Let's stop kidding ourselves - this run is over

[mingus]

Free Agents, very few. But how about trades?

Boozer or Milsap? Any interest and would you give up a Big 3 in a sign and trade?
Tyson Chandler?

I think any of the trade possibilities would involve one of the young up and coming teams that need some veteran leadership.

Jeff Green of OKC Thundah?
Greg Oden or Channing Frye? Portland's got plenty of Bigs.

i hope the fact that the Spurs (according to the media) were willing to take on the some pretty hefty contracts (i'm talking about Vince and Camby) before the trade deadline is sign that they'll be willing to do the same thing this summer ...

i'm not sure how much Boozer or Millsap will be asking for but either one would put the Spurs in great position .

[ElNono]

Free Agents, very few. But how about trades?

Boozer or Milsap? Any interest and would you give up a Big 3 in a sign and trade?

No way. First of all, you saw Boozer up close in your series the last week. He's a lazy ass, his defense is terrible, and you know he's going to stab you in the back as soon as he can get more money somewhere else.
I like Milsap's energy, but he's too small. You were saying we need to guard the Shaq, Yao and Bynums of the West. Big ass guys. Milsap just can't do it, so we're back to Tim. We need somebody that can help Duncan man the paint.

Tyson Chandler?

I like Tyson, but is he healthy enough to play? NO looked like they really wanted to get rid of him and quick before the last trade deadline. If they're really looking to cut salary, we might be able to snag him for expiring contracts.

I think any of the trade possibilities would involve one of the young up and coming teams that need some veteran leadership.

Jeff Green of OKC Thundah?

Size is a problem with Jeff. He's talented, but we need size at the post.

Greg Oden or Channing Frye? Portland's got plenty of Bigs.

I actually think Pribzylla would be a great pickup. He's tough, can rebound and block shots. I just don't think he's worth Ginobili/Parker/Duncan though.

[50 cent]

Ginobili could not be traded, except to another serious contender. This restricts the list to 2-3 teams.

Period.

He already mentioned n times that he just wouldn't play for the clippers or thunders of this world.

Last I checked, only Kobe has a no trade clause.

If we trade Ginobili, it will be to another team that wants his expiring contract so Ginobili doesn't really have a say in the matter.

If he wants to be a little , he can pack up his and head back to Argentina in 2010.

[ElNono]

Last I checked, only Kobe has a no trade clause.

If we trade Ginobili, it will be to another team that wants his expiring contract so Ginobili doesn't really have a say in the matter.

If he wants to be a little , he can pack up his and head back to Argentina in 2010.

He most likely would be riding the Free Agent Express to LA, Cleveland, Boston in 2010...

Some people still don't understand that Manu is on the driver seat here...

[Allanon]

No way. First of all, you saw Boozer up close in your series the last week. He's a lazy ass, his defense is terrible, and you know he's going to stab you in the back as soon as he can get more money somewhere else.
I like Milsap's energy, but he's too small. You were saying we need to guard the Shaq, Yao and Bynums of the West. Big ass guys. Milsap just can't do it, so we're back to Tim. We need somebody that can help Duncan man the paint.



I like Tyson, but is he healthy enough to play? NO looked like they really wanted to get rid of him and quick before the last trade deadline. If they're really looking to cut salary, we might be able to snag him for expiring contracts.



Size is a problem with Jeff. He's talented, but we need size at the post.



I actually think Pribzylla would be a great pickup. He's tough, can rebound and block shots. I just don't think he's worth Ginobili/Parker/Duncan though.

Couldn't have said it better...agreed on all of it.

[Lars]

Should trade Duncan and Manu while they still have value and build around Mason/Parker. Its only a matter of time before they both hit a sharp decline, and then have no value. You could potentially save yourselves a few years of rebuilding time.

[tp2021]

Should trade Duncan and Manu while they still have value and build around Mason/Parker. Its only a matter of time before they both hit a sharp decline, and then have no value. You could potentially save yourselves a few years of rebuilding time.

[Lars]

Laugh all you want, its the truth.

Fake edit: after looking at all your trade proposals in the sub forum, it is apparent you don't really grasp player value at all.

[temujin]

Got news for you, he has a contract with the Spurs, therefore the Spurs are in the driver's seat. They can trade him to anyone they wish. And basketball Gods don't average 15PPG for their careers.

- Spurs have no trade power with Manu. He knows it, they know it. They have acted and will act accordingly. He let already 26 teams in the league know he simply won't play for them.

Moreover, if he gets back in shape next year, and the Spurs FO don't find anyone better that Papa-Finley, LittleArm-Bonner, Coach-Vaughn, GrandPas-Oberto/Thomas and SlowMotion-Udoka AND if Duncan further progresses in his athleic decline, he will refuse whatever extension they might offer.

You certainly don't realize that above a certain threshold, money is not an issue anymore for certain people.
Ginobili has passed that threshold and he is that certain people.

-Basketball is all about winning, not racking up statistics. Ginobili is one of only two men that won at all levels in baskeball history.

[temujin]

Last I checked, only Kobe has a no trade clause.

If we trade Ginobili, it will be to another team that wants his expiring contract so Ginobili doesn't really have a say in the matter.

If he wants to be a little , he can pack up his and head back to Argentina in 2010.

You certainly trade nobody, because you can't.
The Spurs can, in purely theoretical terms, but won't.
That's why they won four les.

[samikeyp]

This is the franchise that traded the Iceman...anything is possible.

Then again some of you believe Ginobili is better so who knows?



Fact of the matter is this....anyone, anyone is tradeable if by doing so you make your franchise better. No one is as big of a Manu fan as me, well except Spurschick. but if trading Manu makes the team better and doesn't cripple the team in the future, I am all for it. I don't want to see it though.

[callo1]

Tim is on the downslope. Manu will never be Manu of 2005 and will likely be making frequent trips to the IR the rest of his career.

Manhimi is one constant injury after another. Mason and Hill are nice players, but they aren't going to pick up any major slack.

Unless the Spurs can pull off some miracle like trading Manu for Igudaga or Danny Granger (which would never happen in a million years), you can consider this thing over.

It's sad, but most NBA fans would kill to have had their teams make the run we did over the last decade.

It's hard to admit it's over and our hearts keep trying to tell us "there's a chance" but I think if most of us are honest with ourselves, we know it's over.

Until TD has his tendonosis issues late this year he looked faster and more athletic than he had in the past 3 years.

I agree, Manu is a big questionmark...same with Ian.

I don't know if it is "over", but if it is (all things come to an end) then it has been one of a ride.

I think TD has 2 more productive (contending) years left IF he gets the support he needs around him.

Only time will tell.