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    Bonner is the second reason why I will never buy a ticket to a spurs game.

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    Bring him off the bench in a Malik Rose Steve Kerr like role, and acquire better defensive shot blocking bigs to put in front of him.

    Let him playoff of them.

    Sound player for the money.

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    he was so bad in the playoffs that people have come away with the impression that he was playing monster minutes and some huge, unexpected part of the main core of the team. It's like the last episode of the Sopranos where people were convinced of something that never happened.

    He only played 20 minutes a game in the playoffs. 19:53 to be exact in the 5 games. Sure he started, but 20 minutes a game . . . those are role player minutes.

    And how did he do?

    Awful.

    3 pts, 3.2 rebounds, 21.7% FG, 23.1 3pt%, 0 assists.

    Exactly how much better is he supposed to do if instead of 20 minutes a game he was only getting 15?

    People don't need to make excuses for him, and the cut-him-a-break argument that he was never meant to be a starter or play 30 minutes doesn't work for me. Here he was, playing a role, wasn't even playing half the game, and he was a complete trainwreck disaster.

    He won't be any better in playoff basketball playing only 10 minutes or only 15, or 17, off the bench or starting or whatever. He is who we thought he was, he's Matt Bonner.

    I don't think he needs to be cut. But he's trade fodder for anything that comes along. Regardless, things should be fine after he's out of here in summer 2010.

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    Look, I like him and he improved significantly this year, but those playoff games will stick in the mind. Good to have on the bench as an option during the long haul, but I don't think we can rely on him as being a real piece of the puzzle.

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    Bonner needs to go. If he remains a starter on the Spurs squad they will not be championship contendors.

    He contributes jack , and the thing that he's good at during the regular season (3 point shooting) goes out the window during the playoffs because he is too gunshy and mentally weak.

    He doesn't have the body, brains, or hair color for NBA basketball much less does he deserve to share the same team-jersey as Tim Duncan. BONNER GTFO.

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    he was so bad in the playoffs that people have come away with the impression that he was playing monster minutes and some huge, unexpected part of the main core of the team. It's like the last episode of the Sopranos where people were convinced of something that never happened.

    He only played 20 minutes a game in the playoffs. 19:53 to be exact in the 5 games. Sure he started, but 20 minutes a game . . . those are role player minutes.

    And how did he do?

    Awful.

    3 pts, 3.2 rebounds, 21.7% FG, 23.1 3pt%, 0 assists.

    Exactly how much better is he supposed to do if instead of 20 minutes a game he was only getting 15?

    People don't need to make excuses for him, and the cut-him-a-break argument that he was never meant to be a starter or play 30 minutes doesn't work for me. Here he was, playing a role, wasn't even playing half the game, and he was a complete trainwreck disaster.

    He won't be any better in playoff basketball playing only 10 minutes or only 15, or 17, off the bench or starting or whatever. He is who we thought he was, he's Matt Bonner.

    I don't think he needs to be cut. But he's trade fodder for anything that comes along. Regardless, things should be fine after he's out of here in summer 2010.
    There's a pretty huge difference between starting and not starting for Bonner. If he starts, he's almost guaranteed to spend most of his time going against starter talent. He's also much easier to gameplan for as a starter.

    And the main thing is that off the bench, Pop hypothetically could use him when matchups dictate rather than automatically at the beginning of each game.

    I wanted Bonner out of the starting lineup heading into the playoffs because he was obviously going to choke. As a starter, he had choker written all over him. But off the bench as a big you go to when you need defensive mobility and spacing, he's much less likely to be exposed as a choker in that situation. He'd get more touches playing with the second unit, while going against inferior bigs who won't be as keyed into getting out on his shot.

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    Didn't Matt Bonner suck fat ones when coming off the bench? The dude has no confidence.

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    Didn't Matt Bonner suck fat ones when coming off the bench? The dude has no confidence.
    I don't think Bonner would be effective coming off the bench either. He's a 3-point specialist at best. A 6-10 Craig Hodges with no defense.

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    LMAO at people saying

    "he brings offensive spark"

    "him and tim are a good offensive unit"

    "he spreads the floor/3 point specialist"

    did you guys watch the last couple months? HE IS 100% WORTHLESS, PERIOD.

    he brings ZERO 'offensive spark', no spark in any way, zero defense, zero rebounding, even his shooting disappeared when we need it the most.

    so basically you have a guy who 40% of the time shoots 3's well if hes wide open, but nothing else, and 60% of the time is a completely worthless liability in every facet of the game.

    GET RID OF HIM AT ANY COST.

