Now that the season is over, and seeing as how Parker fever is at an all time high, I'd like to open up a discussion about his game.
This season, one thing I have been wondering, and wondering, and have no real answer for, is why the he abandoned his floater this season?
Talk about Duncan rubbing off on his little buddy. It was totally Duncanesque how he seemed to totally abandon a solid move, as if it was beneath him.
What is weird is he had the looks for it all season, even in the Mavs series. In the playoffs, he seemed to kind of edge to the baseline under the basket, and flip up kind of a sideways hook.
It's funny because they mention how Rondo's good at that "Tony Parker Floater" during Celtics games, yet I've seen him use more floaters than Parker in 4 celtics games watched all season.
Was the floater issue just me?
In addition to hoping for Parker to make even more improvement in his jumpshot, I'd sure like to see him go back to work on untraditional moves. They are so unblockable, and the number of players using floater-esque moves is a tribute to their efficacy. If Parker can become adept at hitting leaners using the glass, it would make him a threat from entirely new angles and add a devastating new facet to his game.
I didn't see him abandon it, it just looked like it was gone..it looked like it wasn't as effective as we saw in previous years..
I guess I wasn't the only one that noticed it..
Duncan brought some moves back this year, especially the bank shot, so that's encouraging..
I just think teams knew it was his go to move and tried to take that- what came so easy to him- away from him. He just adjusted and scored in so many other ways. I never wondered why he didn't use as much, because he had other ways of scoring. His jumpshot is pretty automatic now.
Parker unleashed the floater a couple times in Game 1 but he did take it out of his repertoire for the most part afterwards. However, I think it was the right move. The Mavs don't have many shotblockers and it's best to take it all the way to the rim.
Overall, I think it's somewhat of an overrated shot. Against shotblockers like D12 or Camby, it's useful. But in regular situations it basically amounts to a lower percentage layup that almost eliminates any chance of getting to the line.
The two shots I'd like to see him add to his repertoire are an Andre Miller or Deron Williams type pull-up 15 footer on the break. That would be the ultimate counter to the current sprint-back-and-protect-the-rim strategy teams use when Parker gets the ball in the open court.
The other one is the elusive set shot three-pointer. He's done a good job of making up for it with the long two but that three-pointer would make life a lot easier for him in the long run.
He's become more efficient as a mid range jump shooter and that has opened up lanes to the basket so my guess is that he doesn't see it so he doesn't go to it.
I agree I'm not a big fan of these floaters, I prefer seeing him going to the rim for the lay-ups, he has no major issues to avoid the blocks. It depends on the opponent but most of the time it's a lower % shoot than the lay ups
I'd like to see Parker add a short mid-range shot where he slides sideways a la Paul and Nash. That sliding also gets those guys a lot of assists when players open up under the basket.
Speaking of Parker, I wonder how much he rolled his eyes when he saw Billups go for six points, six assists and four turnovers and the Nuggets still curbstomp the Mavs. If Parker did that against the Mavs, the Spurs would have lost by about 64.
Damn the Spurs have a horrible set of role players
+100000000000Speaking of Parker, I wonder how much he rolled his eyes when he saw Billups go for six points, six assists and four turnovers and the Nuggets still curbstomp the Mavs. If Parker did that against the Mavs, the Spurs would have lost by about 64.
Damn the Spurs have a horrible set of role players
And i Hope Pop and RC rolled theirs as well and go for a major makeup for the bench
@OT if parker starts shooting the 3 in a consistent basis, He would be damn unstoppable
Our bench is garbage manSpeaking of Parker, I wonder how much he rolled his eyes when he saw Billups go for six points, six assists and four turnovers and the Nuggets still curbstomp the Mavs. If Parker did that against the Mavs, the Spurs would have lost by about 64.
Damn the Spurs have a horrible set of role players, that bench is just FLAT OUT HORRIBLE. I will mention two starters too who are horrible or one is horrible, but I said his name enough (Red head fukk). Finley is a 7th or 8th man at best too, we need some better role players here, period.
This thread reminds me of one of my top 3 Parker shots of all time, it was the floater he hit to win the game against the Mavs a few years ago, where Dirk and Bradley?? I think ran into eachother and fell down. I've been looking all over Youtube for it, but can't find it anywhere
2:15 in this video
Love this image.
If he ever develops both of those, he would be UNGUARDABLE.
If Parker is having no problems getting all the way to the rim against your typical interior defense, why rely solely on the teardrop?
Yep. TP cannot be happy about seeing Billups have an average game and his team still win.Speaking of Parker, I wonder how much he rolled his eyes when he saw Billups go for six points, six assists and four turnovers and the Nuggets still curbstomp the Mavs. If Parker did that against the Mavs, the Spurs would have lost by about 64.
