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You shouldn't thump such a weak chest -- it might cave in.
Substance.
I posted plenty of substance. You replied to none of it.
What's your take on the Larison posts?
Unsurprisingly, no one has addressed this.Who will surrender to us on the battlefield, knowing that we have an official policy that parses torture as not being torture?
The people who are fighting us are very cynical, they probably believe we'll turn them gay or something. They don't look at us as dignified torture or not.
Does the cruelty of our enemies oblige us to be cruel?
We should abandon our own Sabbath, because others do not keep it?
You're the cynic, Iggy. You'd sell your birthright for a mess of pottage.
By promoting torture, you also sell our own soldiers down the river.
Also Iggy, you never answered the question.
Who will surrender to us if we torture?
What kind of bonehead question is that? Countrys have been torturing people for thousands of years. You act like the USA has a policy to pick up randoms just to be cruel to them. We are taking about waterboarding! We are talking about saving lives. Protecting our country from crazy s.
Seriously this is getting ing stupid. Some of you people think the USA is some sort of wicked cruel country just like Obamas wife does.You whinny lil es. Obama will do whatever it takes to get people to talk if he needs information. Bet ur tiny lil nuts on that. As long as you have people who strap bombs to themselves,fly airplanes into people,build gas chambers to kill religious groups you will have countrys like ours to think of ways to get information out of people and some of u lil whinny es will complain about.
This waterboarding is a political issue because people like Pelosi want to make the Republicans look cruel. Her saying she knew nothing about this was a straight up lie. Notice she has no more comments. Take her ass to court and put her in jail. USA will use methods to get information out of people, they should be very thankful its was waterboarding.
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It relates to military custom. If our adversaries on the battlefield know we mistreat prisoners, will they surrender to us or fight to the death?
Wrong. Torture is a political issue because it is illegal, immoral and un-American.
Pardon me if I don't want to can the Cons ution, treaty obligations, US statutes and my personal values because terrorism makes you wet the bed and cry like a baby. Grow up. The world is dangerous.
Your car, your workplace, the old wiring in your house, your swimming pool, your handgun, your prescription drugs, your dinner plate and falling down are more dangerous to you -- by far -- than terrorism will ever be.
Perspective is a beautiful thing. Its amazing to me to see a right winger (not saying its happening here - although I'm almost sure it has) complain about how the swine flu isn't a big deal because the regular flu kills tens of thousands a year and not realize how much they've changed this country over an attack that caused 3 thousand deaths.
enemy combatants.
those who strap bombs to themselves will probably not care either way.
No one is suggesting they do.
That's why we need to not be proactive with seatbelts and aids prevention!
If you're talking about the cons ution, it protects citizens. If you're talking about the geneva conventions, 1. alqueda did not sign it. 2. any type of interrogation would be illegal.
The world is dangerous.
THat's why some people take its flaws a little more serious with pragmatism aswell.
TB killed more than all the southern lynchings of blacks combined. It's amazing how society made the civil rights such a big deal.
About 2/3 of the detainees at Gitmo were not.
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