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    The way I read the Finley contract being his option, I doubt we have any sayso. If he wants to come back we're stuck with him since I can't think of a team who would want him in a trade.

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    The way I read the Finley contract being his option, I doubt we have any sayso. If he wants to come back we're stuck with him since I can't think of a team who would want him in a trade.
    Everybody loves to trade for an expiring contract.

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    Are we or aren't we going to stick with what got the Spurs 4 les?

    There seems to be a bit of schizophrenia going on around here when it comes to who should be on the roster next year.

    Finley? Give him the 2.5 and an extra mil if he agrees to walk.

    Bowen? Keep him as long as he's seeing some consistent minutes. They need not be starters minutes but he needs some minutes consistently so that he can maintain a rhythm. I think we asked far too much of him seeing as we had him shelved for much of the year.

    Gooden? See above

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    +1 unless its for MLE, but it wont, 28, new contract, like hes gonna sign for a pittance ....

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    +1

    Are we or aren't we going to stick with what got the Spurs 4 les?

    There seems to be a bit of schizophrenia going on around here when it comes to who should be on the roster next year.

    Finley? Give him the 2.5 and an extra mil if he agrees to walk.

    Bowen? Keep him as long as he's seeing some consistent minutes. They need not be starters minutes but he needs some minutes consistently so that he can maintain a rhythm. I think we asked far too much of him seeing as we had him shelved for much of the year.

    Gooden? See above

    Great post

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    Spurs would be lucky to sign Gooden for MLE the way he was mismanaged and underutilized in favor of loser Bonner by Pop. Spurs will find NO ONE on the market who can play in the low post and rebound like Gooden can. The dude is 27 years old! Dice would be an upgrade over Thomas, but I think Dice, Thomas and especially Sheed are all over the hill. I would rather have Gooden. He can shoot free throws well also.

    Finley at 2.5 mill ... I think yes. But Pop needs to learn to stop overplaying him.

    Bowen ... of course he's coming back. He will be a valuable trade asset with his expiring contract.

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    It seems I'm the only one that thinks the Spurs should get as far away from Gooden as possible.

    He was a good bandage, but with a full season, I think the Spurs can do better with that money. If there's nothing possibly better, then ok, re-sign but as the last option.

    Very erratic player...one night an all-star, the next night a scrub. And his D still keeps him out of games.

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    If what Pop had to say in his press conference is really true, then that should mean that even he must put aside his Finley man-crush. There's no way they can bring him back.
    What did he say exactly?

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    Spurs would be lucky to sign Gooden for MLE the way he was mismanaged and underutilized in favor of loser Bonner by Pop. Spurs will find NO ONE on the market who can play in the low post and rebound like Gooden can. The dude is 27 years old! Dice would be an upgrade over Thomas, but I think Dice, Thomas and especially Sheed are all over the hill. I would rather have Gooden. He can shoot free throws well also.

    Finley at 2.5 mill ... I think yes. But Pop needs to learn to stop overplaying him.

    Bowen ... of course he's coming back. He will be a valuable trade asset with his expiring contract.
    i'm sorry but you can't fix someone who's unmotivated and lacks the intelligence/focus to make a simple defensive rotation . he showed he couldn't do that on the Spurs and that's what they've always built their team around ... i'd give him the benefit of the doubt , but it's why he's been with so many teams over the course of his career ... so obviously he hasn't changed in that respect .

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    i'm sorry but you can't fix someone who's unmotivated and lacks the intelligence/focus to make a simple defensive rotation . he showed he couldn't do that on the Spurs and that's what they've always built their team around ... i'd give him the benefit of the doubt , but it's why he's been with so many teams over the course of his career ... so obviously he hasn't changed in that respect .
    In that aspect he has changed a lot, not improvement but decrease. I think that's precisely why he got waived earlier in the regular season. with the dream of winning a champion ring, Gooden joined the spurs before the postseason began but his playoff trip with the spurs turned out to be a first round exit. Surely the disappointed Gooden will join any other team but the spurs, probably his next destination will be the le contenders like cavs and mavs.

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    Why in the world wouldn't you want to have Finley back at 2.5 mil? Who in the world are you going to get better for our team for that money?

