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Are you trying to compare a forearm on the back to an elbow in the face?
Ron never went "over the top" of Kobe. They were tangled up and pushing each other. Ron never went over the top.
Are you trying to compare a forearm on the back to an elbow in the face?
at the worst a foul on kobe, but it looked like they called kobe having position on the rebound. the refs have been terrible. they let things get out of hand by letting shoving and pushing go around since game in the paint allowing the rockets to get away with anything. all this talk of retaliation will probably lead to touch fouls in game 3except how can you call a foul on Artest? if the refs saw ANY fouls commited by Artest then they MUST be able to see Kobe throwing the elbow. this is just so rediculous that im not even mad at it anymore because every rockets fan knows we are not heading home 2 - 0. Stern will make sure this thing stays compe ive
I dont think anyone here has actually played any basketball... what a bunch of whiney little babies.
"Unnatural" swing by Kobe? Most probably. But no one is talking about Artest trying to take Kobe's head off on the same play.
The difference is Kobe swung that elbow obviously not caring where it landed.Even Kenny and Chuck say that's just a foul.
And look at Artest's elbow to Kobe's neck before he got his...that's not a clean play either. Play rough, then accept the roughness.
watch it.. it wasnt an elbow to the face...it was a box out type elbow to the upper chest and both guys were jockying for position and ron was all over kobes back. I am not denying it was a hard foul...it was... but it was not an intentionl flagrant. Geeeeez... what a bunch of wimps
Actually it looked like it got the chest, not the throat.
now artest whining like a baby in the post game...
PUSSY
yeah.,...there was no forearm to the back of kobes neck prior to the elbow either was there?
That's just a playoff foul.
watch the clip boys.... whos arm and elbow is on whos shoulder, neck and facial area as the shot goes up? hmmmmmmmmmm
Kobe's elbow just can't catch a break. Bibby's nose and Artest's throat have it out for him.
Yea but it is a foul right? Ron Artest got the ing foul and he went to talk to the officials. They woulnd't do anything so he let kobe know it.
lol what position Kobe got? Artest was pushing Kobe way out of position until Kobe deck him in the throat
Totally agree... if artest doesnt go beserk... its a moot point.
I am so glad he did though... woke the Lakers up!
at Ron Artest crying like a in the post-game....
"We're gonna WIN Fair and Square and LOSE fair and square.....we're NOT DIRTY.... KOBE'S HITTING ME......KOBE IS HITTING ME!!!!!!!!"
Are Piston fans delusional now? That was clearly an intentional elbow to send a message, just like when he did it to Battier in game 1. Kobe needs to get himself hyped, he has to do those things.
It was clearly a foul on Kobe and a reckless elbow and he has a history of doing that. Wasn't the most ridiculous foul, but it was way more serious than yall are giving credit for.
you could have called a foul on either guy... the guy with position usually (not always correct) gets the call. Simple as that
True, I agree that elbow was a foul on Kobe.
But if you look at Artest before the Kobe elbow, every second of that play was a foul on Artest. Look at the play...Artest starts with two hands on Kobe's head pushing him down. Then switches to a forearm to the neck. All of that is a foul.
1) Refs should have called the foul on Artest
2) Refs should have called a flagrant or a technical on Kobe for the retaliation.
But, it's playoff basketball and overall was a pretty good game.
Yeah, it's a foul. So why are people acting like he should be suspended?
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