Tony Parkers trade value

[GOSPURS733]

ill trade him to the thunder just tell them to send durant and westbrook over and its a deal

[stéphane]

I'm as retiscent to trade him as I would be over trading Manu.
Those two guys are the Spurs (not even need to mention Tim).
But let's be realistic, every player has a value. It's just that we won't get what he's worth anyway.

[George Gervin's Afro]

The only way I trade TP is for the number 1 pick in the draft this year. Or for CP3...

[DAF86]

The only way I trade TP is for the number 1 pick in the draft this year. Or for CP3...

And why the would you do that? this year's draft's talent pool is one of the worst in the history of the league.

[ducks]

The only way I trade TP is for the number 1 pick in the draft this year. Or for CP3...

number one pick has proved nothing
cp3 sucked against denver this year
atleast 4 assist at home for him are not his
but he gets credited for them

[George Gervin's Afro]

And why the would you do that? this year's draft's talent pool is one of the worst in the history of the league.

Blake Griffin..that kid is a sure fire number one option.. I said number one, not a lottery pick in this draft. read before you post.

[sexinthatsx]

Blake Griffin..that kid is a sure fire number one option.. I said number one, not a lottery pick in this draft. read before you post.

That's awesome, trade a previous finals MVP for a guy named blake griffin who hasn't played one NBA game in his life. The potential of blake griffin's game in the NBA does NOT outweigh parker's PROVEN talent in the NBA.

Plus, the only reason all you guys are so set on trading parker for a big is because throughout the spurs history, we have proven that the "twin towers" is a successful form in building a championship caliber team. If/when duncan retires, there's no way the spurs will be comfortable building a team around a superstar PG, they simply aren't used to it.

[George Gervin's Afro]

That's awesome, trade a previous finals MVP for a guy named blake griffin who hasn't played one NBA game in his life. The potential of blake griffin's game in the NBA does NOT outweigh parker's PROVEN talent in the NBA.

Plus, the only reason all you guys are so set on trading parker for a big is because throughout the spurs history, we have proven that the "twin towers" is a successful form in building a championship caliber team. If/when duncan retires, there's no way the spurs will be comfortable building a team around a superstar PG, they simply aren't used to it.

so when tim does retire what are going to use to build around a 30 yr old point guard?

[FromWayDowntown]

Tony Parker's trade value (in real terms) is seriously limited by the fact that he's grossly underpaid to market.

It's nearly impossible to get talent-for-talent in a deal involving Parker.

[DAF86]

Blake Griffin..that kid is a sure fire number one option.. I said number one, not a lottery pick in this draft. read before you post.

I know you said number one pick, but is really stupid to trade a proven all-star in his prime for a rookie. The only way this could make sense is if the Spurs were in rebuilding mode and the Rookie was a Lebron or Shaq kind of rookie (when you had no doubt you were getting a future superstar)

[George Gervin's Afro]

I know you said number one pick, but is really stupid to trade a proven all-star in his prime for a rookie. The only way this could make sense is if the Spurs were in rebuilding mode and the Rookie was a Lebron or Shaq kind of rookie (when you had no doubt you were getting a future superstar)

I wouldn't trade Parker for just anyone. I believe that Griffin is a perennial 20 10 guy who you could build around. Anyway it will never happen and I would be pissed if the Spurs traded Parker for anything less than a Griffin..

[chreph]

so when tim does retire what are going to use to build around a 30 yr old point guard?

I know they didn't win any 'ships, but NJ & Phoenix seemed to do okay with it

[twilo73]

I also believe that Parker will leave as soon as his contract is over... and more importantly the problem we had was not lossing Manu it is that we had no one worth playing other than Parker and Duncan. We have to have the worst group of scrubs ever assembled in the NBA.

So I would trade Parker... but I would package him with expiring contracts not for a superstar replacement but rather for 2 or 3 high quality players that can play along side Ducan and Manu next year.

Some ideas:

NJ: Harris and Lopez
Raptors: Calderon and Marion/Bosh
Bobcats: Augustin, Diaw and Wallace
Grizzlies: Gasol, Gay and Conley
Blazers: several players

Not all are doable, but you catch my drift.

[DAF86]

I know they didn't win any 'ships, but NJ & Phoenix seemed to do okay with it

Nash and Parker are totally different players, Nash is more of a playmaker with great passing and shooting skills, those kind of skills have little to do with age, while Tony is more of a score first PG with great slashing abilities and speed, those do relate more with age.

[Xylus]

You guys need Boris Diaw. That guy would be such a perfect fit for San Antonio, other than the occasionally lazy at ude. I think Pop could whip him into shape.

As much as Diaw frustrated me, he was without a doubt, a playoff performer.

[Mel_13]

Tony Parker's trade value (in real terms) is seriously limited by the fact that he's grossly underpaid to market.

It's nearly impossible to get talent-for-talent in a deal involving Parker.

Very true, I can't see any one-for-one trade for a similar-sized contract that would not be immediately rejected by one or both teams.

But what if Portland called? What if they said: We're interested in Parker and we'll consider any proposal that doesn't include Roy, Aldridge, or Oden. Go down our roster and suggest a deal:

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...es/blazers.jsp

In addition, we have a late first rounder and 4 second rounders that are on the table.

