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yeah but no
If I could get O.J. Mayo, Marc Gasol and Rudy Gay I might just pull the trigger. You get a future superstar in Mayo, a legit SF in Gay and a solid center to put beside Duncan. There might have to be another team involved to make the salaries work and to add a player or two back to Memphis. After that we could release Oberto and Bowen to free up some salary to sign Jarrett Jack away from Indiana.
Jack/Hill/Ginobili
Mayo/Ginobili/Mason
Gay/Bowen(resigned for minimum)/Finley
Duncan/Bonner/Gist?
Gasol/Thomas/Mahinmi
I think that team could win now and win going forwards if we build around Mayo for the future. But I am skeptical whether or not Memphis would be willing to part with all three to get Parker.
yeah but no
That would be sick.
There is no way Memphis would do this. They are rebuilding and TP is not going to elevate them to a contender if you give those 3 away. If the Spurs think it is better to build around Mayo, why wouldn't Memphis?
The only teams that the Spurs big 3 helps (for trading purposes) are teams on the cusp of being contenders.
With the exception of TP who you could build around to a certain degree, but even then it would take a situation where you get a top 5 pick in a deep draft class along with talent in order for it to make any sense. Trading TP is not a realistic option imo, but if you got a a ridiculous offer, then from a business standpoint, everyone is on the table.
Not to take this thread in a different direction, but who do you purpose the Spurs get for Ginobili at that time?
It was a double-edged sword signing Ginobili to that good of a contract. Spurs could never get an asset that produces at that level for that amount of money, so why get bent over in a trade?
a guy that would have put up 15 points up a night
and could play more then 25 minutes a night
and a guy that could make free throws
you take manu free throws out the last 4 minutes a ball game
he would average around 12- maybe 14 points a game
spurs now have players that could make late free throws
Unlike some wayward Spurs fans, I don't see Tony just up and leaving just because. The Spurs are a great organization and have strived to win every year not like other organizations (Clippers, Grizzlies, etc.). This is the first time the Spurs have lost in the first round since 99-00. Why would he want to leave that type of winning atmosphere? This isn't even taking into account that the Spurs are a close knit group and usually don't want to leave because of Pop.
So reiterating what I already said, there is no need to jump off a mountain and try to trade everyone including your best player because you think they may leave. The FO has time, the players, as well as the fans, just have to be patient and see what they do this offseason.
they are going to lock up tp longterm
does not mean they are going to build just around tp
spurs are built around the big three now
hopefully spurs can get 2 others to sign longterm deals around tp
if not after duncan and manu retire
then you consider trading tp for 2-3 young proven superstars
Name me one person that puts up Manu's numbers (efficiency, per minute...) at the same price as Manu on team that would need Manu that would have logically been willing to trade.
LOL @ Parker for Gay, Mayo and Gasol!
You are probably right. I was using it more as a guideline on exactly what it would take to part with Parker. Something like this is about as close as it is going to get.
Yes, that I agree with. It would take an absurd offer to part with TP, Manu or TD.
From which side? Memphis or SA? As a Grizz fan I would have very mixed emotions about this trade, but as a Spurs fan I would be pretty damn optimistic.
Its highway robbery.
Hey...one good Gasol robbery deserves another.
The reason this is a good trade is because Duncan has someone behind him ( Bargnani ) to block shots and help out on the boards. On offense Duncan can get touches in the paint while Bargnani is at the 3pt line, when Duncan goes to the bench Bargnani can get on the block.
Also Mensah Bonsuh- is an athletic young player. He can block shots and get rebounds. And then the main piece of the trade Calderon will run a solid offense. He will make sure everyone gets touches. He is going to run Pic n rolls with Duncan/Bargnani and he will run plays for shooters Finley/Mason jr. to come off screens. He also will get the younger players
Mensah-bonsuh / Gist out in transition for dunks. Calderon is not nearly as good a defender as parker, but He is a better point guard. Yeah I know parker can score 22 and 6ast a game but he works to hard for it. Calderon understands how to properly use other players to make his job easier. He also thinks pass first and gets his points within the offense like a real point guard is suppose to.
I'd trade Parker for:
Yao, Lebron, Kobe, Dwight Howard, DWade, CP3, Dirk, Bosh, Brandon Roy, Pau Gasol....
Possibly:
Durant, Rudy Gay, Al Jefferson
Trade him for someone who can duuuuuunk!
we don't WANT to trade him, but you have to be realistic and sober when you're trying to build a team. and sometimes it means trading a player with high value for a piece you need to get to the top level.
So no defense and that team could score like 70 ppg.
Seriously, take a look at the Cavs, the Lakers, the Rockets, the Nuggets, the Celtics...
Finley
Mensah- bonsuh
Gist never played 1 NBA game
Bowen is old.
Mason was awful in playoffs.
You understand that there is absolutely no chance that the Spurs trade Parker.
And imagine they trade him to Toronto and then Toronto make a deal with the Celtics, the Lakers or the Cavs.
Then what ?
"Championship 5 baby" against a line-up of TP + Kobe + Pau + Bynum + Odom... (or TP + Allen + Pierce + KG...)
Greaaaaat idea !!!
You would have to think about Parker for Paul? Chris Paul is 24 tommorow. Parker is 27 later this month. CP3 is already the more talented of the 2 and is not even close to his prime yet.
+1
and i'm saying that even though i think he's a
Yeah, because New Orleans really really want to trade CP3 !
And the Lakers want to trade Kobe.
And the Spurs want to trade Duncan.
And the Cavs want to trade Lebron.
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