Those 3 I think are the ones that should be targeted. Rubio is not available to Spurs position. So I go with Pappas or Teodosic. Lull or Claver would be good picks also but one is 6-3 SG and the other is much too soft so they have flaws.

De Colo, Tepic, Jerebko, Datome, Norel, Beabouis, etc. and all these others who cares? Stupid draftexpress.com and NBAdraft.net morons.

OK, I'm going to try the olive branch here - what do Pappas and Teodosic offer? I'm unfamiliar with them.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

OK, I'm going to try the olive branch here - what do Pappas and Teodosic offer? I'm unfamiliar with them.

Nikos Pappas is a very very clever and crafty player. He will be a SG but a SG with point guard skills in full ability. He has a very very big body also for a guard. He is one of the very best European players I think ever at his age. The only player in Europe in his generation that should be consider a bigger prize is Rubio. But also Pappas is a way way better shooter than Rubio.

Milos Teodosic is a prize for whatever team is smart enough to draft him. He will also be a SG I think. Only problem with him is defense. But he is complete skills in offense. He is as smart as any player can get. Running offense, passing, creating, setting up plays, lob passes, everything he can do it. Run the offense with him as a decision maker and you have something for sure. His shooting range has no limit from as I can see. I mean 30 footers are like layups for him. I mean these idiot sites like draftexpress and nbadraft do not even have him list in the mocks and yet there is Calathes?

Teodosic I think can be thought of as a similar player to Calathes except I think he is surely FAR better outside shooter, much more range and he's smarter than Calathes.

[Wolves fan]

True, I like Casspi with the spurs, so does this site http://2009NBADraft.com
They also have us taking Luke Harnengody with our last pick, do you think he could contribute.

Spurs Draft team page
http://2009nbadraft.com/nba-team-pag...team-page.html

[bdictjames]

Get Luke Harangody.. the guy has skills.

[TFloss32]

I've been reading the forums on this site for about a year now. Is it just me, or did KBP's English improve tremendously on the past three or four posts? Regardless, nice info on the Euro prospects. Hopefully the Spurs can take advantage of a "poor" 2009 draft class and find a serviceable player for the future.

[TimDunkem]

Nikos Pappas is a very very clever and crafty player. He will be a SG but a SG with point guard skills in full ability. He has a very very big body also for a guard. He is one of the very best European players I think ever at his age. The only player in Europe in his generation that should be consider a bigger prize is Rubio. But also Pappas is a way way better shooter than Rubio.

Milos Teodosic is a prize for whatever team is smart enough to draft him. He will also be a SG I think. Only problem with him is defense. But he is complete skills in offense. He is as smart as any player can get. Running offense, passing, creating, setting up plays, lob passes, everything he can do it. Run the offense with him as a decision maker and you have something for sure. His shooting range has no limit from as I can see. I mean 30 footers are like layups for him. I mean these idiot sites like draftexpress and nbadraft do not even have him list in the mocks and yet there is Calathes?

Teodosic I think can be thought of as a similar player to Calathes except I think he is surely FAR better outside shooter, much more range and he's smarter than Calathes.

I'll take your word for it, but the Spurs are in desperate need of a SF who can get to the rim, defend, and shoot. Who do you think could fill this role for the Spurs?

[TheProfessor]

Nikos Pappas is a very very clever and crafty player. He will be a SG but a SG with point guard skills in full ability. He has a very very big body also for a guard. He is one of the very best European players I think ever at his age. The only player in Europe in his generation that should be consider a bigger prize is Rubio. But also Pappas is a way way better shooter than Rubio.

Milos Teodosic is a prize for whatever team is smart enough to draft him. He will also be a SG I think. Only problem with him is defense. But he is complete skills in offense. He is as smart as any player can get. Running offense, passing, creating, setting up plays, lob passes, everything he can do it. Run the offense with him as a decision maker and you have something for sure. His shooting range has no limit from as I can see. I mean 30 footers are like layups for him. I mean these idiot sites like draftexpress and nbadraft do not even have him list in the mocks and yet there is Calathes?

Teodosic I think can be thought of as a similar player to Calathes except I think he is surely FAR better outside shooter, much more range and he's smarter than Calathes.

It is not only DX and nbadraft that prop up Calathes - Ford reported scouts really liked what they saw out of him at a recent workout. Do you know if Teodosic and Pappas will be at the Reebok Eurocamp in Treviso?

And yes, your English is definitely improving But hey, keep bringing solid takes without calling us names and I'll stop complaining.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I'll take your word for it, but the Spurs are in desperate need of a SF who can get to the rim, defend, and shoot. Who do you think could fill this role for the Spurs?

Maybe they should get NCAA player or maybe Ingles the Australian player if this is what they want.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

It is not only DX and nbadraft that prop up Calathes - Ford reported scouts really liked what they saw out of him at a recent workout. Do you know if Teodosic and Pappas will be at the Reebok Eurocamp in Treviso?

And yes, your English is definitely improving But hey, keep bringing solid takes without calling us names and I'll stop complaining.

I assure you that Teodosic is better than Calathes. Pappas was at Nike Hoops summit and I think he will be at Reebok Euro camp. Teodosic I do not know but I say he will not be there. Because he has to play Greek finals and also he has to get ready for European championships with Serbian national team.

Just think though Pargo could not get PT over Teodosic and even was finally released because he could not beat him for backup point guard behind Papaloukas. And Teodosic is the point guard at just 22 in one of the best national teams in the world. Calathes has some very good qualities but surely if Teodosic was NCAA player then Americans would be drooling over him.