We also have a trade exception big enough to take Bonner off your hands.

And, of course, we'll kick in enough cash for you to buy another draft pick from some other team.

Do the Spurs take that call?

[Brazil]

You guys need Boris Diaw. That guy would be such a perfect fit for San Antonio, other than the occasionally lazy at ude. I think Pop could whip him into shape.

As much as Diaw frustrated me, he was without a doubt, a playoff performer.

[DPG21920]

Very true, I can't see any one-for-one trade for a similar-sized contract that would not be immediately rejected by one or both teams.

But what if Portland called? What if they said: We're interested in Parker and we'll consider any proposal that doesn't include Roy, Aldridge, or Oden. Go down our roster and suggest a deal:

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...es/blazers.jsp

In addition, we have a late first rounder and 4 second rounders that are on the table.

We also have a trade exception big enough to take Bonner off your hands.

And, of course, we'll kick in enough cash for you to buy another draft pick from some other team.

Do the Spurs take that call?

no. The Spurs are in win now mode, not build for the future mode. Losing TP (arguably the Spurs best player now all things considered) and not getting any superstar is the worst move ever.

Not to mention the extreme lack of depth at pg the Spurs are already facing. That would be a disaster.

[DPG21920]

This logic is extremely flawed.

[chreph]

Nash and Parker are totally different players, Nash is more of a playmaker with great passing and shooting skills, those kind of skills had little to do with age, while Tony is more of a score first PG with great slashing abilities and speed, those do relate more with age.

True... but I don't discount Parker's passing abilities until the Spurs have either changed their inside-out system or have more than 1 athletic guy on the roster. It's easier to "make plays" when you're on the court with a young RJ/K-Mart or Amare/Matrix than it is a Bonner/Old Finley. I think Parker will do just fine (maybe not avg 22/9) when you gets to 30. He's already got a better jumpshot than Jason Kidd ever had.

As for all the people who swear Parker's going to leave in 3 years, if he's that deadset on it, why would he & Eva have built that crazy mansion they have here? I'd have to imagine that mo'fo would probably be pretty hard to sell in this city unless they are willing to take below market value.

[portnoy1]

I also believe that Parker will leave as soon as his contract is over... and more importantly the problem we had was not lossing Manu it is that we had no one worth playing other than Parker and Duncan. We have to have the worst group of scrubs ever assembled in the NBA.

So I would trade Parker... but I would package him with expiring contracts not for a superstar replacement but rather for 2 or 3 high quality players that can play along side Ducan and Manu next year.

Some ideas:

NJ: Harris and Lopez
Raptors: Calderon and Marion/Bosh
Bobcats: Augustin, Diaw and Wallace
Grizzlies: Gasol, Gay and Conley
Blazers: several players

Not all are doable, but you catch my drift.

That right there is the first parker trade post that actually makes sense.
Trade Parker/Gooden for Calderon / Bargnani / mensah bonsuh
The numbers add up. The spurs would get a point guard who can effeciently run an offense and passes first. they also get a 7 footer who can shoot the 3 and post up occasionally and last they get a high flying young guy who can get rebounds/block shots / DUNK.

[Xylus]

Boris Diaw is one of the most talented players I've ever seen.

He can pass really well, he can rebound, he can defend multiple positions (he guarded Tony Parker in 2008!), he can hit the midrange jumper, he can shoot the 3-ball, he can post up, he can play point guard, he can play center, he can play power forward... Not a whole lot the man can't do.

Unfortunately, he's soft.

[rascal]

I am usually all for trades but trading Parker now would not be a smart move. The spurs should build around Duncan and Parker. They already have a top five big and a top 5 pg.

Manu is the one who needs to go to open up some salary for a reliable star. I would trade Manu in a package for a player like Caron Butler.

[Brazil]

Boris Diaw is one of the most talented players I've ever seen.

He can pass really well, he can rebound, he can defend multiple positions (he guarded Tony Parker in 2008!), he can hit the midrange jumper, he can shoot the 3-ball, he can post up, he can play point guard, he can play center, he can play power forward... Not a whole lot the man can't do.

Unfortunately, he's soft.

I think his soft reputation is linked to the fact he is first a team player and not an egomaniac NBA player but once again I'm quite biased cauz I like him a lot. Anyway his spirit would be just perfect for this spurs team he would give a lot of flexibility for Pop systems.

[DPG21920]

That right there is the first parker trade post that actually makes sense.
Trade Parker/Gooden for Calderon / Bargnani / mensah bonsuh
The numbers add up. The spurs would get a point guard who can effeciently run an offense and passes first. they also get a 7 footer who can shoot the 3 and post up occasionally and last they get a high flying young guy who can get rebounds/block shots / DUNK.

That would be a very bad trade. I think Bargnani could help the Spurs for sure, but Calderon for Parker would be very bad. Spurs need a scoring pg and someone who can break down defenses.

Not to mention Pops can be had if the Spurs want him for free (meaning you do not have to trade Parker to get him). Calderon is a terrible defender and he would be wildly ineffective in the Spurs system if you are expecting TP production from him.