DO you think Manu or Tony could make it into the list of the 50 greatest ever NBA players? Certainly there are some on the list who have never even won a NBA ring, much less thrree as both guys have. Or have Tony and Manu played too few years to merit consideration?
Naturally, if one or both make the list, they'd have to bump off one or two of the guys currently on the list and it would be interesting to know your choices.
on another board, we voted for the top 100 players and none of them made it
I think, at least manu deserves to be in the top100 basketball player list but maybe not in the top 100 nba players list...tony has a chance to become a top50 player, but only if he gets to the finals without timmy next to him.
If it is 50 greatest NBA players no, but if it is 50 greatest basketball players then Manu should be in it.
I concur. Manu's achievements outside the of the NBA plus his NBA les are hard to match. I think Tony needs a few more years before we can make any judgement.
No and No. Not even that close.
No but they surely make the top 100 greatest NBA players list
not even top 100
ok. then give me 100 NBA players greater than those 2 lads
in no particular order
1. Michael Jordan
2. Wilt Chamberlain
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Earvin 'Magic' Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Bill Russell
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Oscar Robertson
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Tim Duncan
11. Jerry West
12. Julius Erving
13. Moses Malone
14. Elgin Baylor
15. Bob Pet
16. John Havlicek
17. Karl Malone
18. George Mikan
19. David Robinson
20. Isiah Thomas
21. Charles Barkley
22. John Stockton
23. Bob Cousy
24. Kobe Bryant
25. Rick Barry
26. Scottie Pippen
27. Clyde Drexler
28. Gary Payton
29. Willis Reed
30. Patrick Ewing
31. Allen Iverson
32. Walt Frazier
33. Elvin Hayes
34. George Gervin
35. Jason Kidd
36. Dave Cowens
37. Kevin Garnett
38. Bob McAdoo
39. Nate Thurmond
40. Wes Unseld
41. Kevin McHale
42. Dolph Schayes
43. Dominique Wilkins
44. Bill Walton
45. Sam Jones
46. Kevin Johnson
47. Dennis Rodman
48. Dirk Nowitzki
49. Steve Nash
50. Billy Cunningham
51. Nate 'Tiny' Archibald
52. 'Pistol' Pete Maravich
53. Tracy McGrady
54. Hal Greer
55. Jerry Lucas
56. Robert Parish
57. Earl 'the Pearl' Monroe
58. Bernard King
59. Artis Gilmore
60. Alex English
61. James Worthy
62. Joe Dumars
63. Bill Sharman
64. Reggie Miller
65. Paul Arizin
66. Sidney Moncrief
67. Dave DeBusschere
68. Dave Bing
69. David Thompson
70. Lenny Wilkens
71. Adrian Dantley
72. Bob Lanier
73. Neil Johntson
74. Walt Bellamy
75. Vince Carter
76. Spencer Haywood
77. Ray Allen
78. Dennis Johnson
79. Bill lambi
80. Dikembe Mutombo
81. Connie Hawkins
82. Chris Webber
83. Chris Mullin
84. Grant Hill
85. Mitch Richmond
86. Dan Issel
87. 'Jumpin' Joe Fulks
88. Alonzo Mourning
89. Shawn Kemp
90. Mark Price
91. Anfernee 'Penny' Hardaway
92. Tommy Heinsohn
93. George McGinnis
94. Tim Hardaway
95. Mel Daniels
96. Bob Davies
97. Tom Chambers
98. Maurice Cheeks
99. Glen Rice
100. Mark Aguirre
Glen Rice
Larry Johnson
Bill Laimbeer
here's a list i found in another forum, ther's maybe 2 or 3 mistakes in this list so i added the last 3.
As much as I love both of them, neither of them belongs anywhere near a top 50 list. Give Parker several more years of great play and we might revisit for him. If you remove the NBA-only restriction, Manu's easily top 25.
Manu top 25? I don't think so. Tim should be on the list, as for tony he also should be on the list, but its too early to say, we need some more years.
The list depends on who listed it. You can add Tony to the list of your own.
I'm sure some guys on this list will be replaced by Lebron James and Kevin Durant in the very near future.
Pssst. They're never going to actually update the top 50 list. It was a top 50 list because it was the 50th anniversary of the NBA. They'll just wait until the 75th anniversary and add 25 new players. To remove anyone would be disrespectful to a player that is most likely in the HOF.
Nice list but IMHO Manu and TP individual and collective achievements in this league put them ahead of players like Tim Hardaway, Larry Johnson, Glen Rice, Mark Price, Mitch Richmond, C. Webber......
Tony has a chance. He's still really young and has accomplished a lot already individually in the NBA. Manu on the other hand probably has no shot in the NBA. There's many more players that have a lot more individual accomplishments in the NBA than he does. Not saying this is fair but Manu really hasn't accomplished a lot individually in the NBA other than helping this team win and getting the 6MOY award which I still think is a stupid award. He was lucky to have been a one time AS in the NBA (heck even Finley has been an AS more than once). Now as far as his international career goes I think not too long ago he was one of the top 50 on the list as far as international players go.
Every single one of the Top 50 who is already eligible for the Hall of Fame is in. I think at this point, we're waiting mostly on Shaq to retire to have the whole group of them in.
And your larger premise is exactly right. The Top 50 list will never be revised, other than by fans in internet forums.
Wait. Are people actually trying to argue that Manu is one of the 50 greatest players of all time?
Holy I'm crying.
What are you saying here? that you find funny that people don't consider him one of the greatest 50 basketball players of all-time, or that there's people that think he could be?Wait. Are people actually trying to argue that Manu is one of the 50 greatest players of all time?
Holy I'm crying.
If you remove the NBA only restriction, yes he is. He's one of the few players to win all the biggest events in basketball while beign a major part of his teams (MVP of every tournament he won, except for the NBA where he came one vote short of getting finals MVP).
maybe by the end of his career depending on what he accomplishes could tony make it, but manu wouldn't even get close
I do not consider for instance that AI is > Manu or TP.
I haven't seen anyone try to make that case anywhere in this thread, aside from the OP asking the question.Wait. Are people actually trying to argue that Manu is one of the 50 greatest players of all time?
Holy I'm crying.
Manu will obviously never come close from an NBA-only perspective. TP could get close, but we'd have to win another le, since I'm assuming he would be our #1 option. It's obviously a really tough list though, so I don't expect him to make it.
We've been fortunate to have a guy that will be in the top 10 when it's all set and done though.
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