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I was commenting about this part:
It sounded to me like you're trying to say this Lakers team didn't win a championship yet because they slack, even though they're the better team.
I do agree with your contention that they lost to a better team.
You kidding me? Odom OWNS Shawn Marion. And James Jones sucked as much ass as Luke Walton. Kwame had some good and bad moments in that series. But when Kobe trusted him (early in the series) he was able to contribute. Later in the series, when Kobe was being a selfish prick, the whole team changed. That series was all about Kobe. When he was being a good teammate, they jumped out. After he hit those two buzzer beaters in game 4, he turned back into the selfish jerk he was.
I was commenting about this part:
It sounded to me like you're trying to say this Lakers team didn't win a championship yet because they slack, even though they're the better team.
I do agree with your contention that they lost to a better team.
Not at all, I don't make excuses about the Lakers/Celtics series. The Celtics were the better team.
I don't cry about refs either.
Honestly, I don't think any team willingly goes down 1-3 in any series. Toying or not toying. You could say giving up a game, but put yourself in a position to face elimination?
Sorry, I don't think so. And the Lakers could have absolutely won that series. Those Suns never played a lick of defense.
And? They were one game away from advancing be it game 5, 6 or 7. And it's certainly understandable they would lose game 5 on the road to a desperate team.
How do you say they 'woke up' when they were seconds away form being eliminated? It took an offensive rebound they should've had gotten and a 3 pointer by Tim Thomas to win game 6. And let's not even talk about game 7 and Kobe.
Not as big of an upset, but an upset nonetheless. I still don't get what that has to do with blowing a 3-1 lead and blowing game 6 in the final seconds.
The Suns were clearly the MUCH better team.
And 2006 Shawn Marion was better than 2006 Lamar Odom. , if the Laker fans had it their way, they would have skinned and flogged Lamar Odom in 2006.
Only this year, 2009 has LO gotten any love and nobody says Shawn Marion is better than Odom anymore.
The Lakers were stomped in Game 1 by the Suns. The Suns relaxed and went on to lose 3 straight.
After Game 4, the Suns won 3 straight.
Even good teams win by the skin of their teeth, just like this year's Lakers team.How do you say they 'woke up' when they were seconds away form being eliminated? It took an offensive rebound they should've had gotten and a 3 pointer by Tim Thomas to win game 6. And let's not even talk about game 7 and Kobe.
Not as big of an upset, but an upset nonetheless. I still don't get what that has to do with blowing a 3-1 lead and blowing game 6 in the final seconds.
The Lakers are a much better team than the Jazz this year, yet they blew huge leads due to complacency, just because they knew they were the better team.
Not much different than the Suns blowing out the Lakers in Game 1, then sit on their laurels.
That Suns team was far superior to the Lakers, and they knew it.
I never thought Marion was better than Odom. And in that series, Odom outplayed Marion.
And yet, the Lakers never lost 3 straight games to the Jazz, as complacent as you say they were. You don't lose three games because you're taking it easy.
And if there's one thing I remember in that series besides the incredible game 4 and Kobe quitting in game 7, it's Odom's dominance of Marion.
Yet the Lakers didn't sweep because they were complacent. The Lakers should have won the series in 4. They had a 13 point lead in the fourth quarter but decided to screw around. The Lakers almost lost the last game as well, I think it was down to 3 points or something.
Complacency kills to varying degrees. But in the end, the Lakers beat the team they were supposed to beat, just like the Suns did.
You and stretch are saying that and I don't honestly remember. But even if Lamar was better, the Suns were clearly better in 3 other starting positions. Not to mention the Suns bench was superior to the Lakers bench.And if there's one thing I remember in that series besides the incredible game 4 and Kobe quitting in game 7, it's Odom's dominance of Marion.
I still think the Lakers choked that series away.
How cool rooting for a team saturated in money living in a shallow plastic big market.
Congrats bags.
Props to the cool Lakers fans.
Probably because you are a bandwagonner that just recently started pulling for the lakers. No suprizes there, as that is what the vast majority of the lakers fanbase consists of.
at your "criteria" Mr. Expert.
Nope, I've been a Laker bandwagoner since 2000, I've seen some of the best and 3 of the worst years.
I just try to forget the losing years as quickly as possible.
That's all that really matters.
So if you're born and raised in LA you shouldn't root for your home town team?
The Lakers are the most popular team in the NBA. By that virtue alone they will have the largest percentage of "bandwagoners". They also have the largest percentage of real hardcore fans. And if you seriously don't think the Lakers have a dedicated fanbase you've never been to LA. We sell out Staples no matter how ty the team is.
My parents had to move to Los Angeles because of a job in 2000.
I didn't have much choice in the matter.
I could have stayed with the Spurs but no way to watch them except on TNT/ABC a couple of times a year.
SO your location determines who you choose to follow, and not you? I see. I wonder how many other decisions the city of Los Angeles makes for you.
I was a 16 year old kid.
1) Watch the Spurs play max 10 times a year
2) Watch the Lakers 82 games a year
I chose the Lakers. It was an easy decision.
So now your age is an excuse. That's fine, as I honestly do not care.
Sorry your highness, I didn't know 16 year olds had so many choices available to them.
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