    I don't usually post on here, but come on guys. Finley may not be the greatest player in the world, but he can still be a great shooter for us and is an excellent locker room guy. He is not our problem.

    Our problem this year lied in MANU. He's my favorite player but him and his salary/injuries were what was wrong with this team not Finley. Finley is a great player to have off our bench.

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    i'm sorry but you can't fix someone who's unmotivated and lacks the intelligence/focus to make a simple defensive rotation . he showed he couldn't do that on the Spurs and that's what they've always built their team around ... i'd give him the benefit of the doubt , but it's why he's been with so many teams over the course of his career ... so obviously he hasn't changed in that respect .
    Just because he's bounced around the league some doesn't mean that he can't have a meaningful role with a team. I see a different player than alot of people here I guess. He doesn't seem unmotivated or lazy to me and he says the right things. Dude can't have much of an impact when he's getting less than 10 minutes. I'll admit that he may be inattentive sometimes but I don't think he's the only one like that. I'm concerned the coaching staff (including Pop) isn't reaching all of the players, but I think that could be fixed by getting a young assistant coach who is a former player, sort of like a Mario Elie. A player's advocate. Just imagine Sean Elliott as a Spurs assistant.

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    In that aspect he has changed a lot, not improvement but decrease. I think that's precisely why he got waived earlier in the regular season. with the dream of winning a champion ring, Gooden joined the spurs before the postseason began but his playoff trip with the spurs turned out to be a first round exit. Surely the disappointed Gooden will join any other team but the spurs, probably his next destination will be the le contenders like cavs and mavs.
    Mavs are not a serious contender and neither were the Spurs this year.

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    Gooden has shortcomings, but those shortcomings can't begin to compare to those of Bonner, whose one strength is hitting open threes when he has the confidence to shoot, but whose shortcomings include interior & perimeter defense, driving the lane, drawing fouls, playing in pressure situations, scoring on the inside, ball-handling, passing...well, in a nuts , everything other than shooting wide open threes.

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    i want gooden back i think if we tried to help get him better on defense he could help us he cant do any worse then bonner

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    Bowen- ONE more year.
    Finley- Goodbye.
    Gooden- Yes, re-sign him. With a full training-camp under the Spurs I think he will be a good piece for us going into next year. Yes his defense needs work, but YOUNG post players with moves like him, a scorer, a rebounder...do not come around very often, especially for the Spurs.

    I think Gooden defense will come to light once he realizes the Spurs schemes. If Gooden was with the team all season, I think we would have done alot better with teams like Den, and LA.
    Bowen, in a wheelchair, will play better d than 80 % of the players in the league!

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    It's a damn shame Finley earned more money playing basketball than David Robinson. He'll also probably end up earning twice as much as Manu
    Thank oh glorious Cuban.

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    Why in the world wouldn't you want to have Finley back at 2.5 mil? Who in the world are you going to get better for our team for that money?

    I don't usually post on here, but come on guys. Finley may not be the greatest player in the world, but he can still be a great shooter for us and is an excellent locker room guy. He is not our problem.

    Our problem this year lied in MANU. He's my favorite player but him and his salary/injuries were what was wrong with this team not Finley. Finley is a great player to have off our bench.
    One of the spurs problems was that Finley ended up guarding opposing teams scorers that Bowen used to guard. That is a huge problem. And don't tell me how much improved his defense is.Watch some game film. Finley at anything other than limited minutes is a huge problem.

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    Best-case scenario is Finley's expiring deal is used to get someone who can contribute from a team needing cap relief. Gooden is not my option #1 with the MLE, but he's worth keeping if Dice and Sheed don't come.

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    One of the spurs problems was that Finley ended up guarding opposing teams scorers that Bowen used to guard. That is a huge problem. And don't tell me how much improved his defense is.Watch some game film. Finley at anything other than limited minutes is a huge problem.
    +1

    Finley is an inconsistent liability on both sides of the ball. His occasional good streaks of shooting are not enough to make for his declining skills ore enough to justify him occupying a roster spot for another season. Besides all that, we all know how Pop incessantly tends to overplay him - no matter who is healthy. I say again, there is no team in the NBA where the Spurs win the matchup at the SF position with Finley in the starting lineup. All of which is why Finley, at 2.5 mil, cannot be welcomed back.
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