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    LMAO at people saying

    "he brings offensive spark"

    "him and tim are a good offensive unit"

    "he spreads the floor/3 point specialist"

    did you guys watch the last couple months? HE IS 100% WORTHLESS, PERIOD.

    he brings ZERO 'offensive spark', no spark in any way, zero defense, zero rebounding, even his shooting disappeared when we need it the most.

    so basically you have a guy who 40% of the time shoots 3's well if hes wide open, but nothing else, and 60% of the time is a completely worthless liability in every facet of the game.

    GET RID OF HIM AT ANY COST.
    totally agree!!!! the only thing he's good for is three pointers and he barely shoots!!

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    Sound player for the money.
    how so? how is he a 'sound player'? what exactly does he contribute to us winning?

    he brought us 3ppg, 2-3rebpg, 0 blocks, zero assists, zero defense, and choked hard at the one thing hes supposed to do-shoot 3's-when we needed it the most. all he brings is a warm body and 6 fouls.

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    There's a pretty huge difference between starting and not starting for Bonner. If he starts, he's almost guaranteed to spend most of his time going against starter talent. He's also much easier to gameplan for as a starter.

    And the main thing is that off the bench, Pop hypothetically could use him when matchups dictate rather than automatically at the beginning of each game.

    I wanted Bonner out of the starting lineup heading into the playoffs because he was obviously going to choke. As a starter, he had choker written all over him. But off the bench as a big you go to when you need defensive mobility and spacing, he's much less likely to be exposed as a choker in that situation. He'd get more touches playing with the second unit, while going against inferior bigs who won't be as keyed into getting out on his shot.
    He wasn't even good in 2nd quarters against bench players.

    I understand the argument about second units and less pressure on him, I just don't think they excuse his poor play.

    He only scored modestly in game 2, the game where Dallas mailed it in because they swiped homecourt. Even in that game he only started knocking down shots after Tony Parker got them a double digit lead almost all by himself.

    I'm not saying cut him, just don't play him any more than 2007 and don't re-sign him.

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    i would trade him just to free up a roster spot or some cap relief. i remember some time back in january, i wanted the spurs to trade him while his value was still high even if the spurs just got an expiring contract in return. now bonner's awful showing in the playoffs lowered his trade value.

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    His 3 point percentage gives him some trade value. His confidence seems to dip if he's not getting minutes...he's not one of those guys that can heat it up at a moment's notice.

    I'd say move him.

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    which team would want bonner though?

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    which team would want bonner though?
    Um....That's a tough one. I'm afraid we're stuck with Bonner for one more year.

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    trade him if possible. He was given a big opportunity and flopped. He just doesn't have the skills to warrant getting quality minutes and that includes as a reserve.

    The spurs better start filling their bench with players that can do more on offense than just stand around the 3 point arc.

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    I know he can shoot the 3 ball during the regular season, but I never want to see this guy in a Spurs uniform ever again. I'm sure he'll be around next season though.

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    i would trade him just to free up a roster spot or some cap relief. i remember some time back in january, i wanted the spurs to trade him while his value was still high even if the spurs just got an expiring contract in return. now bonner's awful showing in the playoffs lowered his trade value.

    Yes some of us said move him when he had a good stretch of games and had a little more trade value.
    The others who wanted to keep him then should shut the up about moving him now.

    Lets pull up the Bonner posts from earlier in the year and see who was on the Bonner bandwagon then.

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    Throw him out there in every trade scenario. If nothing works live with him for a year. But if that turkey is starting again next year I'm switching to watching curling.

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    The Red Rocket was more like the Red Sparkler in this years playoffs.


    Sad, but true.

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    Dude has been awful in the playoffs 2 years in a row. Personally, I was fed up with him after last year's playoffs. I've seen enough of him to know that he's just a bench player. He's just not enough skilled enough to play starters minutes. I trust Pop knows this now too. I don't blame Bonner as much as I do Pop. I understand Pop didn't really have much choices here, regarding bigs. However, I can't give Pop an out on this. After all, he is the President of the club. He should've ensured he had a better option at starting center on this roster, than Matt Bonner.

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    Dude has been awful in the playoffs 2 years in a row. Personally, I was fed up with him after last year's playoffs..
    Wait, what?

    Bonner only played in two playoff games for a total of nine minutes last year. Both in blowout wins and played well.

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    Wait, what?

    Bonner only played in two playoff games for a total of nine minutes last year. Both in blowout wins and played well.
    Primarily, I'm referring to his penchant for missing wide-open shots. I remember he got time against the Fakers last spring in the WCF. Remember, Pop didn't play Horry as much as in years past. At any rate, the Fakers simply packed the lane and dared him to shoot.

    As far as this year, he didn't do much again in the limited minutes he got. Much like Finley, if he isn't hitting open shots, he's virtually useless on the floor.

    is it any wonder why Pop was forced to utilize a smaller lineup against the Mavs?

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    I can see Bonner coming back with a lesser role than that of a starting Center.

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