Damn the Spurs have a horrible set of role players
TP had to play all out for us to even have a chance.
the main thing is that the ultimate goal is to be the most efficient player, not necessarily the most complete.
when guys keep saying Dwight Howard is just a dunker, i think what's the problem if no one is able to prevent him to do that.
that the same for TP. He has developped a reliable mid-range J, but only in certain specific spots (after the P n R and dribbling tread water when an opponent gives him many space to prevent a drive to the rim).
so, i prefer Tony keeping what he can do. even if he has proven to be able to add to his repertory.
The pull-up 15 footer on the break would be great. that's for sure
for the 3, i'm not sure tony will be able to ever become a great 3 pts shooter. the distance seems a little too much for him. If he could knowck down the open ones consistently, that should be enough.
Keep doing what you do the best.
but i guess he should also prepare his future, when his quickness could decrease and he'll need others weapons.
Watching the role players for the other teams in the playoffs simply underscores how we've been kidding ourselves about the Spurs role players. My God, how we could use a Birdman or Bass or Landry or....Speaking of Parker, I wonder how much he rolled his eyes when he saw Billups go for six points, six assists and four turnovers and the Nuggets still curbstomp the Mavs. If Parker did that against the Mavs, the Spurs would have lost by about 64.
Damn the Spurs have a horrible set of role players
Finally, the one attribute that role players must offer--hustle and focus--simply wasn't there for the most part compared to the Chicago bench, the Denver bench, the Rockets bench, the Mavs bench, etc.
MasonThe question I have is why the coaches and fans here at Spurstalk kept talking about Mason as the quality player we needed as the last piece of the puzzle.
1. He was meiocre at best on defense, only made to look acceptable when he took Finley off the floor.
2. His ball handling/dribbling was awful (the image that will always remain with me was his stumbling fall down the open lane against the Mavs). Forget the PG experiment. He shouldn't be here long enough to develop a skill that he obviously has no talent for.
3. As a shooter he was inconsistent. That's not acceptable for him in our offense. Forget about his late heroics in a couple of regular season games. He disappeared when the real pressure--the playoffs--came around.
BONNER
1.He improved his defense somewhat is about all I can say. He does hustle most of the time.
2. His offense was inconsistent and hesitant. It doesn't matter if you lead the league in 3pt. percentage if you won't take the shot when open.
3. Rebounding negligible, especially offensive rebounding, but that may be accounted for by the fact that he was put out on the perimeter so much to spread the floor. Can't rebound from 23 feet away.
GOODEN
1. He's a good'en on offense. Bit of a ball hog, even when playing with any of the Big Three. When the ball goes into his hands, it's a black hole where nothing ever comes out.
2. Little D. Not too smart. Might be better next year.
3. Rebounding nothing to write home about.
BOWEN & THOMAS
Gave us all they had left in the tank I guess, but that isn't enough to win minutes on a championship run in the tough Western Conference. Father Time visits us all. They need to retire with honor.
HILL
The Best of our role players because of his upside--but let's not get carried away with dreams of supers om. Everybody loves a kid coming out of the late picks in the draft with no props who makes the team--but he's not EVER gonna be as good as Tony Parker.
UDOKA
The fact that Udoka played his way back into the rotation tells you that our role players aren't up to par with the rest of the West. He's not real bad, just not as good as we need.
It did seem as though Tony "dialed back" his use of the deadly floater this season. However, he was still notorious for getting into the paint and to the rim. I don't ever want to see him lose that aggressiveness.
As for his long distance bombing, I always hold my breath when Tony takes 3-pointers. Many times, yelling at him, "what are your doing taking that shot? That's not in your range." At this point, I could care less if he have develops 3-point range because the Spurs have too many 3-point chuckers on the roster. The last thing I want TP to do now is become passive and start creating even more long rebound opportunities than they do now.
Now, if the Spurs add a couple of other players who can create their own shot, then I'm all for Tony taking those long-distance set shots. I just don't want to see him lose his aggressivenes.
I would rather tp create the 15 pull up jumper in a fast break
it might save him more engery
right now when he is tired his threes are always short
if he can get more help and not have to create everything then he can still work on the three
I wonder if maybe instead he would be happy to see Denver easily dispatch the Mavs even with Billups playing a pedestrian series. It would disabuse the FO from having any thoughts creep into their head that any portion of the current lot of nursing home patients and NBDL rejects could be acceptable for next season.
I think this season we got to see how good the Big 3 really are. If all of them had to sit out, I think the 1996-97 Spurs might beat what was left by 30 points.
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